Disliked{quote} May I ask you to try with these three charts please? {image}{image}{image}Ignored
Now my winning streak of 1 will surely be crushed. I think red made it easier on me last time.
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Disliked{quote} May I ask you to try with these three charts please? {image}{image}{image}Ignored
Disliked{quote} Well, I'm feeling like this is a setup, but my ego isn't so fragile that I won't play-along anyway. If this isn't some sneaky trickery, then 2 doesn't look real, and out of 1 and 3 I, like red, would lean towards #3 as a real chart. I'm not sure if they are all real, none real, or some number in between, so I rank them 3 1 2 in order of my guess as to the likelihood of it being from a legit chart somewhere. Now my winning streak of 1 will surely be crushed. I think red made it easier on me last time.Ignored
Disliked{quote} May I ask you to try with these three charts please? {image}{image}{image}Ignored
DislikedNubcake you're amazing! The two first charts are indeed random. The third chart is G/U daily from 12/09/2011 to 03/04/2012. I thought I could trick you with a ranging market because usually people expect a random walk to oscillate around a mean. I also thought that you could successfully distinguish redlion's random charts because of the Normal distribution he used; that you were hinted by the lack of "fat tail effect". So I tried to mimic the market distribution as closely as possible. Here is how I built the charts: I took all my E/U tick database...Ignored
DislikedNubcake you're amazing! The two first charts are indeed random. The third chart is G/U daily from 12/09/2011 to 03/04/2012. I thought I could trick you with a ranging market because usually people expect a random walk to oscillate around a mean. I also thought that you could successfully distinguish redlion's random charts because of the Normal distribution he used; that you were hinted by the lack of "fat tail effect". So I tried to mimic the market distribution as closely as possible. Here is how I built the charts: I took...Ignored
Disliked{quote} Do you really think you created randomness by doing this ?Ignored
Disliked{quote} I agree, this is not fully random because PipMeUp used previous data to compile the charts, so its more pseudo-random.Although i`m not sure how he picked the ticks, but even if he picked it fully random, if the market itself is not fully random, then no matter how randomly he picks the ticks, the result will not be random either. And if thats the case then that number 3 chart can infact repeat in real life too, or it has been repeated already at some point. To generate real random charts, PipMeUp...Ignored
QuoteDislikedDo you really think you created randomness by doing this ?
QuoteDislikedPipMeUp should use a real random generator of 0,1 to count ticks.If 1 comes, then tick is higher than the last one, if 0 comes then tick is lower than the last one, and another random number to define how much is the distance between the new the previous tick.
Disliked{quote} Not at all. I used the Mersenne Twister. It isn't cryptographically strong but it is commonly used for Monte-Carlo simulations. For the purpose of generating a random chart it is very sufficient, especially for visual inspection. Anyway I've no more radioactive material in stock {quote} This wouldn't do the trick because I would get a uniform distribution: each move would have the same probability. I wanted the same distribution as the market itself. Because I don't know its distribution I sampled from the data directly. I took...Ignored
QuoteDislikedThe 2 charts you created ..Does all the candles have same number of ticks ?
DislikedOk the maths in there objective state one can not question. Lets imagine that a every force has a code of genetical make up.if only through its participation .and the only thing that interrupts that given path is the unknown variants.but what if the validity actually remains intact.the multidimensional of this market is not understood .something stoatic probabability has not yet been calculated. The fact that the multidimensional is not considered obscures our vision. Im more inclined to believe that this market is more non random than random ....Ignored
DislikedCandlestick patterns are formed randomly and as such should be disregarded as a trading method. But the market is far from random, found loads of repeating patterns over the years, just finding 1's which are long term profitable is the tricky part.Ignored