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  • #5,621
  • Feb 16, 2012 2:59pm Feb 16, 2012 2:59pm
Quoting comer
Yep, and they are quite current too - the recoded indicators are there already
Yes, comer, those Russians are pretty damn fast! And the favorite Russian expression is: "You snooze, you lose!"
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #5,622
  • Feb 16, 2012 3:10pm Feb 16, 2012 3:10pm
Quoting Evaluator
Comer,

I have setup the two side by side and have input the same values for each and the results are not lining up. Are there different values needed for the two values on your clean up of the Symphonie Extreme versus the original Symphonie Extreme?

Evaluator.:nerd:
Yes, that's why I said - they are not exactly the same. Does your car drive exactly the same at exactly the same gas pedal position after a tune up and an oil change? It drives smoother, faster, right?
Symphonie_Extreme_Cycle_Indikator

uses an SMA(250) of the (High-Low) as a measure

Extreme_Spike

uses ATR(250) (ATR is EMA(250) of the (High-Low) in case of forex)

They will not produce the same value. Close, but not exactly.

Symphonie_Extreme_Cycle_Indikator

uses "ZeroLag(12) of SMMA(1) of Close" as a price

Extreme_Spike

uses Close

They will not produce the same value. Close, but not exactly.

Could you not look to make the input values exact, but at the result they produce, please?
If it catches the major and minor turning points - that's all that matters, right?
  • #5,623
  • Feb 16, 2012 3:12pm Feb 16, 2012 3:12pm
Quoting Favorite
Yes, comer, those Russians are pretty damn fast! And the favorite Russian expression is: "You snooze, you lose!"
Can't argue with that!
  • #5,624
  • Feb 16, 2012 3:46pm Feb 16, 2012 3:46pm
Quoting comer
Sure, no problem
First - the bar spacing on your chart is larger than on mine - that's why histograms have black gaps. Either reduce the spacing (hit "-") or increase the histogram width (indicator properties -> color -> change width).
Second - I don't use use *line version of indicators - so remove those (MA_lines and/or Stochastic_lines). Remember - for Symphonie all you need is 4 indicators.
Third - set "Collapse" to "true" for Fisher Transform.
Fourth - I see you have both MA_cross and Reverse_Stochastic. Choose one and remove the other.
Done!...
Thank you will do now and let you know..

Cheers

SR
  • #5,625
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:08pm Feb 16, 2012 4:08pm
Quoting realjumper
If you had read the thread.....you would already have all the answers to your questions......but no.....lately a lot of newbies are just jumping in and asking the same old questions and raising the same old issues that have been THOROUGHLY dealt before...several times.

I for one, will no longer help you people. I have just made it very clear...ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE.....that you need to READ THE THREAD.

If you can't be bothered reading, I can't be bothered helping you.

RJ
first of all my friend realjumper i said that i an new to trading i dont understand why you said it again, maybe because you are too good and want to show yourself.......secondly i dont know if you were born GOD but i was born human and yes i have some questions is that bad?...Ofcourse i read the the post 1 and the pdf file and the tips from post#1 etc to read 5500 post from the start i think you know its a little difficult as i just entered to this forum.....my questions were from the post #1 or we cant have question from post#1....if you dont want to answer to newbies as you said then dont reply at all i dont understand why you have to get mad about some questions and show yourself....and yes i still have a questions because i see that simphonie signal v1.8 doesnt refresh ?? so i cant rely on this indikator...it would be difficult for you if you answer this question??? instead of just talking......
  • #5,626
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:19pm Feb 16, 2012 4:19pm
Quoting yelena
im so happy im not the only one taking those trades. i feel so alone coz everyone's with EU.

