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  • First Post: Oct 13, 2008 9:23pm | Edited May 21, 2013 8:32am (16 hr ago)
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
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Hi Fellow Traders,

My name is Sonic. I want you to read The 5 steps of Becoming the profitable trader (5 steps pdf) document before you do anything else in trading.


A Sonicdeejay Story

I have been trading for a near 5 years now (Since 2008) and been full with cheers and tears.
Just like many of you. I started out looking for the holy grail <aka> indicators that gives buy/sell with no loss.
Soon, I found out that my trading statement is going no where, with messy charts and too many indicators to confirm. That causes the late signal trigger; minimizing my wins and maximizing my losses. I start to realize that indicators the one based on the prices happened can calculated according to the formula, causing them lagging behind the price. movement.

After reading many books, crawling different systems and LIVE trading, I have come to conclusion that there is no "mechanical" systems or indicators can really predict where the price will go with 60~100% accuracy. The market doesn't care about I became to understand the importance of Trade/Risk Management, General trend (Bias) , S & R. So, I started Sonic R with the intention to share and learn from traders alike. Few comes and goes, until traderathome came along.

He is a great man with pure heart. He put countless hours in writing up Sonic R templates and educating others. We will not be where we are here without his endless support.


The Sonic R philosophy

Trading is a probability business.
Even you put tons of hours for a set up and it still can turn sour..
You can win and you can lose too.
It is your job to minimize your loss and maximize your win.
You will follow set of rules that will help you on the winning sides most of the time.



The Rise of Sonic R

Here is a simple, nice and profitable 15M swing system that I get inspired from Raghee 's book.
A Blindly followed Moving Averages system can be very successful in trending market, but I am around here long enough to witness the failure of it, when the market goes into ranging periods.
So, I fine tuned the system with understanding of Volume Analysis,S & R, Wave analysis and Price action, and I am getting high success rate on my position/swing trading.
I'd like to call it Sonic R.
Now, it is not the magic bullet, nothing is.
It is a simple EMA based yet effective system.
You can earn 50 to 400+ pips on a trade.



Sonic Rules.

1. Do not Over trade big or trade during Asian Session.. Most of the best Set Up or Proper trend occur at/after London Opens. You shouldn't trade more than 5 trades a week..

2. Never add a losing positions aka average your positions.

3.
You SL must wide enough to for the price to breath.. If you put it too tight, the chance of getting your SL hit is very high even though the price goes to direction that you wanted eventually.

4. We have 2 types of trade entries, Classic Sonic R. and Sonic Scout (TAH call it PVSRA).

For Sonic R Classic, I have put the "entry, exit, SL and TP" rules with all necessary indicators into "SonicR or SonicRV2 or SonicRV3" zip file.
SonicRV3 is created with better and more comprehensive examples..

You also can check out our best contributer Professor TAH's templates HERE and

The latest Sonic R. System Manual (in brief)
HERE or HERE
Summary in English HERE
Summary in Russian HERE
Summary in Spanish HERE

Check out about the essence of Sonic R HERE, find out why the Sonic R set ups have been profitable.

Please refer to the attachment of this post and you can learn how to install and load the Sonic template properly , HERE


For Sonic R Scout,PVSRA


Sonic M (Money/Risk Management)

You can find out how you can maximize your winning edge, minimize your risk HERE



Advice for the newcomers

Just like learning how to drive a car or operation a surgery, trading isn't easy either.
But it can be learnt and understood with the great amount of effort and patience.
If you think or made to believe that trading is the "get rich quick" scheme, you are in for a rude awakening.
So, I suggest you to read all the material in page 1 post 1 and at least the last 50 pages of the forum.

Try with Demo trading first, to practice HERE ..
Then trade LIVE..


Sonic R on You Tube
I post videos time to time.. YOUTUBE
Give my videos thumb up, if you like it..


The Reason

And why am I sharing this, while I do not earn a penny from you for my time and effort? Because I believe Sharing is Caring.


