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  • First Post: Mar 15, 2006 7:49pm Mar 15, 2006 7:49pm
  •  Fanat
  • | Joined Nov 2005 | Status: Member | 40 Posts
I read these on another forum, here these 2 stories are paraphrased and translated by me.

"Some time ago I have done this experiment (with parents consent). I taught his 10 year old son basic concepts of candle analysis and taught him the most common candlestick reverals patterns. I done this as an argument with his father who lives in the USA about that you don’t need to know more than the most basic MM and some candles, within 2month his son will be in pluses trading stocks. I have recommended that his son does not study ANY FA or TA. His father gave his son 10k. Guess what, after two month son’s account has risen by 50% by using a leverage of 1:1-1:2 on stocks while the father barely increased his account by 2%… Now father’s wife constantly bugs her husband “Even our 10 year old….?"

Another story.

“I trade on Forex almost 2 years with fluctuating success, maybe because I am analyzing too much. This thought was brought to me from my Wife from a very interesting situation…Half a year ago I was waiting for news to arrive. I read a ton of literature on FA, I analysed the trend through TA and my opinion of the future move was 80-90% certain. 5 Minutes remained till the news arrive. I was anxiously waiting while my wife was in the kitchen. I don’t remember why, but she came to me from behind and looked at the monitor. “Oh the price will go up right now” she said. I smiled politely and told her to go to the kitchen as this is trading, it is not for women’s mind. I was sure the price would go down. Many things can happen on Forex. I was wrong… Some time later the situation happened again. I again thought that this was coincidence, you know, beginners luck… But when this started to happen regularly, even when I was really sure about my prognosis, she was ALWAYS correct. … My wife likes to complain why I am not a millionaire yet…”

In other word, TA and FA can rest!

Any comments, suggestions?
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  • Mar 15, 2006 8:14pm Mar 15, 2006 8:14pm
  •  eastmaels
  • | Joined Jul 2005 | Status: J16G Expectancy Seeker | 676 Posts
In my opinion, I think this is a very dangerous thing for the beginner...

I just think that it will only encourage one to expect that trading is easy...
And such statements may tend for one to think that he's bigger than the market...

But based on one of the interviews in the New Market Wizards (the one J.Schwager did not mention the interviewee's name), that it's possible to trade based on instinct.. BUT! And a very BIG BUTT! Oooppps.. I mean a very BIG BUT!

Trading instincts are not learned within a day, in my opinion again... But rather, it is learned through constant experience and constant flow with the market...

So to develop those instincts, I think the steps indicated by Mark Douglas in his book "Trading in the Zone" is very much the steps a new trader should follow.. Which are:

1) Mechanical Trading
2) Subjective Trading
3) Instinctive Trading

Again, just my humble opinions...

Regards,
East
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  • Last Post: Mar 15, 2006 8:54pm Mar 15, 2006 8:54pm
  •  MrMajik
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: Member | 79 Posts
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I read these on another forum, here these 2 stories are paraphrased and translated by me.

"Some time ago I have done this experiment (with parents consent). I taught his 10 year old son basic concepts of candle analysis and taught him the most common candlestick reverals patterns. I done this as an argument with his father who lives in the USA about that you don’t need to know more than the most basic MM and some candles, within 2month his son will be in pluses trading stocks. I have recommended that his son does not study ANY FA or TA. His father gave his son 10k. Guess what, after two month son’s account has risen by 50% by using a leverage of 1:1-1:2 on stocks while the father barely increased his account by 2%… Now father’s wife constantly bugs her husband “Even our 10 year old….?"

Another story.

“I trade on Forex almost 2 years with fluctuating success, maybe because I am analyzing too much. This thought was brought to me from my Wife from a very interesting situation…Half a year ago I was waiting for news to arrive. I read a ton of literature on FA, I analysed the trend through TA and my opinion of the future move was 80-90% certain. 5 Minutes remained till the news arrive. I was anxiously waiting while my wife was in the kitchen. I don’t remember why, but she came to me from behind and looked at the monitor. “Oh the price will go up right now” she said. I smiled politely and told her to go to the kitchen as this is trading, it is not for women’s mind. I was sure the price would go down. Many things can happen on Forex. I was wrong… Some time later the situation happened again. I again thought that this was coincidence, you know, beginners luck… But when this started to happen regularly, even when I was really sure about my prognosis, she was ALWAYS correct. … My wife likes to complain why I am not a millionaire yet…”

In other word, TA and FA can rest!

Any comments, suggestions?
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Fanat, I have a similar story that happened in the late 70s. Silver was the hot thing at the time and I was getting my feet wet (or should I say burnt) in the silver commodities market. My broker suggested day trading. It sure sounded like a great idea as this was my introduction to trading. I started with $5k and ended a few weeks later with about $700. The thing I remember the most about this is when my broker recommended I enter my day trade in one direction my wife would tell me to enter a contract the other direction. The only thing she knew about trading was I was losing. She was right every time.

Note: I do not recommend trading this way.
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