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  • #61
  • Mar 11, 2013 6:19am Mar 11, 2013 6:19am
Dear car dealers,

I have been reading a few of your posts and must say that every time you drop in them the fact that you trade over a million dollar account and each of your trades are worth cars, I find myself slowly starting to fall in love with you. I hope this letter doesn't come across as too forward but maybe one day we can go together?

I eagerly await some posts with some actual substance.

Love
Cindy xoxoxo
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  • #62
  • Mar 11, 2013 6:20am Mar 11, 2013 6:20am
Quoting CindyXXXX
Dear car dealers,

I have been reading a few of your posts and must say that every time you drop in them the fact that you trade over a million dollar account and each of your trades are worth cars, I find myself slowly starting to fall in love with you. I hope this letter doesn't come across as too forward but maybe one day we can go together?

I eagerly await some posts with some actual substance.

Love
Cindy xoxoxo
I find it my moral obligation to tell you I am not a chick
Stop or target...
  • #63
  • Mar 11, 2013 6:21am Mar 11, 2013 6:21am
Quoting CindyXXXX
Dear car dealers,

I have been reading a few of your posts and must say that every time you drop in them the fact that you trade over a million dollar account and each of your trades are worth cars, I find myself slowly starting to fall in love with you. I hope this letter doesn't come across as too forward but maybe one day we can go together?

I eagerly await some posts with some actual substance.

Love
Cindy xoxoxo
We love you too Cindy
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #64
  • Mar 11, 2013 6:22am Mar 11, 2013 6:22am
[quote=CindyXXXX;6505445]Dear car dealers,

I have been reading a few of your posts and must say that every time you drop in them the fact that you trade over a million dollar account and each of your trades are worth cars, I find myself slowly starting to fall in love with you.


Hi cindyxxxx, i love him too lol brm brm
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #65
  • Mar 11, 2013 6:38am Mar 11, 2013 6:38am
Quoting CindyXXXX
Dear car dealers,

I have been reading a few of your posts and must say that every time you drop in them the fact that you trade over a million dollar account and each of your trades are worth cars, I find myself slowly starting to fall in love with you. I hope this letter doesn't come across as too forward but maybe one day we can go together?

I eagerly await some posts with some actual substance.

Love
Cindy xoxoxo
brilliant...

intraday Trading in the direction of the previous days close... there's an edge, and I gave it away

(purely to keep cindy happy as she/he, whatever is awaiting substance)
tradewith60
  • #66
  • Mar 11, 2013 6:41am Mar 11, 2013 6:41am
mmmm....
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  • #67
  • Mar 11, 2013 6:59am Mar 11, 2013 6:59am
Thanks really feeling the love, but it's the shady car dealers my heart is with, sorry chaps.

You can call me Him, 60MM and I notice a nice recovery there on your equity curve after a (I can imagine) pretty stressful Friday for you. I have bee reading your charts a bit. Reminds me of a simple system I call "Blade running"..

Where basically when the "Weaker trend" starts beating the "Stronger Trend" (going by time frames) the you consiider that it must be a trend change and just start trading that new trend until once again the weaker trend starts beating the stronger trend. Is this the same logic you work with?

Here we go my contribution to the thread... A fun one to mess around with on a tester, very simple but works well.

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Go and sell it on Ebay or something
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  • #68
  • Mar 11, 2013 7:06am Mar 11, 2013 7:06am
yeah it was thursday that killed me... went from 28% gain for the week to -8%, recovering to 11% at the end of the week...

4 out of 5 days i remain disciplined but i usually have 1 momentous fuck up day a week still.

Still remember when i used to have 5 a week though so cant complain! lool

But I deliberately keep my account small and remove profits at the end of every month.
tradewith60
  • #69
  • Mar 11, 2013 7:14am Mar 11, 2013 7:14am
Cindy I do a lot of messing around with all sorts of ideas, but its a proper understanding of the multi tf sr cycle that makes me consistent...

thats all that you really need then anything can be made to work.. and that's fact, not opinion

good monday, i always have good mondays
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  • #70
  • Mar 11, 2013 7:24am Mar 11, 2013 7:24am
Quoting CindyXXXX
Thanks really feeling the love, but it's the shady car dealers my heart is with, sorry chaps.

