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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited Nov 26, 2024 9:17am Sep 1, 2016 12:08pm | Edited Nov 26, 2024 9:17am
Is { personal information deleted by staff, per request } a real trader or just another snakeoil salesman
  • #2
  • Sep 2, 2016 12:07pm Sep 2, 2016 12:07pm
I have been a subscriber to his service, and have undertaken his intensive training course, reason being so, after being succesful at supply and demand trading, I wanted to understand more the fundamentals behind it all.

One thing I will point out, it is NOT for the faint hearted, it is very in depth, quite complicated if your new, and very intensive. The information I learned during the course is priceless to me and in no way is Jarratt a scammer, he knows his stuff, and he is very successful trading.

So no, Jarrat is as far from a snakeoil salesman as you can get, it's not cheap no, but that's because it's serious info for serious traders who want to trade as a "business" not the usual I want to get rich quick nonsense that most of FF is full of.
  • #3
  • Edited 12:04pm Sep 3, 2016 7:03am | Edited 12:04pm
It depends on what you are looking for at the end of the day. Jarratt focuses his efforts on the fundamental approach to trading rather than a technical approach. His focus is on central bank monetary policy, which can take a while to get your head around.

If you are looking for a more technical based training course then i would say Jarratt is not your man, but if you want to learn about the fundamental side of trading then he will be able to help you understand that.

Jarratt's course is probably 90% fundamental and 10% technical.

Short time price movements (intraday) are more technical, but the longer term trends are driven by fundamentals. So if you want to stay in a trade for a few weeks rather than a few hours then you need to focus more on the fundamental side. If you want to day trade then you need to focus on the technical side.
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  • #4
  • Sep 3, 2016 7:23am Sep 3, 2016 7:23am
Quoting RobTaylor
It depends on what you are looking for at the end of the day. Jarratt focuses his efforts on the fundamental approach to trading rather than a technical approach. His focus is on central bank monetary policy, which can take a while to get your head around. If you are looking for a more technical based training course then i would say Jarratt is not your man, but if you want to learn about the fundamental side of trading then he will be able to help you understand that. Jarratt's course is probably 90% fundamental and 10% technical, where my training...
Interesting, how do you apply fundamentals to short term trading, or do you just simply trade pairs which are being fundamentally driven, but have no impacting news released close by and take the technicals?
  • #5
  • Sep 3, 2016 7:28am Sep 3, 2016 7:28am
Jarratt is not a scammer. But the Rob Taylor guy posting above is. Keep your eyes open and your wallet closed.
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  • #7
  • Edited Nov 26, 2024 9:17am Sep 3, 2016 7:49am | Edited Nov 26, 2024 9:17am
Quoting sahamv
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Those are the kind of questions which you need to get out of your head.

Trading is a business, not a set salary of how much someone can earn. You cannot take something like what { personal information deleted by staff, per request } teaches turn round and say yes you can make x amount a year.

It is not a system, it is the way firms and pros trade, there is no mechanical to it, it's all about research news listening and sentiment, not sell at a down arrow and buy at an up arrow cráp.
  • #8
  • Sep 3, 2016 8:08am Sep 3, 2016 8:08am
Quoting deankenny21
{quote} Those are the kind of questions which you need to get out of your head. Trading is a business, not a set salary of how much someone can earn. You cannot take something like what Jarratt teaches turn round and say yes you can make x amount a year. It is not a system, it is the way firms and pros trade, there is no mechanical to it, it's all about research news listening and sentiment, not sell at a down arrow and buy at an up arrow crp.
relax, it's not unsincere query, if you don't agree then that's fine, no need to use offensive words. some people use down/up arrow and still profitable.
  • #9
  • Sep 3, 2016 8:16am Sep 3, 2016 8:16am
Quoting sahamv
{quote} some people use down/up arrow and still profitable.
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  • #10
  • Sep 3, 2016 10:50am Sep 3, 2016 10:50am
Quoting GubyIQ
Jarratt is not a scammer. But the Rob Taylor guy posting above is. Keep your eyes open and your wallet closed.
I suggest you remove that comment, or i will be taking legal action against you for defamation of character.
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  • #11
  • Sep 3, 2016 11:00am Sep 3, 2016 11:00am
Quoting deankenny21
{quote} Interesting, how do you apply fundamentals to short term trading, or do you just simply trade pairs which are being fundamentally driven, but have no impacting news released close by and take the technicals?
Hi Dean. I don't apply fundamentals to short term trading, but you need to be aware of the fundamentals that are driving price, to make sure you do not get wrong sided on a trade based on a technical set up. For example you would not want to be shorting UJ or GJ at anytime in the last week, as they are fundamentally undervalued. We are also seeing a shift from Yen safe haven flows into US dollar, so its a bad trade to take on a technical basis.
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  • #12
  • Sep 3, 2016 11:15am Sep 3, 2016 11:15am
Quoting RobTaylor
{quote} I suggest you remove that comment, or i will be taking legal action against you for defamation of character.
You are a scammer because you make unsubstantiated profitability claims on your site(s) in order to take large amounts of money from unsuspecting gullible people.
I'll retract what I said and issue a public apology if you provide at least 1 year of MYfxbook verified track-record showcasing the performance you imply on your site(s). I and the FCA would also like to see the authorization you have for offering managed accounts.
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  • #13
  • Sep 3, 2016 11:38am Sep 3, 2016 11:38am
I do not have to provide anything to you or anyone else. The trading statements on my site are all genuine statements, and anyone that wishes to take my course can do their own due diligence before they part with any money. If they are not happy with what i provide then they are welcome to look elsewhere.

