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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 10:29am Mar 11, 2008 9:48am | Edited 10:29am
Here is the system rules that I have used for the past few weeks.

Buy when a candle close above the last down bar in a downtrend
Sell when a candle close below the last up bar in an uptrend
Take profit when you have earned a few pips or when you get a signal to make an order in the opposite direction.

I have tested the system on EUR/USD 15 minute charts and it worked well. If the market is moving much up and down I recommend that you use a 5 minute chart instead

Below are some of the recent trades you could have made if you used this system.


http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9...vngivetiq7.jpg
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  • #2
  • Mar 11, 2008 1:21pm Mar 11, 2008 1:21pm
Hey,


Great simple method.


One thing, would that first white candle after the first red arrow be a valid buy signal.

Also when do you exit your trade if it is goign the wrong way..stop loss or....?


Thanks

Nip
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  • #3
  • Mar 11, 2008 1:27pm Mar 11, 2008 1:27pm
Nice and simple. Good for scalping when you get sick of all the lines and indicators on the chart. will test it.
  • #4
  • Mar 12, 2008 3:14am Mar 12, 2008 3:14am
Quoting NipthePips
Hey,


Great simple method.


One thing, would that first white candle after the first red arrow be a valid buy signal.

Also when do you exit your trade if it is goign the wrong way..stop loss or....?


Thanks

Nip
Yes it would be a valid buy signal and you would have lost but you could earn it all back with the next sell signal. If the trade goes against me I will wait until I get a signal for making a position in the other direction.
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  • #5
  • Mar 12, 2008 3:20am Mar 12, 2008 3:20am
I like that your system is well-defined (the entries, at least). That makes it easily back-tested. Have you tried writing this as an EA for backtesting? If not, I will give it a go later this week when I have more time on my hands.
  • #6
  • Mar 12, 2008 5:38am Mar 12, 2008 5:38am
It would be nice with an EA for this system. I have not tried to write one as I'm not a coder, but it would be nice if you or someone else could make it

Quoting drummer486
I like that your system is well-defined (the entries, at least). That makes it easily back-tested. Have you tried writing this as an EA for backtesting? If not, I will give it a go later this week when I have more time on my hands.
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  • #7
  • Mar 12, 2008 6:51am Mar 12, 2008 6:51am
ok. I took a bit of a gamble on your system and it kept me busy winning 26 pips in both directions in about 1 hour trading EUR/JPY on 5 min. I targeted 5 pips per trade but settled for 1 or 2 if price moved against me. a losing trade would have been at least 11 pips but I guess that is what scalping is all about. I think the stop/profit needs addressing and probability maybe increased for a bigger target if only taking the longer term trend direction. all in all it was a very satisfying session using your entry criteria. Never thought I would be taking tips from someone calling himself gambler but i guess there is a little gambler in every trader - lol
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  • #8
  • Mar 12, 2008 3:03pm Mar 12, 2008 3:03pm
Quoting Gambler180
It would be nice with an EA for this system. I have not tried to write one as I'm not a coder, but it would be nice if you or someone else could make it
Seems like it would be relatively simple. Maybe we could refine the trade criteria, and then I'll give it a go if I have time. Some questions:

Do you set stops/targets, or do you simply reverse on opposite signals?

Also, do you have any quantitative way to define the trend? An example might be when the slope of a moving average of some period is greater than +x or less than -x (for uptrend and downtrend respectively).
  • #9
  • Mar 12, 2008 5:33pm Mar 12, 2008 5:33pm
No I don't use stops and targets. The way I define a trend is this. If the opening prize of the last bar in an uptrend is broken then the downtrend has started. When the opening prize of the last down bar in that trend is broken the uptrend has started, so there is always a trend.

Quoting drummer486
Seems like it would be relatively simple. Maybe we could refine the trade criteria, and then I'll give it a go if I have time. Some questions:

Do you set stops/targets, or do you simply reverse on opposite signals?

Also, do you have any quantitative way to define the trend? An example might be when the slope of a moving average of some period is greater than +x or less than -x (for uptrend and downtrend respectively).
If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian!
  • #10
  • Mar 13, 2008 8:38am Mar 13, 2008 8:38am
Hey Gambler180,

Your system looked clean and simple, so I went ahead, jumped in and made several trades on the GBP/JPY and the EUR/USD. I made 45 pips in a little over an hour.

I have also been backtesting the system on the 4H TF, and it appears that it is viable for that TF as well.

Thanks for sharing your system.
  • #11
  • Mar 13, 2008 9:37am Mar 13, 2008 9:37am
nice system...but look at the name...haha! you must have driven away so many traders...good system nevertheless...will try it.
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  • #12
  • Mar 13, 2008 9:52am Mar 13, 2008 9:52am
Gambler, nice system! In order to be a valid entry does the candle have to close completely above or below the previous candle or just the close?
  • #13
  • Mar 13, 2008 11:22am Mar 13, 2008 11:22am
It just have to close above or below the opening prize.

Buy signal = when the prize close above the opening prize of the last down bar that is not an inside bar. Opposite for sell signals. I ponly look at the candles from open to close. I don't care about the wicks.

Quoting criss73
Gambler, nice system! In order to be a valid entry does the candle have to close completely above or below the previous candle or just the close?
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  • #14
  • Mar 13, 2008 11:43am Mar 13, 2008 11:43am
How do you interpret a doji?
I like the idea of this system.
Would be great if we could finetune it a bit.
  • #15
  • Mar 13, 2008 12:20pm Mar 13, 2008 12:20pm
I ignore them.

Quoting Tjpld
How do you interpret a doji?
I like the idea of this system.
Would be great if we could finetune it a bit.
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  • #16
  • Edited 12:54pm Mar 13, 2008 12:43pm | Edited 12:54pm
I'd also be carefull if you have a candle that is much much bigger than the previous ones.
I have added Waddah Attar Explosion Indicator and it keeps me out of quite a lot of bad trades!

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6476/waddhaza3.jpg

I'd only take shorts with WAE being this strong.
If you add iTrend it gets even bigger.
  • #17
  • Mar 13, 2008 12:52pm Mar 13, 2008 12:52pm
Quoting Tjpld
I'd also be carefull if you have a candle that is much much bigger than the previous ones.
I have added Waddah Attar Explosion Indicator and it keeps me out of quite a lot of bad trades!

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6476/waddhaza3.jpg

I'd only take shorts with WAE being this strong.
Hi Tjpld,

could you please post the indicator, or is it included in mt4??( or just give me a hint where I can find the indicator)

and just a shor question: what is a doji??

thanks a lot for your help.
  • #18
  • Mar 13, 2008 1:12pm Mar 13, 2008 1:12pm
A doji is a candle where open and close is/is almost the same.

I'm still looking for indicators and time frames that work best.
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  • #19
  • Mar 14, 2008 3:22am Mar 14, 2008 3:22am
Yeah your system wins
Rocks & Works!!!

Good simple job Gambler
  • #20
  • Mar 14, 2008 3:25am Mar 14, 2008 3:25am
How long have you been using this method Bro?????
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