You can call me Him, 60MM and I notice a nice recovery there on your equity curve after a (I can imagine) pretty stressful Friday for you. I have bee reading your charts a bit. Reminds me of a simple system I call "Blade running"..

Where basically when the "Weaker trend" starts beating the "Stronger Trend" (going by time frames) the you consiider that it must be a trend change and just start trading that new trend until once again the weaker...

Cool cindyxxx...

so... what is really going on here is daily trending down (closing below daily s/r) until it reaches a weekly s/r.

At each daily low and high you could wait for h4 to start closing over h4 s/r to signal the move to the other daily sr is coming.
tradewith60
  • #71
  • Mar 11, 2013 8:26am Mar 11, 2013 8:26am
Quoting 60minuteman
Cool cindyxxx...

so... what is really going on here is daily trending down (closing below daily s/r) until it reaches a weekly s/r.

At each daily low and high you could wait for h4 to start closing over h4 s/r to signal the move to the other daily sr is coming.
OK, with the chart I showed I work by the notion of orders and order strength. One could assume that a daily Trend line will have (should have) many more sell orders on it than the say H1 uptrend line has buy orders. IF... that is, the down trend is still to be "in tact". If those Daily orders are struggling to break intra day/ intra week orders then there is surely some serious buying going on.

Your method, although I understand the logic, still confuses me a bit as the S/R zones you choose are surely quite subjective? Maybe not? Need to look at them some more. Time frames are just cut up fragments of the same thing which is why I prefer to think in terms of orders, but I guess its the same thing at the end of the day.

I'd like to master the structure as a better way to hold perhaps a more convincing and less subjective longer term bias whilst I taking my normal entries at small risk, shooting for the longer term (larger gain) momentum. Anyway thanks for sharing your stuff. It's been a long time since I've considered learning something new from someone else. Cheers again.
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  • #72
  • Mar 11, 2013 8:55am Mar 11, 2013 8:55am
Quoting CindyXXXX
OK, with the chart I showed I work by the notion of orders and order strength. One could assume that a daily Trend line will have (should have) many more sell orders on it than the say H1 uptrend line has buy orders. IF... that is, the down trend is still to be "in tact". If those Daily orders are struggling to break intra day/ intra week orders then there is surely some serious buying going on.

Your method, although I understand the logic, still confuses me a bit as the S/R zones you choose are surely quite subjective? Maybe not? Need to look...
you're definitely in the right ball park... higher tf s/r will be the thing to stop a trend, thats fact and it is what always happens, sometimes news will be an exception, but usually that will only spike to higher tf s/r


with regards TF's.... higher tf's just can and do have more orders placed on them, for many reasons, so that in itself makes them stronger s/r..

with regards s/r being subjective, i'm going to strongly disagree on that one, and i'll tell you why... Every high and low on any bar, any tf is s/r. If we know price is going to stop at a weekly s/r then all we need do is watch the next weekly s/r. If that next weekly s/r is invalidated we watch the next level and so on...
So... what I am saying is s/r is not subjective but knowing wether to trade them or not needs more information.

For long term bias i just use the daily weekly... if daily has turned and closed over daily s/r i just target the next weekly s/r and go to lower tf's to trade it, would you like a current example?.... i could explain it all but then everyone will be car dealers and we dont want that
tradewith60
  • #73
  • Mar 11, 2013 9:36am Mar 11, 2013 9:36am
Quoting genie
hey man, no worries, that was not what I meant, but I know the vast majority here do not make money. I just had the suspicion that you laughed at the car comment because you may think no one can really get 'rich' in forex, which may capture the mindset of the majority of traders here, hence their results. I know a positive mindset is the most important aspect of trading and if you don't believe then you wont get far. that's all.
Nah mate, I wasn't mocking you; Just hadn't heard someone describe their PnL like that before, hehe! Peace bro.
Most people have the will to win, few have the will to prepare to win
  • #74
  • Mar 11, 2013 10:50am Mar 11, 2013 10:50am
Quoting 60minuteman
i could explain it all but then everyone will be car dealers and we dont want that
Keep your blade in your sheath Sir, I'll work it out.
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  • #75
  • Mar 11, 2013 10:54am Mar 11, 2013 10:54am
Quoting genie
im not sure what is funny here. per trade I only risk 1%. you can figure the rest out yourself.

