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  • #11,661
  • Nov 5, 2014 9:00am Nov 5, 2014 9:00am
Quoting forextarget
{quote} can you show a graph that indicates this is T and this is T-h pls thnx
T-h is RZ of T-yes, look back for FX-Jay charts
  • #11,662
  • Nov 5, 2014 9:08am Nov 5, 2014 9:08am
Quoting xixi
{quote} Just noticed some minor bugs. Will add stats as soon as finished fixing these bugs mate {image} {image}
Turns out it's actually not bugs but just old zones haven't been deleted completely or some zones overlapped with others.
Added some statistics to the indicator.
On the frequency, I simply divide (num of zones) / (total bars).
Such calculation could be wrong...
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  • #11,663
  • Nov 5, 2014 9:23am Nov 5, 2014 9:23am
Quoting stt
{quote} good analysis. this shows the stats that is important - how would the trading strategy based on this hypothesis perform. it shows on its own you cant trade based on this "secret" only
I don't think that's necessarily true.

Firstly, the criteria for entry was incomplete. K's recurrence indi gives a general conditional probability. We are trying to trade one price at a time. When the setup for that price occurs, we may need more specific data regarding that price, beyond what happened the last time it was touched. I may see about having the EA look back at the last 100 touches for the specific price in question... to get a better conditional probability before simply entering. As well, it would be nice to know what the max pullback values were on the occurrences that turned out to be recurrent.

Secondly, this may be a product of the M1 environment that makes it less tradable - ATR for M1 is only marginally higher than the spread, and when trying to extract twice that range or more in TP per trade, it is clearly an inadvertent filter. On a higher tf, looking for the same pts is less significant - but if using the same ratio of TP:ATR for the tf, the results should be similar.
  • #11,664
  • Nov 5, 2014 9:38am Nov 5, 2014 9:38am
Quoting xixi
{quote} On the frequency, I simply divide (num of zones) / (total bars). Such calculation could be wrong... {file} {image}
It is the correct procedure.
Thanks for sharing.
k
  • #11,665
  • Edited 10:18am Nov 5, 2014 9:59am | Edited 10:18am
Quoting xixi
{quote} Turns out it's actually not bugs but just old zones haven't been deleted completely or some zones overlapped with others. Added some statistics to the indicator. On the frequency, I simply divide (num of zones) / (total bars). Such calculation could be wrong... {file} {image}
Xixi, thank you for your endeavors in enhancing the fundamental thing - the indicator.

But you are doing things that should be customized at least.

1/ Vertial lines of the focus bar should be switched off/on, if someone needs.
2/ Statistics pad is needful for everyone to see, but there is no need in it all the time. So, could you please enhance it as well by an additional trigger that would allow us to switch it off, if needed.
3/ I think, there would be much more interesting to switch off/on the possibilty of not seeing those TZs, which were completely worked out.

Thanks. D.P.
Hunting High and Low
  • #11,666
  • Nov 5, 2014 12:14pm Nov 5, 2014 12:14pm
Quoting FranklinHood
Hi Everybody, I started reading some pages of this thread yesterday and here's what I've inderstood from it: We choose a h so only 3% of the bars are central bars of a TZ. In order to have a sure TZ, we need to wait to have h bars at the right. A Potential TZ is when the h bars at the right hasn't been formed yet. So 2 possibilites of trading this: *Trade the potential TZ: I can't understand how could you trade these since you have no idea what the next bars will do. *Trade the TZ: You can trade the breakout of a TZ The thing is that potential TZ...
You say that we have no idea what the next bars will do. But you noticed that the potential TZ’s repaint. Now, what have to happen for repainting?
  • #11,667
  • Nov 5, 2014 1:12pm Nov 5, 2014 1:12pm
Quoting FranklinHood
Hi Everybody, I started reading some pages of this thread yesterday and here's what I've inderstood from it: We choose a h so only 3% of the bars are central bars of a TZ. In order to have a sure TZ, we need to wait to have h bars at the right. A Potential TZ is when the h bars at the right hasn't been formed yet. So 2 possibilites of trading this: *Trade the potential TZ: I can't understand how could you trade these since you have no idea what the next bars will do. *Trade the TZ: You can trade the breakout of a TZ The thing is that potential TZ...
Hi Franklin,

"The thing is that potential TZ are not that "rare" than real TZ and they "repaint". "

