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  • First Post: Nov 19, 2020 9:43am Nov 19, 2020 9:43am
  •  yanetjellen
  • Joined Aug 2017 | Status: Member | 85 Posts
have been boiled down to their simplest and most impartial form...there's definitely something there...can you tell me exactly what you see?
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  • Nov 19, 2020 10:40am Nov 19, 2020 10:40am
  •  EllaCen
  • | Joined Oct 2020 | Status: Member | 64 Posts
Quoting yanetjellen
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have been boiled down to their simplest and most impartial form...there's definitely something there...can you tell me exactly what you see?
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My point is: I don't care about bull market or bear market, as long as I see the right point, I'll do the enter without hestation. Even if only 20 ticks, I can with 2 or 3 order to make profit every day, but I am not trade everyday
Change is never easy, but always possible
 
 
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  • Nov 20, 2020 9:13am Nov 20, 2020 9:13am
  •  yanetjellen
  • Joined Aug 2017 | Status: Member | 85 Posts
Quoting EllaCen
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{quote} My point is: I don't care about bull market or bear market, as long as I see the right point, I'll do the enter without hestation.
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Hello...

so you claim to not care about anything but an arbitrary or fixed point on the battlefield and you seem to have decisiveness... it sounds like you know a little about yourself but how well do you know thy enemy? what about the enemy of the enemy...who is really versus who at the "atomic" levels of our world

trading is like fighting gravity/laws of nature but with many more tools available to assist in the bending and breaking of them...in fact the bending part is pretty much standard issue just for participating...pretty sweet deal, but what do most people do instead of embracing this power to endure/adapt/reach new horizons? they immediately begin weighing it down with all manner of arbitrary rules, preconceptions etc attempting to buffer pain/uncertainty etc...

to make a long story short, i'm coming more to believing the highest state possible for most traders is mastering all it means and requires to true impartiality...then at worst most of what cannot be mended can be endured... and the pinnacle being a pathway to completely leaving the map...like a ghost looking on from outside the battle until it's time to swoop in and pick up all the pieces...

direct hedging, building large basket trades typically do not achieve impartiality needed to make money or be able to make accurate adjustments on the fly...perhaps one method is too simple and the other too complex...it's more about the impartiality and flexibility needed for the moment at hand... ironically two of things most traders want nothing to do with lololol
 
 
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  • Edited 11:22am Nov 20, 2020 10:59am | Edited 11:22am
  •  EllaCen
  • | Joined Oct 2020 | Status: Member | 64 Posts
In fact, not all experienced people get their satisfactory profit. There are still many people who have been doing it for more than ten years or even decades. I can't say that I'm already a successful trader, but I started 10000 Dollars to investememt, and turned 150000 Dollars in a year! I am very satisfied with myself. This is because I defeated the psychology. If I fail twice in a row of trading, I'll give up and will continute the nest day. My risk control within 20% of my investment. My average profit between 1000 to 2000 Dollars each trading day. Each trading capital beween 700 to 3000 Dollars, usually 3 trading days of week. This is my rule, I am day trading, never over night!!! because I wanted good and queit sleeping. No sentiment!!!

This is the legende Jesse Livemore trade Rule:
Trade only in the direction of the general market
Enter a trade immediately after the market confirms your opinion
Continue with trades that show a profit, end trades that show a loss
Sell when it’s clear that the trend is over
Go long when stocks reach a new high. Sell short at a new low.
Don’t try to trade every day of the year

ofcause information of MA (50,30), 30mins, 1H, 4H, day, week charts helps very good
Change is never easy, but always possible
 
 
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  • Dec 15, 2020 3:40am Dec 15, 2020 3:40am
  •  Tmaniss
  • | Joined Feb 2019 | Status: Euphoric | 8 Posts
Its impossible to tell you what I see without telling you what I do but I'll try

First about the pairs, never should you trade more than one. There's a rich logic behind staying with one instrument, there's Also one instrument that beats all the rest

In the end what do you see?
What's interpreting what you should be seeing

How much do you really know cos to win you cannot be one with the herd- the majority are eaten by the minority. The farther you stand on the minority edge of the continuum the more of the majority you get to eat.

So what does this mean?
All of your analysis, whichever that is should reveal what is truly happening. It means you get to win the only way possible or close to it

You get to be on one side of the continuum preying on the larger crowd.

So what characterizes the crowd?- How much do they know without being deceived

How pure is their knowledge of what's going on?

How pure is yours?

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  •  Mossma
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Dec 2019 | 51 Posts
The market is a combination of large amounts of data that can be linked together and create strong causal relationships. And here you can always find certain patterns and mechanisms that work constantly and that make sense in making decisions. And the market does not have to be limited by some standards, here you can definitely experiment and try something non-standard, because different mechanisms and different methods are applicable here, which will affect different levels of the market. This is really interesting, although it creates some difficulties because sometimes people take a long enough period of time to find something suitable and come up with a concrete plan of action.
 
 
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  •  Whitewind
  • | Joined May 2020 | Status: Member | 48 Posts
Anything is possible in this business.
Some traders use simple or even primitive analysis techniques and achieve incredible results.
While other traders try to analyze everything as accurately and carefully as possible, and at the same time spend a lot of time in empty searches for the ideal position.
Here you probably need to try to adapt to this as soon as possible and become more decisive in order to study the market in practice. It works, especially since now you can do it on demo. And it will also allow you to compile statistics and analyze the moments of the most confident position in the market. It's the right way. This is what you need.
Don't be limited by fear and insecurity.
 
