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View Poll Results: what step are you on?
step 1 4 3.28%
steps 2-6 2 1.64%
steps 7-14 10 8.20%
steps 15-22 30 24.59%
steps 23-33 54 44.26%
steps 34-37 15 12.30%
step 38 7 5.74%
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Old Mar 8, 2004 1:09am
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Default 38 Steps to being a Trader

38 steps to becoming a trader

They are as follows:

1. We accumulate information - buying books, going to seminars and researching.
2. We begin to trade with our 'new' knowledge.
3. We consistently 'donate' and then realise we may need more knowledge or information.
4. We accumulate more information.
5. We switch the commodities we are currently following.
6. We go back into the market and trade with our 'updated' knowledge.
7. We get 'beat up' again and begin to lose some of our confidence. Fear starts setting in.
8. We start to listen to 'outside news' and to other traders.
9. We go back into the market and continue to 'donate'.
10. We switch commodities again.
11. We search for more information.
12. We go back into the market and start to see a little progress.
13. We get 'over-confident' and the market humbles us.
14. We start to understand that trading successfully is going to take more time and more knowledge than we anticipated.

MOST PEOPLE WILL GIVE UP AT THIS POINT, AS THEY REALISE WORK IS INVOLVED.

15. We get serious and start concentrating on learning a 'real' methodology.
16. We trade our methodology with some success, but realise that something is missing.
17. We begin to understand the need for having rules to apply our methodology.
18. We take a sabbatical from trading to develop and research our trading rules.
19. We start trading again, this time with rules and find some success, but over all we still hesitate when we execute.
20. We add, subtract and modify rules as we see a need to be more proficient with our rules.
21. We feel we are very close to crossing that threshold of successful trading.
22. We start to take responsibility for our trading results as we understand that our success is in us, not the methodology.
23. We continue to trade and become more proficient with our methodology and our rules.
24. As we trade we still have a tendency to violate our rules and our results are still erratic.
25. We know we are close.
26. We go back and research our rules.
27. We build the confidence in our rules and go back into the market and trade.
28. Our trading results are getting better, but we are still hesitating in executing our rules.
29. We now see the importance of following our rules as we see the results of our trades when we don't follow the rules.
30. We begin to see that our lack of success is within us (a lack of discipline in following the rules because of some kind of fear) and we begin to work on knowing ourselves better.
31. We continue to trade and the market teaches us more and more about ourselves.
32. We master our methodology and our trading rules.
33. We begin to consistently make money.
34. We get a little over-confident and the market humbles us.
35. We continue to learn our lessons.
36. We stop thinking and allow our rules to trade for us (trading becomes boring, but successful) and our trading account
continues to grow as we increase our contract size.
37. We are making more money than we ever dreamed possible.
38. We go on with our lives and accomplish many of the goals we had always dreamed of.

Most traders will identify with this list and should be able to place themselves within these steps. Keep in mind that very few people progress through these steps in an orderly fashion. Developing your trading skills is an iterative process. For example, you may reach Step 13., find that although you were making money, your basic premise for trading was flawed (you might have been benefiting from the bull market, rather than your own trading prowess and then have been rudely awakened when the market entered a bear phase) and you may drop back to Step 4. and start 'climbing' the steps again. Having the proper mindset, attitude and psychological makeup becomes increasingly important as you progress through the steps. The focus
of the earlier steps is on external issues, i.e. developing proficiency in the mechanics of trading while the focus of the latter steps (particularly from Step 30, on) is on internal issues, i.e. improving ourselves mentally and psychologically, maturing as
traders.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 7:12pm
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I think I'm in a tight 7->13 range...

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Old Apr 1, 2004 9:02am
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Thumbs up keep your cool


On great days keep your cool.
Hopefully you dont let the off days bum you out

I got really pumped up from a recent go with the gbd and the aud...over 500 pips in 2 days,I m still trading with a demo account...I m not ready to go out and load up a live account until I get more consistancy.

I have quite a busy day job....I really enjoy the 5 min fx methods.
I feel way down the road this will provide a way I can hopefully make some decent money on

This is a great forum

L
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Old Apr 1, 2004 11:29am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doclouis

On great days keep your cool.
Hopefully you dont let the off days bum you out

I got really pumped up from a recent go with the gbd and the aud...over 500 pips in 2 days,I m still trading with a demo account...I m not ready to go out and load up a live account until I get more consistancy.

I have quite a busy day job....I really enjoy the 5 min fx methods.
I feel way down the road this will provide a way I can hopefully make some decent money on

This is a great forum

L
ps......
and today lost about 100 pips with eur
and chf

so dont make that bust of me for the forex hall of fame yet!
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Old Apr 1, 2004 3:08pm
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yeah there have been a lot of opportunities lately (I;m new too, if there are always opportunities like this.. woowoo!). "Keep your cool." Easy to
say not always easy to do when your equity curve is drastically going one way or the other..... Someday maybe it will be a skill I will have developed.... ...
until then...... .. . ..

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Old Jan 9, 2005 8:11pm
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Very interesting list. I'm new to this WORLD of FOREX THANKS to veterens like you all I really appreciate the knowledge.


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Old Jan 25, 2005 8:58pm
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Lol Yeah I rember this days I guess i wasnt the only one who started out like the first 16 steps and your are right lol Many do quit there i guess the strong once prevail and im still in the game lol

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Old Mar 19, 2005 12:18pm
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It is very interesting. I have begun to analise on what step I am. Thanks all!
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Old Aug 29, 2006 1:10pm
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<!--StartFragment --> Great read thanks for sharing.

Just one question...Can I go straight to 37?

no?

Damn.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 7:03pm
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no worries seleana, I'm vascillating between 1 and 2 right now!
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Old Aug 29, 2006 7:34pm
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Around the 28area, feel I be close, could have to retake the last section a few times though


Good List, can certainly agree with it.


The question is, what will come first consistent profits, or a nervous break down / going postal ?? Find out pretty soon !!!

( got 2 weeks pretty much free to trade so going NUTSO )
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Old Nov 6, 2007 8:57pm
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wo hooo, a post with number 1..... the first post in FF?
sorry for the curious thinking,,, can't help it

edit:
make it 1st - 4 th post
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Old Nov 6, 2007 9:15pm
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I was at level 32 after 3 months trading forex and now I'm on to 37 hopefully soon. My engineering experience has taught me to find ways to solutions faster by working smarter; trading is like a business endeavor one would acquired persistence and determination to succeed.

Cheers,

scalpt
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Old Nov 6, 2007 9:26pm
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I was at level 32 after 3 months trading forex and now I'm on to 37 hopefully soon. My engineering experience has taught me to find ways to solutions faster by working smarter; trading is like a business endeavor one would acquired persistence and determination to succeed.

Cheers,

scalpt
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Old Nov 6, 2007 9:52pm
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Same back at you.
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