It is not a problem for me at all. On the contrary! I can`t get enough of those potential TZs. I`m on a different path than those guys here claiming they can trade this transient - recurrent idea profitably. It`s easy to choose a h that we will get 3% real TZs of all the bars. But it`s impossible to fine tune h (and K whatever it is) to have 97% potential h-TZs and only 3% real h-TZs.
We are supposed to trade potential and real TZ`s. So it makes no sense to me to quote (not by you Franklin) consistently that 3% of all bars must be set h-transient. It`s not tradeable for me, I gave up on that concept.
H-potential TZs: the more the better.
H-real TZs: the less the better.
  • #11,668
  • Nov 5, 2014 1:57pm Nov 5, 2014 1:57pm
Quoting FranklinHood
Hi Everybody, I started reading some pages of this thread yesterday and here's what I've inderstood from it: We choose a h so only 3% of the bars are central bars of a TZ. In order to have a sure TZ, we need to wait to have h bars at the right. A Potential TZ is when the h bars at the right hasn't been formed yet. So 2 possibilites of trading this: *Trade the potential TZ: I can't understand how could you trade these since you have no idea what the next bars will do. *Trade the TZ: You can trade the breakout of a TZ The thing is that potential TZ...


Read more of the thread bro. This is why you can't understand at the moment... Also stop by the Transient zone basics thread. Very valuable information there.

Focus on understanding the presented concept first. You will understand the "repainting" PTZ .

Truly brilliant people in here so take the time and DIG up the Jewels!!!

Best thread on FF IMO! Many master teachers showing their skill.
  • #11,669
  • Nov 5, 2014 1:59pm Nov 5, 2014 1:59pm
Quoting xixi
{quote} Turns out it's actually not bugs but just old zones haven't been deleted completely or some zones overlapped with others. Added some statistics to the indicator. On the frequency, I simply divide (num of zones) / (total bars). Such calculation could be wrong... {file} {image}
Hey Xixi really great thank you very much! you really rock
  • #11,670
  • Nov 5, 2014 5:55pm Nov 5, 2014 5:55pm
Hi,

I am new to forex and I have read through the thread and i am not understanding what is being done. I have downloaded xixi tz v5 indicator and i am not sure how to use it.
My strategy is scalping. Can you be so kind to assist me with how to use the indicator and the settings and a step by step guide on how to spot a trade.
Thank you very much
  • #11,671
  • Edited 6:32pm Nov 5, 2014 6:12pm | Edited 6:32pm
Look to get short around Brown lines targeting Blue Lines.

Lines are drawn on unfilled Sub-sequence indi arrows. Not sure if I completely understand the theorem correctly but I have noticed that nearly every one of these lines will get filled eventually(not sure if thats the 93.75% probability mentioned by chief)...

I have also noticed that the SS arrows often turn out to be where TZ's form in the future.
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  • #11,672
  • Nov 5, 2014 6:14pm Nov 5, 2014 6:14pm
Quoting kangeron
Hi, I am new to forex and I have read through the thread and i am not understanding what is being done. I have downloaded xixi tz v5 indicator and i am not sure how to use it. My strategy is scalping. Can you be so kind to assist me with how to use the indicator and the settings and a step by step guide on how to spot a trade. Thank you very much
Sorry to hurt your expectations but that will not happen because you must go through the drill like everyone else. You may discover something no else.....\
To say you read through the thread but did not understand what is ..... is a reflection of your position in the game. So, I think you should take your time. Maybe this thread is not for you. Find another!

This thread is for those ready to dig for gold not those who scan through hoping to find a ready made and polished diamond!!!
  • #11,673
  • Nov 5, 2014 6:51pm Nov 5, 2014 6:51pm
First of all i would like thank

EURUSDD
Kiads
Zelo

Thanks for your contribution here

The Sub Sequence theorem worked in all state , based on the above members contribution + my own idea in the TZ+fractals , it can be predict exact swing turning point (probability 100% i never seen single failure ), I'm not mql4 coder , i tried with R and C++ +excel, looks awesome