The Expectations

I have found my hedge fund and started managing others' money but I have no commercial interest in sharing this system.
You can say thank to me by posting comment in my profile, "vouching" me in my profile and rating to this thread (on the right hand corner of this page) or you can add Sonic R. Fan Page in facebook... HERE
Please don't be a silent lurker. Get yourself involve in this community, sharing with others as well about your experiences and trade set ups.
Let's get the ball rolling..



Sonic
(P.S This knowledge shared here is totally FOC, I do not have any intention to make $$ out of it, why should I ask your money while I can make my own )
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  • Oct 13, 2008 9:31pm | Edited at 10:26pm
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
Here is the sample trades last nite..


White :::: Open positions
Red::: SL line
Blue/Lite Blue :::: TP, Close positions


Sonic
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  • Oct 13, 2008 9:59pm | Edited at 10:26pm
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
+300 pips trade on EUR/JPY...
**I have Euro Long bias on mind.

White :::: Open positions
Red::: SL line
Blue/Lite Blue :::: TP, Close positions


Cheers
Sonic
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  • Oct 13, 2008 10:02pm
  • Yaad
    Joined Feb 2008 | 323 Posts | Status: Greedy? Yes.
Looks good when the market is trending, but in a ranging market you will get murdered even if you are entering a few pips above/below the set up bar.

Been trying to "perfect" a similar system for some months now, results haven't been that good.
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  • Oct 13, 2008 10:11pm | Edited Oct 14, 2008 9:38pm
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
Quoting Yaad
Looks good when the market is trending, but in a ranging market you will get murdered even if you are entering a few pips above/below the set up bar.

Been trying to "perfect" a similar system for some months now, results haven't been that good.
Absolutely agree on this one...I am glad that u asked.here are the solutions that I incorporated, to avoid possible whipsaw.

1. Trading Time Periods (that kill alot of whipsaw blunders)
2. Angle of the slope (Long 1 to 2 O clock, Short 4 to 5 O clock, avoid 3 O clock Ranging)
3. Muliple TF confirmations (By checking in 15M and 1H TF (for 5M TF trade) and 1H, D1H TF (for 15M TF trade) give u an edge on the sense of direction of Overall Trend)...
4. Not chasing after the trade. (that beats alot of single bar fake breakout, created by Big Boys)

Hope these helps.

Sonic
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  • Oct 14, 2008 9:00pm | Edited at 10:52pm
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
White :::: Open positions
Red::: SL line
Blue/Lite Blue :::: TP, Close positions

Yesterday was ranging during UK session and I await for a valid break out. Please attention to how I count my wave using HH,HL and LH,LL...

Trade 1 (long)
Entry..I was waiting for the ranging line to get broken (The white line)
SL.... I put my SL @ few pips below nearest support level. (The red line)
TP.... I book my profit when top "M" shapre is broken.
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  • Mombone
    Joined Sep 2007 | 106 Posts | Status: Member
Am I missing something?? What indi puts the white and red lines on the chart??

Thanks
Mombone
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  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
Quoting Mombone
Am I missing something?? What indi puts the white and red lines on the chart??

Thanks
Mombone
Hello Mombone,
The lines are drawn by myself for illustrating purpose...in Paint..It is not include in the MT4.


Sonic
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  • kentashiburo
    Joined Aug 2008 | 272 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting Yaad
Looks good when the market is trending, but in a ranging market you will get murdered even if you are entering a few pips above/below the set up bar.

Been trying to "perfect" a similar system for some months now, results haven't been that good.
I've used Stochastics and oSMA's (2yrs) to the same extent with amazing results in trending market, but horrible for scalping in low volatility.

Takes a lot of discretionary positioning and it is kind of nerve wrecking
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  • Oct 14, 2008 10:49pm
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
Quoting kentashiburo
I've used Stochastics and oSMA's (2yrs) to the same extent with amazing results in trending market, but horrible for scalping in low volatility.

Takes a lot of discretionary positioning and it is kind of nerve wrecking
Agree about the killer ranging periods....but have u tried to trade following the rules in post #5. You will see the differences...

Hope it helps//
Sonic
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  • kentashiburo
    Joined Aug 2008 | 272 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting sonicdeejay
Agree about the killer ranging periods....but have u tried to trade following the rules in post #5. You will see the differences...

