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  • #1,221
  • Feb 7, 2014 5:09am Feb 7, 2014 5:09am
Quoting eurozo
{quote} Hi Hollowhead and Jaylovin. Somebody asked Bobi for this information on the other thread, but the response was posted to this thread. Zo
Hi Zo - the confusion is that usually there are only two baselines for the other thread - T3 and T4Y. But the post includes monthly baselines for T4F and and T5_103, which only appear in this thread which deals with templates that have a year long baseline - so it is confusing to hear that there are monthly baselines for those templates.
  • #1,222
  • Feb 7, 2014 5:34am Feb 7, 2014 5:34am
Quoting hollowhead
EU T5_103 Long TP 13628.3
TP Hit
  • #1,223
  • Feb 7, 2014 5:35am Feb 7, 2014 5:35am
Quoting hollowhead
{quote} Yep - it looks pretty exhausted at the moment. I'm still holding out for a last gasp for air up before a final dive
Big breath - now dive baby
  • #1,224
  • Edited 11:41am Feb 7, 2014 10:54am | Edited 11:41am
HELLO EVERYONE! I READ THRU THE WHOLE THREAD. It's hard to believe that this is true. I am trying this out since wednesday and things are going well so far. We will see if it holds up long term. the key is in the numbers and the template. I like this indicator. Gives a good picture of the market. Good pippin' great weekend to all.
  • #1,225
  • Feb 7, 2014 1:56pm Feb 7, 2014 1:56pm
Quoting henn9
HELLO EVERYONE! I READ THRU THE WHOLE THREAD. It's hard to believe that this is true. I am trying this out since wednesday and things are going well so far. We will see if it holds up long term. the key is in the numbers and the template. I like this indicator. Gives a good picture of the market. Good pippin' great weekend to all.

i became a believer when Bobi gave us major tops and bottoms to the pip... he hasn't done though for a long time now - busy guy but never seen anything more accurate than this... welcome to the thread
  • #1,226
  • Feb 7, 2014 8:09pm Feb 7, 2014 8:09pm
Hello

THANK YOU Bobi for sharing interesting information about the how price moves. I read whole thread it is like talk with nature and future of price.
THANK YOU abeab starting this thread to help us and providing information. I think the best part of the system is it gives direction and avoid so many bad trades without indicators.peace of mind.
THANK YOU hollohead,jmss59 and others.
unlearning is difficult than learning-that is the key!!
  • #1,227
  • Feb 9, 2014 3:26am Feb 9, 2014 3:26am
My weekly analysis - found it hard this week as there seem to be alot of mixed signals.

AU contiues to throw out some confusing messages. We have an unfinished T5_103 short, which when if it completes will trigger signals potentially down 0.8005. Conversely it triggered a buy on T5_2_2, which could trigger signals up to 0.9365. That's a 1300 pip range. It's going to be interesting working out how to trade.
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  • #1,228
  • Feb 9, 2014 5:44am Feb 9, 2014 5:44am
Quoting jaylovin
{quote} i became a believer when Bobi gave us major tops and bottoms to the pip... he hasn't done though for a long time now - busy guy but never seen anything more accurate than this... welcome to the thread
Thats cool jaylovin. nice to see its working. Its a clean chart and the rules are pretty simple.
  • #1,229
  • Feb 9, 2014 6:19am Feb 9, 2014 6:19am
Dear hollo,can you please check and confirm eur/usd T5-2-2(965) bullish break -I think price travel from below 23.6 to 50 which is from below 1.3409(FXDD)
unlearning is difficult than learning-that is the key!!
  • #1,230
  • Feb 9, 2014 6:35am Feb 9, 2014 6:35am
Quoting sram
Dear hollo,can you please check and confirm eur/usd T5-2-2(965) bullish break -I think price travel from below 23.6 to 50 which is from below 1.3409(FXDD)
This is an old signal. I take the rise from below 23.6% in Dec 13 and the fact that price opened above the 50% signal on 2 Jan 14 to validate the trade (I know others don't). I'm not particulalry married to the signal and I won't lose sleep over whether the trade is right or wrong as Bobi has previously stated EU is going to see 1.44 in 2014.

Trade well

Steve
  • #1,231
  • Edited 8:43am Feb 9, 2014 7:19am | Edited 8:43am
Quoting hollowhead
My weekly analysis - found it hard this week as there seem to be alot of mixed signals. AU contiues to throw out some confusing messages. We have an unfinished T5_103 short, which when if it completes will trigger signals potentially down 0.8005. Conversely it triggered a buy on T5_2_2, which could trigger signals up to 0.9365. That's a 1300 pip range. It's going to be interesting working out how to trade. {image}{image}{image}
HI Dear hollo please check EUR/USD T4F_220 I think we have bull signal and target is 1.36891 and also in AUD/USD if Price touch .86203 in T5_1_103 it will break %50 of T4Y_680 and target is .85055
  • #1,232
  • Feb 9, 2014 8:23am Feb 9, 2014 8:23am
Quoting mehmed92
{quote} HI Dear hollo please check EUR/USD T4F_220 I think we have bull signal and target is 1.36891

i don't see 3689 here.. but i do see 3737 instead.. i don't take this one seriously as its prone to fail
  • #1,233
  • Feb 9, 2014 8:54am Feb 9, 2014 8:54am
Quoting jaylovin
{quote} i don't see 3689 here.. but i do see 3737 instead.. i don't take this one seriously as its prone to fail
Please check again there is no line with number 3737 in T4F_220
  • #1,234
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:25am Feb 9, 2014 10:25am
Quoting mehmed92
{quote} HI Dear hollo please check EUR/USD T4F_220 I think we have bull signal and target is 1.36891 and also in AUD/USD if Price touch .86203 in T5_1_103 it will break %50 of T4Y_680 and target is .85055
Hi mehmed - no this is not a valid EU trade according to T4F rules. T4F is a fail trade. If price fails to reach the target you are pointing out, and reverses below the 100% by 10 pips then there will be a T4F short trade on.