I'll post some screens shots soon
  • #11,674
  • Nov 5, 2014 7:00pm Nov 5, 2014 7:00pm
Quoting Eurusdd
{quote} Sorry to hurt your expectations but that will not happen because you must go through the drill like everyone else. You may discover something no else.....\ To say you read through the thread but did not understand what is ..... is a reflection of your position in the game. So, I think you should take your time. Maybe this thread is not for you. Find another! This thread is for those ready to dig for gold not those who scan through hoping to find a ready made and polished diamond!!!
Eurusdd i am sure there are other persons like me who are still trying to grasp the concept and not looking for any handouts. All i asked for is help how to use the indicator that was provided by xixi so that i can start trying to test it. I am pretty sure you were at my level sometime in your life and you needed help as well. I am not looking for any diamond. If someone is willing to try to learn it, who are you to determine if it is for them or even the tread. If i were in your position and i can help, i would help someone who asked for it.
  • #11,675
  • Nov 5, 2014 7:31pm Nov 5, 2014 7:31pm
Quoting kangeron
{quote} Eurusdd i am sure there are other persons like me who are still trying to grasp the concept and not looking for any handouts. All i asked for is help how to use the indicator that was provided by xixi so that i can start trying to test it. I am pretty sure you were at my level sometime in your life and you needed help as well. I am not looking for any diamond. If someone is willing to try to learn it, who are you to determine if it is for them or even the tread. If i were in your position and i can help, i would help someone who asked for...

from what i have understood from the thread the beauty of the system is not necessarily in the indicator, its in the reasoning and the theories behind it. So understand how to find an entry on the indicator will do you no good unless you understand what mathematically is happening. And if you truly understand what is going on I dont think you need any indicators at all(from my understanding, I like you am noob but am trying to learn). My advice would be to download all the TZ PDF on the forum in the attachments and study the process mentioned(stochastic theory, Markov Process & Markov Chains) then i would study FX-Jay Picture about 10 pages back showing visually what we are looking for.
Links to PDF's
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7826380#post7826380
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7823844#post7823844
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7796892#post7796892
(All Thanks To Rahimseven (http://www.forexfactory.com/rahimseven))

Again like EURUSDD said everything required to understand is in the thread, you just need to find it.

Nothing great comes easy...
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  • #11,676
  • Nov 5, 2014 7:33pm Nov 5, 2014 7:33pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} It is the correct procedure. Thanks for sharing. k
Thanks your confirmation mate!

Quoting Dr.Phoenix
{quote} Xixi, thank you for your endeavors in enhancing the fundamental thing - the indicator. But you are doing things that should be customized at least. 1/ Vertial lines of the focus bar should be switched off/on, if someone needs. 2/ Statistics pad is needful for everyone to see, but there is no need in it all the time. So, could you please enhance it as well by an additional trigger that would allow us to switch it off, if needed. 3/ I think, there would be much more interesting to switch off/on the possibilty of not seeing those TZs, which...
Noted your suggestions but I think only 2) is really necessary.

Also, I noticed a minor bug on PTZ stats. That number is not updated correctly.
I will fix bugs and add more features when I have time. Now I must come back to my daily job, much more busy again
  • #11,677
  • Nov 5, 2014 8:28pm Nov 5, 2014 8:28pm
Quoting PiratePip
So understand how to find an entry on the indicator will do you no good unless you understand what mathematically is happening. And if you truly understand what is going on I dont think you need any indicators at all(from my understanding, I like you am noob but am trying to learn).
  • #11,678
  • Nov 5, 2014 8:38pm Nov 5, 2014 8:38pm
Quoting xixi
{quote} Added some statistics to the indicator.
xixi...
Thanks for the great indicator. I'm getting a freaked out display on the AudUsd cross. Vertical lines going back into history.
Any ideas?

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  • #11,679
  • Nov 5, 2014 9:00pm Nov 5, 2014 9:00pm
Quoting spyderman
{quote} xixi... Thanks for the great indicator. I'm getting a freaked out display on the AudUsd cross. Vertical lines going back into history. Any ideas? {image}
Ohh, just noticed these weird vertical lines on my AU chart as well. Other pairs are ok but only AU has this issue.
Will try to fix soon...
  • #11,680
  • Nov 5, 2014 9:07pm Nov 5, 2014 9:07pm
Quoting spyderman
{quote} xixi... Thanks for the great indicator. I'm getting a freaked out display on the AudUsd cross. Vertical lines going back into history. Any ideas? {image}
I don't have those vertical lines with mine. Right click on chart and check the Objects List and delete all the vertical lines. Then see if they come back or not.
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