People like you are what is wrong with this site, attacking people for no reason to get your kicks. If you are such a big shot reply to my private message with your contact details and we can sort this issue out.
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  • #14
  • Sep 3, 2016 11:45am Sep 3, 2016 11:45am
You advertised your stuff on this thread so I did due diligence, the results came in as: 100% scammer. If you were a real professional, you would have answered properly to my previous post.
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  • #15
  • Sep 3, 2016 12:03pm Sep 3, 2016 12:03pm
You did your due diligence did you. You visited my site and saw my price and thought "oh shit i cant afford that", ill call him a scammer, that will piss him off. Well it did piss me off, so well done to you.

Real people who really want to learn how to trade, and have the money to pay someone like me will take a lot more time to find out who i am and what i do before they pass judgement.

I have removed my reference to my course from this thread as a token of good will, because it obviously has upset you. So i expect you to remove your statement. If you are not prepared to remove it i will be taking it further. I am not prepared to discuss this issue any further with you. The ball is in your court.
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  • #16
  • Sep 3, 2016 12:05pm Sep 3, 2016 12:05pm
Jarat davis, Nial Fuller, Cris Capre, Anil Mongal ( succesful SEO ranked Trading Gurus). Where their Live performances? I don't mind Steve Nison . Steve always focus on Candlestick training and its okay. Some like George Soros have own private company and results are audited so no questions.
  • #17
  • Sep 3, 2016 12:13pm Sep 3, 2016 12:13pm
Go ahead, take it to Theresa May.
It's your luck that you're just a small time punk and haven't conned (m)any people, otherwise you'd be in jail, like this guy https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/30/city-fraudster-alex-hope-investors-cash-fca

Don't forget, the FCA is watching you.
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  • #18
  • Sep 3, 2016 12:36pm Sep 3, 2016 12:36pm
I totally disagree with this.
To answer the OP, I think Jarrat is the real deal - he knows his stuff, he states the truth straight, and he is right. His approach is not so much fundamental is very news-based. And in truth, anyone who knows anything knows that it is news above all else that moves the forex markets. This is the cold hard fact. I havent taken his full course, so I cant comment on that. But I have watched his youtube videos, spot on. Check em out.

On the subject of fundamentals vs technicals, I think the comment below is 180 degrees ass backwards. It is fundamentals (and by that I mean news & events & emotion) that control intraday movements, and "technicals" are of extremely limited value IMO. It is only on weekly and monthly timeframes that technicals have a more solid value, becuase it is only then that the news events that cause the pricing movements are "digested" and can be analyzed by technical measurements.

Quoting RobTaylor
It depends on what you are looking for at the end of the day. Jarratt focuses his efforts on the fundamental approach to trading rather than a technical approach. His focus is on central bank monetary policy, which can take a while to get your head around. If you are looking for a more technical based training course then i would say Jarratt is not your man, but if you want to learn about the fundamental side of trading then he will be able to help you understand that. Jarratt's course is probably 90% fundamental and 10% technical. Short time price...
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  • #19
  • Sep 4, 2016 1:59am Sep 4, 2016 1:59am
Quoting GubyIQ
{quote} You are a scammer because you make unsubstantiated profitability claims on your site(s) in order to take large amounts of money from unsuspecting gullible people. I'll retract what I said and issue a public apology if you provide at least 1 year of MYfxbook verified track-record showcasing the performance you imply on your site(s). I and the FCA would also like to see the authorization you have for offering managed accounts.
Hi, Guby

I completely agree. It is against FCA rules to manage others money or to even advertise to people in the UK and EU.
  • #20
  • Edited Nov 26, 2024 9:16am Sep 4, 2016 5:01am | Edited Nov 26, 2024 9:16am
Hi

I did the { personal information deleted by staff, per request } course
Its a good introduction to fundamentals
Certain things in the course I found useful
Trading the news for one. Fading risk events can be very profitable
It also gives you a lot more confidence when putting on a trade. But it is a lot more work. I have to be ahead of the curve always. I have instant news on all time.

A basic example would be

Suppose there has been bad prints before an FOMC meeting and there are talks in the media of the Fed being dovish then in the day running up to that event you would expect the dollar to be bearish

To be honest I make most of my money by picking things out that other traders miss

For instance during thr Brexit polls I identified which polls moved the market and when they were likley to be released. Some days i got the high or low of a day

The problem is that these trades dont happen too often and sometimes I have to sit on my hands

For instance tomorrow the uk has PMI services. This will really move Cable.
I would expect an improvement on last months figures as we had just had a rate cut but still feel that there are Brexit concerns. So its a bit mixed.
However sentiment wise going into the event i would be bullish as nearly all the figures recently have been beaten and the pound had a pull back on Friday
Analyst reports will then give me confirmation of whether or not I should go long tonight. If they are bearish i wont trade
After the event I might fade it

So if you are going to do the course this is the sort of stuff you end up thinking
Its a lot of work but quite rewarding
And at least you know why the market has moved
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