Yes there is a strong chain reaction of trades taking AU down to 0.8005, starting with the T4Y_680 short you are referring to. But there is also a strong chain reaction of trades long - I see the range for AU being big in 2014.
  • #1,235
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:56am Feb 9, 2014 10:56am
Quoting hollowhead
{quote} Hi mehmed - no this is not a valid EU trade according to T4F rules. T4F is a fail trade. If price fails to reach the target you are pointing out, and reverses below the 100% by 10 pips then there will be a T4F short trade on. Yes there is a strong chain reaction of trades taking AU down to 0.8005, starting with the T4Y_680 short you are referring to. But there is also a strong chain reaction of trades long - I see the range for AU being big in 2014.

how much drawdown are you willing to take on a trade? this euro i am looking at may not stop till it gets till 1.3920... i am bearish up to 3690 but after that -
  • #1,236
  • Edited 11:37am Feb 9, 2014 11:06am | Edited 11:37am
Quoting hollowhead
{quote} Hi mehmed - no this is not a valid EU trade according to T4F rules. T4F is a fail trade. If price fails to reach the target you are pointing out, and reverses below the 100% by 10 pips then there will be a T4F short trade on. Yes there is a strong chain reaction of trades taking AU down to 0.8005, starting with the T4Y_680 short you are referring to. But there is also a strong chain reaction of trades long - I see the range for AU being big in 2014.
Hi hollow
in T4F_220 Price after broke %38.2 =1.36050 didn't fall under %100=1.35210 and didn't Fail then price should rich %76.4=1.36891
in AU I couldn't understand what do you mean if it is possible please explain more
  • #1,237
  • Feb 9, 2014 11:56am Feb 9, 2014 11:56am
Quoting jaylovin
{quote} how much drawdown are you willing to take on a trade? this euro i am looking at may not stop till it gets till 1.3920... i am bearish up to 3690 but after that -
I've pretty much taken whatever it takes - I'm currently -250 pips on the AU T5_103 short at the bottom - I think the most I have been is about 600 pips BUT, I am hedged for a decent section of the trade. So if a T5_103 goes against me, it may go 4 phases up before it returns. I will trade those 4 trades up and then trade them down again. So, roughly speaking 4 phase =103x4=412 pips, I will take 4x40 pips up = 160pips (so I am actually only down 252 pips in real terms), but then I trade the three signals down again, 40X3 down=120. I will have made 280pips and I am back fulfilling the original trade with no DD - I am well up. This has happened several times.

I just have to be convinced that the original trade will be filled eventually, and then take the trades up and down to diminish the actuall DD to my account.

It means you trade with smaller lots, but you have no losers and you gain more pips when the original trade goes against you. You need balls of steel and an absolute conviction that the trades are sound, but it has worked for me.

Hope that makes sense.
  • #1,238
  • Feb 9, 2014 12:06pm Feb 9, 2014 12:06pm
Quoting mehmed92
{quote} Hi hollow in T4F_220 Price after broke %38.2 =1.36050 didn't fall under %100=1.35210 and didn't Fail then price should rich %76.4=1.36891 in AU I couldn't understand what do you mean if it is possible please explain more
mehmed - you are right in that Bobi says that if price crosses the 38.2 it should reach 76%, BUT the T4F template is not there to take that trade. It is there to take the failure. It is a trend reversal template. Bobi says if it fails (which you will not know until it reaches the 76% level), then it WILL/MUST reach the opposite target. Question is do you want to take the first 'should' trade or the second 'WILL/MUST' trade.

Now, I have traded the orignal trade as you are suggesting, but I stopped. Why?, because it is prone to fail and I don't like failed trades, since trading abonacci I have had very few (thanks to Bobi), and becasue of how I trade the system (see post above), closing a trade in significant DD will set me back. So I chose to trade it as Bobi designed it - which is to trade the reversal/failiure.

What I mean by a chain reaction is that completing the T5_103, will trigger a T4Y_680 short, completing that will trigger another short on another template, and then that will trigger another and then another all the way down to 0.8005. I can't remember the actual trades triggered beyond the T4Y_680, but I am pretty sure it worked out that way when I checked.
  • #1,239
  • Feb 9, 2014 12:20pm Feb 9, 2014 12:20pm
Quoting hollowhead
{quote} mehmed - you are right in that Bobi says that if price crosses the 38.2 it should reach 76%, BUT the T4F template is not there to take that trade. It is there to take the failure. It is a trend reversal template. Bobi says if it fails (which you will not know until it reaches the 76% level), then it WILL/MUST reach the opposite target. Question is do you want to take the first 'should' trade or the second 'WILL/MUST' trade. Now, I have traded the orignal trade as you are suggesting, but I stopped. Why?, because it is prone to fail and I...
Thank you so much dear hollow for your completely answer
  • #1,240
  • Feb 9, 2014 12:25pm Feb 9, 2014 12:25pm
Quoting mehmed92
{quote} Thank you so much dear hollow for your completely answer
No problem.
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