Hope it helps//
Sonic
Hi Sonic,

I am a bit confused by 1 and 4. Care to expand on that?
Quoting sonicdeejay
1. Trading Time Periods (that kill alot of whipsaw blunders)
4. Not chasing after the trade. (that beats alot of single bar fake breakout, created by Big Boys)
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  • Oct 15, 2008 12:00am | Edited at 1:59am
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
Quoting kentashiburo
Hi Sonic,

I am a bit confused by 1 and 4. Care to expand on that?
1. Nice Trading time periods, that have major movement.... UK is the main centre of Forex and UK/US session overlap has a lot of movement too....

Trading Time
1AM - 4 AM EST (UK session)
7AM - 11 AM EST (US session)



4. We do not buy/sell on the break on the line immediately. Wait till that break-thru candle close. and we put buy stop/sell stop few pips above or below it...

Buy
Look for the candle go above upper white line and wait till the candle ends...and put the "Buy stop" few pips above the "High" of that candle.
MACD sloping up.
Stoch pointing up.

Sell
Look for the candle go below lower white line and wait till the candle ends...and put the "Sell stop" few pips below the "Low" of that candle.
MACD sloping down.
Stoch pointing down.

Hope it helps,
Sonic
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  • drmahathir
    Joined Oct 2007 | 40 Posts | Status: Lord of the RINGGITS
Thanks for sharing this simple system, Sonic. I like the fact that with a buy/sell stop you won't be roped in on false breakouts.

One question, you mention that stocs should be pointing up for long signal. Does it matter whether it just crossed 20 or well passed 20?

Thanks again
I'm a money magnet! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
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  • Oct 15, 2008 7:17am | Edited at 8:53am
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
GBP/USD 15M trade...

Bagged a near +140 pips....

The Angle looks OK...


So, wait for the breakout.
Break out at point 1. Stoch doesn't favour. Wait till it ends (If u chase, u will get caught here).. Put a "Buy Stop" with few pips above it @white line 1. I like number like .7 or .4 ...
The order doesn't get taken and price swing back.

Break out again at point 2,I put the buy stop at white line 2.

SL @ upper red line. Sometimes, I'd put SL @ t lower red line as it is a nice Support level and defintely withstand from normal whipp.

Well...the rest is as u can see,,,


Sonic
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  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
Quoting drmahathir
Thanks for sharing this simple system, Sonic. I like the fact that with a buy/sell stop you won't be roped in on false breakouts.

One question, you mention that stocs should be pointing up for long signal. Does it matter whether it just crossed 20 or well passed 20?

Thanks again

Doesn't matter...about the level....Stoch up is all I want...

Sonic
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  • emacro
    Joined May 2007 | 631 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting sonicdeejay
Hi,

Trading is a probability game, you can win and you can lose too. It is your job to minimise your loss and maximize your win.
Here is a nice and profitable 5M/15M scalp system that I found in Raghee 's book, I fine tune it a lil bit, and I am getting high success rate on my scalping apart from my original Sonic Striker System which is based on 4H TF.
Hi
I have read the book, from memory Ms Horner uses the CCI to be above/below 100/-100 for confirmation.

Did you try to use the original, and do you fine the macd and stoch better.
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  • Oct 15, 2008 8:07pm | Edited Oct 16, 2008 1:11am
  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
CCI is breifly used in the book to illustarted Divergence and trend line...CCI is nice indicator too...
Well..As for me.. Stoch preforms better...


Sonic
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  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
Clearly a winner...Short and Long trade...

Sonic
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  • okehiedon
    Joined May 2008 | 407 Posts | Status: EMPEROR
Quoting sonicdeejay
CCI is breifly used in the book to illustarted Divergence and trend line...CCI is nice indicator too...
Well..As for me.. Stoch preforms better...


Sonic
Sonicdeejay

What is the name of Horner's book. I just started trading EJ and would look to follow your 5 min scalp system. How well has it performed on the currency?
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  • sonicdeejay
    Joined Mar 2008 | 7,604 Posts | Status: Private Fund Manager @ K2 Capital
The book is called

Forex trading for Maximum Profit.... Pretty cool I must say..

Sonic
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