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Why does this outlet threatens different country everyday? Is this the China some people are rooting to replace the US? The tone makes China sound like a villain.
Quoting mindscream
Why does this outlet threatens different country everyday? Is this the China some people are rooting to replace the US? The tone makes China sound like a villain.
It's a sign of weakness (and guilt). Don't think they get it. Intimidation and bullying may work within their own ranks, but the rest of world just finds it repugnant and offensive. China is going to have some serious problems with no markets to sell to. The rest of us will get by just fine without them.

The lack of markets willing to import from China won't be driven by the governments of existing trading partners (although govt's will facilitate the shift in global trade), it will be driven by consumers, who are now 100% unwilling to purchase the endless string of low quality high risk crap they produce.
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Quoting Jade Gate
{quote}Intimidation and bullying may work within their own ranks, but the rest of world just finds it repugnant and offensive.
You sure about that？Because American airlines and hotels changed the name of "Taiwan" to "Chinese Taipei" under CCP pressure.

Quoting Jade Gate
{quote}it will be driven by consumers, who are now 100% unwilling to purchase the endless string of low quality high risk crap they produce
Consumers never have a say in these matter，the "don't buy made in China products" rhetoric has been around for decades but people still keep buying Chinese goods.
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Quoting Jade Gate
{quote} It's a sign of weakness (and guilt). it will be driven by consumers, who are now 100% unwilling to purchase...
what is the basis for that statement. I have not seen people unwilling to buy iphones made in China. or people unwilling to do shopping in Walmart as Chinese suppliers make 70% of Walmart's merchandise
Quoting Jade Gate
{quote} It's a sign of weakness (and guilt). Don't think they get it. Intimidation and bullying may work within their own ranks, but the rest of world just finds it repugnant and offensive. China is going to have some serious problems with no markets to sell to. The rest of us will get by just fine without them. The lack of markets willing to import from China won't be driven by the governments of existing trading partners (although govt's will facilitate the shift in global trade), it will be driven by consumers, who are now 100% unwilling to purchase...
I am not sure that you are aware of the situation. It wasn't China who is bullying everyone for decades. It wasn't them who started wars with lies like "they have chemical weapons". It wasn't them who planned, supported and even directly supported many coup d'etats ending with pain in many countries.

End if come to the buyers, you are totally dreaming. China has already passed that level that they depend on markets to sell. They need it as much as others need them to buy their products. They are both exporter and importer. And anymore not all the stuff they sell is that low quality. US is only raising voice because it started hurting their some important advantages.

Just take the case of 5G. They claim China can use it to spy. Heeyy, the US was already doing it for ages and is still doing it. They were even spying on their allies including German Chancellery.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/nsa-tapped-german-chancellery-decades-wikileaks-claims-merkel

And anyway it is not possible to move those supply chains and production from China in even a decade if you have all the means to do it. I would suggest you to be realistic if you want to succeed against China.
In line with a shift in policy which perhaps attacks CCP but not China as a whole then we might be getting somewhere. USA is too used to picking on countries (USSR, Russia, Iran, North Korea and so on) rather than political groups within countries. In turn other countries might be encouraged to hate USA rather than ideas being promoted by leaders with slim majorities. I would like to see a return to debate on political views and not on this rubbish here about countries as though a country thinks and speaks with one voice. (Fox News refers to The Left as though that is one brain, one mouth and one heart - it is not).

Leadership for global statesmanship has moved well beyond US current capacity. Opportunities are plentiful for rewarding compromise just as flowing from the Declaration of Independence. CCP has itself to blame for creating Taiwan back in the 1940s through treachery, corruption and lies and it would be good to remind CCP of this background in any debate on where we go from here and the compromises necessary to provide a solid footing for Taiwan and for the world to accept. But other major countries also need to recocgnise the opportunities for compromise and the tone/attitudes required for compromise a la Obama style.

There is no future in a Bourne supermacy attitude by either USA admins or CCP. Recognising at least COVID 19 as a global issue with related co-operations needed we could begin to move ahead rather than backwards at great speed.
Quoting Namli
{quote} I am not sure that you are aware of the situation. It wasn't China who is bullying everyone for decades. It wasn't them who started wars with lies like "they have chemical weapons". It wasn't them who planned, supported and even directly supported many coup d'etats ending with pain in many countries. End if come to the buyers, you are totally dreaming. China has already passed that level that they depend on markets to sell. They need it as much as others need them to buy their products. They are both exporter and importer. And...
Thank you for this post. Each country is a mix of saint and sinner and its really intelligent to have a debate on the richness of the mix.
The bottom line is that China has a relatively undeveloped domestic marker of 1.3 b people.
the US an over developed/over inancialised dometic market of 330m.
China now has the fundamental industrial and technological momentum to develop this domestic market.
Yes, the US has a hegemony over the global financial system on which China has developed that momentum by becoming the low cost manufacturing hub of the world. But it is also fast catching the US as the technological innovation hub. And thats the driver of power in the 21st century as in others.
Im not a Chinaphile. CCP is a system I abhor. But that not the purpose of an analyst. Its to nail reality & truth.
And call it like it is.
Im reminded of a cultural analogy...
Pal of mine used to say good analysis is like poetry.. few understand it and everybody fkucing hates it.


Just a Thought#
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I think Apple asked the Chinese government to ensure no more than 8 workers sharing a dormitory room if they are working on the Iphone components.

At least they are being fed.

Food for thought?
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Quoting smikester
I think Apple asked the Chinese government to ensure no more than 8 workers sharing a dormitory room if they are working on the Iphone components. At least they are being fed. Food for thought?
Preposterous.
You are suggesting that other Chinese workers are NOT being fed.
That Apple is setting the standards in CV19 return to work practices in China?
(Check the Chinese record on containing and managing this virus compared to US)
Working for Apple is guaranteeing an otherwise starving Chinese population from famine?

"Food for Thought"????
FFS.. Enough now. Time to subscribe to the Disney Channel and Fox News. Man.
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Communists cannot let things get too free inside China. They must maintain absolute control over the masses. It is the source of their power and their greatest weakness. Slave labor economies can't allow their workers to get paid too much. Competing with other nations requires slave labor in communist countries like China.
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} (Check the Chinese record on containing and managing this virus compared to US)
FACT! China is the biggest liar on earth. Anyone who believes communist propaganda regarding Chinas record on containing and managing this virus is gullible. China apologists included!
Quoting mindscream
Why does this outlet threatens different country everyday? Is this the China some people are rooting to replace the US? The tone makes China sound like a villain.
China is a villian. That has become clear on the virus but it is their nature. The terms of a contract do not mean the same thing to them as others. To them they are guidelines to be ignored or followed loosely. Their currency manipulation is well known. Their theft of intellectual property is well known. Where are they not villians?
Quoting Maxthetrader
{quote} FACT! China is the biggest liar on earth. Anyone who believes communist propaganda regarding Chinas record on containing and managing this virus is gullible. China apologists included!
Folk need to know whos advice they are reading ..
On March 23rd @Max-the-Trader wrote..
I'm so proud to be an American farmer! Soon all the food processors will be SHUT DOWN due to this virus. Nobody can go to work. No food for the city slickers and the rest of the world. But our six chest type freezers are jam packed full of food just for us farmers. The rest of the world is damned to starvation. We are armed to the teeth too and ready.


You represent values everything American Founding Fathers and all decent folk American and others around the world dispise.
You are one sick puppy.
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