and as to giving my edge away, people here will laugh and immediately dimiss it. why? because it goes against all conventional "rules". low timeframe, no s/r, etc. but hey, it works for me and im happy with my profits while the rest of you are still consistently losing money. but what im really strict on is MM, all my winners get more than 1:1 on average AND I win more than I lose
Lol. Thanks for the laugh. I love guys like this. I knew a guy when I was 8, always telling brilliant stories about the incredible things he was getting up to when no one was looking. Of course, we all knew he was full of horse manure, but I remember really enjoying his stories and thinking it funny that he needed to tell them to feel better about himself.
  • #76
  • Mar 11, 2013 11:23am Mar 11, 2013 11:23am
Quoting Roofx
Lol. Thanks for the laugh. I love guys like this. I knew a guy when I was 8, always telling brilliant stories about the incredible things he was getting up to when no one was looking. Of course, we all knew he was full of horse manure, but I remember really enjoying his stories and thinking it funny that he needed to tell them to feel better about himself.
Only one question to ponder Roo... Why?


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  • #77
  • Mar 11, 2013 12:05pm Mar 11, 2013 12:05pm
Quoting 60minuteman
brilliant..(good that we can all retain a sense of humour, winners or losers)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qULhtWvFUpE
We're all winners till we're not 60MM... This is something I have learned through the school of hard knox. Only as good as our last trade, or week, or month. Every now and then I like to take myself down a few notches and become a novice at a new sort of level. One day I hope this philosophy will take me to very high heights. Too easy to get comfortable and ego trip I find.

How long have you been trading if you don;t mind me asking?

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Has this thread deteriorated to you tube clips yet? Too soon? ... I can change!



EDIT: Oops you deleted that one! post still stands I'm afraid!
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  • #78
  • Mar 11, 2013 12:12pm Mar 11, 2013 12:12pm
i think about three and a half years trading... Luckily somebody spent a lot of time on skype helping me, that saved me from a lot more pain.

I get your point, does seem that traders that reach any level of competence just become bashers and haters on here, anyone over 3 years on FF gets a bit bitter and twisted towards newbs... (so i took the post down, was meant in good humour but was a bit nasty i guess. don't wanna fuck with my good karma!)
tradewith60
  • #79
  • Mar 11, 2013 12:37pm Mar 11, 2013 12:37pm
Quoting 60minuteman
i think about three and a half years trading... Luckily somebody spent a lot of time on skype helping me, that saved me from a lot more pain.

I get your point, does seem that traders that reach any level of competence just become bashers and haters on here, anyone over 3 years on FF gets a bit bitter and twisted towards newbs... (so i took the post down, was meant in good humour but was a bit nasty i guess. don't wanna fuck with my good karma!)
Well too late son... too late... I joke..!

Ah, I wouldn't invest any money with your volatile ass yet, but recepeta all the same. Keep me fed, cheers.

+1 for mentors then... fk it have a vouch. Honesty is King.
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  • #80
  • Mar 11, 2013 3:11pm Mar 11, 2013 3:11pm
Quoting CindyXXXX
Well too late son... too late... I joke..!

Ah, I wouldn't invest any money with your volatile ass yet, but recepeta all the same. Keep me fed, cheers.

+1 for mentors then... fk it have a vouch. Honesty is King.
what a beautiful love story you started genie with your cardealership. Look what a lovely couple minuteman & cindy.

Who says cardealers are good for nothing. I would give you a vouch if i could
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