disclaimer: I AM A NOOB SO PLEASE DO NOT TRUST MY RECO. demo trading experience, 6 months. live trading experience, barely 1 week. :nerd:

but i did my due diligence: a lot of back testing using LFH trading simulator of which tester can place and take out orders based on chosen indicators. so the feeling of live trading is as real as it can get. 24 hours move in 10-15mins (time-and-motion study) including my fibo drawings, pauses for analysis, rantings,...
I would like to trade the Kiwi and the Aussie, and perhaps I should, I just hate the large spreads on those pairs.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,627
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:24pm Feb 16, 2012 4:24pm
Quoting silahim
first of all my friend realjumper i said that i an new to trading i dont understand why you said it again, maybe because you are too good and want to show yourself.......secondly i dont know if you were born GOD but i was born human and yes i have some questions is that bad?...Ofcourse i read the the post 1 and the pdf file and the tips from post#1 etc to read 5500 post from the start i think you know its a little difficult as i just entered to this forum.....my questions were from the post #1 or we cant have question from post#1....if you dont...
RJ was just simply saying that newbies were asking the same questions over and over and that if you look hard enough the questions have been answerd many times before.

I have one wish, please keep this thread free from arguments and use the energy to to learn and evolve as a trader. we have a nice community and always willing to help people that have done their homework.

Happy trading to all
Thank You James16, Fijitrader, Mbqb1, ghous, Pinbar and Jarroo. cpfleger
  • #5,628
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:27pm Feb 16, 2012 4:27pm
What would be the best time frame to for a beginner using this system? I have been demoing on M5 but I find myself micro managing too much.
  • #5,629
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:27pm Feb 16, 2012 4:27pm
Quoting comer
Quoting Evaluator
P.S. Will you take the cleaned up version and make a Symphonie Matrix version 2 from it?
It is not on my list. I use Symphonie the "old fashion" way - the indicators don't take too much space in histogram form and I get the additional information out of the spike repainting "play" .
On the other hand - I had a little time so here you go
It is not cleaned up. All I did was adapted it to the new indicators. It uses "Reverse_Stochastic" for "Emotion" since it is the standard.
You need the Extreme_Spike, Fisher_Transform_Histogram and Extreme_Spike in your "indicators" folder.
Please "evaluate" (:nerd:blush: with caution.

Play safe!
Comer
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File Type: mq4 Symphonie Matrix Indikator _v2.0.mq4   13 KB | 652 downloads
  • #5,630
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:32pm Feb 16, 2012 4:32pm
Quoting SnailRoll
What would be the best time frame to for a beginner using this system? I have been demoing on M5 but I find myself micro managing too much.
It might pay you to demo on the 15m as I know this works well with this time frame with less trades especialy how the market is at the moment... but might suite your trading style better. Give it a go and see how you get on.
Thank You James16, Fijitrader, Mbqb1, ghous, Pinbar and Jarroo. cpfleger
  • #5,631
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:34pm Feb 16, 2012 4:34pm
Quoting comer
On the other hand - I had a little time so here you go
It is not cleaned up. All I did was adapted it to the new indicators. It uses "Reverse_Stochastic" for "Emotion" since it is the standard.
You need the Extreme_Spike, Fisher_Transform_Histogram and Extreme_Spike in your "indicators" folder.
Please "evaluate" (:nerd:blush: with caution.

Play safe!
Comer
Awesome work Comer! I assume the matrix version will not show different colour to possible repaint but only show red blue result of the newer indicators.
  • #5,632
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:37pm Feb 16, 2012 4:37pm
Quoting silahim
first of all my friend realjumper i said that i an new to trading i dont understand why you said it again, maybe because you are too good and want to show yourself.......secondly i dont know if you were born GOD but i was born human and yes i have some questions is that bad?...Ofcourse i read the the post 1 and the pdf file and the tips from post#1 etc to read 5500 post from the start i think you know its a little difficult as i just entered to this forum.....my questions were from the post #1 or we cant have question from post#1....if you dont...
So you tell me why there are so many successful traders here and all they have done is read and applied what they have read in post #1 and they have had the PATIENCE and RESPECT to read the forum and guess what.....THEY HAVE LEARNED.