 
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  •  yanetjellen
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Quoting Mossma
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The market is a combination of large amounts of data that can be linked together and create strong causal relationships. And here you can always find certain patterns and mechanisms that work constantly and that make sense in making decisions. And the market does not have to be limited by some standards, here you can definitely experiment and try something non-standard, because different mechanisms and different methods are applicable here, which will affect different levels of the market. This is really interesting, although it creates some difficulties...
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wow this thread was a big hit...really got some thinkers in here...definitely worth bumping...i was hoping to get a bit more discussion on the exact topic that would coax me into spoonfeeding my material, but it didn't happen lololol...so, now you only get the half of it...

Mossma, it seems you're the lucky winner...i want you to focus down to the pit of your being on understanding who exactly you are taking sides with before pressing the button...only then you might have a slim chance at someday realizing the answer to all problems associated with a game where the only choice is for, or against...is to not be for or against...eliminate all opportunities for rivalry.

but regimes are regimes for a reason...realize when you're leaving someone out... people do not like being ignored or left out...now the question is, how do i get as near to the source as possible so i can ensure that everyone is represented...is it even possible to account for all of the main participants in our little world trading a pair like GBP/JPY? how about EUR/USD? which one gets you closer to the real source? maybe it's impossible to account for all back doors and potentially dangerous foe by only trading one pair, one direction...maybe you could get so skilled you know exactly which streams comprise the source and how to go about doing your part to balance the force...this is where your flashy l33t candlestick training and highly tuned bullshit meter, aka, fundamental skills, begin to work properly...nothing pisses off the apex market participants like someone who has zero etiquette or god forbid someone who doesn't even know who is who...you will realize much more damage than necessary over the long run when displaying a total lack of awareness to the finer points and spirit of the game...chronic rigidity...no commitment, no adaptability, no spontaneity, no impartiality... lack of willingness to endure/fight back... also don't always resist giving apparent opposing forces a backdoor to escape from

refusal to acquire skills that allow deviation from the fairy tale plan you put together over weekend or in the pre game...the fairy tale, rife with weakness, awkward handrails, ironclad levels, head and elbows patterns is all carefully engineered under the guise of being "disciplined" and does everything but being able to work in the ever present and elusive here and now...but i must commend anyone who strives to become self sufficient and works on innovation over imitation no matter how bad it looks at first...

forget 99% of the nonsense learned from YT livestream characters claiming to be legit manual traders/scalpers regurgitating babypips to the masses, while never showing PnL or any real live trading...it takes much more than a 30m chart only and drawing two lines waiting for some far flung level, usually right at the strongest point of resistance/turbulence as some sort of confirmation that their donk buys will somehow get through the best traders in the world and not get them noticed along with every other wait and see knobber accumulating there...then if it goes -1 pip they're already stopping out of half the position screaming "discipline" "risk manage is key, bro" and the masses just eat up the rhetoric... then everyone retreats to safe spaces and chants babypips material until the guru gets the nerve to take their imaginary one trade for the week/month and generate a signal... find the one rare thing they're good for, absorb it and move on...vehemently reject that which does not work..it's not impossible to win trading only in this manner it's just that it's probably only the correct play in 2/10 scenarios and pretty much caps all potential and hopes of evolving into a flowing entity capable of nutso results

when you are manual retail trader with no support team, hft's, inside knowledge, are trading your own money, smaller account that you hope to make bigger before you're on social security benefits, you must be extremely well versed in all aspects, and really really good in the trenches of what some like to call scalping...a fancy word for a skillset that is hell to learn but ultimately will be the make or break learning how to make those painful little adjustments of which the plan didn't account for and those of which can only be mended or navigated clear of by present, skilled human touch

Scalping, like any other "style" of trading will have limitations and drawbacks and is far from a one sized fits all solution...but the crucial skills learned in this arena translate well across the board/timeframes and need to be in the toolbox...be honest with yourself about what it takes to make big amounts with relative pocket change...currency affords you the ability to do this with proper and sober application of levering...yet another critical skill best learned with small account size and in the scalping arena...Remember...once you build account size to larger amounts you can dial back lever and abuse the bigger cushion and flexibility of the increased base margin levels...or better yet always pay yourself and keep account size near the current sweet spot number...begin storing bullets anywhere other than all in your trading account...the bullet mentality should always be the core of your trading mentality every trade or better yet, when building positions...do you really wanna be that guy who can only plop down one hideous sized position at one price with a hard stop 6 pips away and that's it? do you wanna carry a musket into battle or something that has a 30rd magazine?

many guys start with obscene trading account sizes and are ruined by the time they figure out what to do.. the big levers are really the only road to making big amounts with small amounts...sorry to rain on anyone's parade...learn it...love it...use it...abuse it...the beauty is extreme opportunity to escape micro hell and the ouchies are easier to recover from psychologically and financially...although i personally hate losing nearly the same regardless of amounts...but by now you've earned the right to bigger account and any levering you do will be with the experience/respect learned at the bottom...ideally you would just pay yourself as your account size grows beyond the sweet spot...everything changes when you have more reloads put back than you could ever feasibly blow...added this extra rant at the end because it's already on my mind and don't get around much...any further input regarding the OP is welcome too...i love different viewpoints and really like absorbing unique traits of other traders and deeper stuff from those who are evolving by the constant effort of hacking away at the unessential and really focusing on how to use complex skills in the simplest possible ways to overcome wastage and being as near the source as possible
 
 
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