Would it be difficult for me to answer you questions?......no, not at all......would it be difficult for you to READ THE FORUM???.......apparently so. I WILL NOT help those of you who won't help yourself because I am SICK AND TIRED of answering the same questions every day, because people like to are just too damn lazy to spend a little time reading.......and that laziness will prevent you from ever becoming a good trader.

Congratulations.......you are the first person in this forum to make it onto my Ignore list.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,633
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:42pm Feb 16, 2012 4:42pm
Quoting SnailRoll
What would be the best time frame to for a beginner using this system? I have been demoing on M5 but I find myself micro managing too much.
SnailRoll,

People usually experiment on different time frames until they find the one that they really feel comfortable with. If you don't feel all that comfortable with the 5M, maybe you need to move up gradually until you do.

The best thing any beginner can do is trade very small lots to remove the stress of losing so that the focus remains on managing the trades and learning. Chart time will give you confidence in the long run.
  • #5,634
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:43pm Feb 16, 2012 4:43pm
Quoting comer
On the other hand - I had a little time so here you go
It is not cleaned up. All I did was adapted it to the new indicators. It uses "Reverse_Stochastic" for "Emotion" since it is the standard.
You need the Extreme_Spike, Fisher_Transform_Histogram and Extreme_Spike in your "indicators" folder.
Please "evaluate" (:nerd:blush: with caution.

Play safe!
Comer
WOW again.......you are a fast worker!!! Thank you for Matrix.....I will install this and watch closely.....kinda like Noda!!!

Many thanks,
RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #5,635
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:44pm Feb 16, 2012 4:44pm
Quoting SnailRoll
What would be the best time frame to for a beginner using this system? I have been demoing on M5 but I find myself micro managing too much.
I think it depends on your trading style and preferences. I'm not a newbie, but I just started trading this system, so I decided to concentrate on one timeframe and one currency only until I master the system. I use new comer's indicators on M1 EURUSD and today I was doing just fine. Of course, it was a good trending day, but nevertheless...
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #5,636
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:44pm Feb 16, 2012 4:44pm
Quoting SnailRoll
What would be the best time frame to for a beginner using this system? I have been demoing on M5 but I find myself micro managing too much.
I'd say - no lower than H1. Based on personal experience
I have seen sources suggesting D1 for at least a few months to learn a new system or a method. To me it is too slow - you may not get signal for days. And the slower I get the signals - the slower I train in using them. Whereas using H1 or H4 you only need to wait a few hours and those few hours is quite enough time (for me) to read the news and analyze the situation.
  • #5,637
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:47pm Feb 16, 2012 4:47pm
Quoting SnailRoll
Awesome work Comer! I assume the matrix version will not show different colour to possible repaint but only show red blue result of the newer indicators.
Thank you. And you are correct
  • #5,638
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:49pm Feb 16, 2012 4:49pm
Quoting realjumper
WOW again.......you are a fast worker!!! Thank you for Matrix.....I will install this and watch closely.....kinda like Noda!!!

Many thanks,
RJ
I don't know Noda, but I'll take it as a compliment
Thank you!
  • #5,639
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:51pm Feb 16, 2012 4:51pm
Quoting comer
On the other hand - I had a little time so here you go
It is not cleaned up. All I did was adapted it to the new indicators. It uses "Reverse_Stochastic" for "Emotion" since it is the standard.
You need the Extreme_Spike, Fisher_Transform_Histogram and Extreme_Spike in your "indicators" folder.
Please "evaluate" (:nerd:blush: with caution.

Play safe!
Comer
BIG WOW!

Comer, you are faster than those Russians!

Thanks a lot!
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #5,640
  • Feb 16, 2012 4:52pm Feb 16, 2012 4:52pm
Quoting SnailRoll
What would be the best time frame to for a beginner using this system? I have been demoing on M5 but I find myself micro managing too much.
As you can see.....the answer to your question is not an easy one. All you can do is keep trying different time frames until you find one that suits. In your position, you have found M5 unsuitable, so I would go the next step up to M15 and try that. If that's not suitable either, try M30...then H1, H4 etc etc. Just experiment (on demo) until you find something that suits you
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
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