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  • #3,681
  • Dec 19, 2011 5:37pm Dec 19, 2011 5:37pm
Quoting ohammond
Then I don't understand how you saw so many spikes today on the 5min?
Another spike on EU. Just scalping tp 10 pip. I saw the spike arround 1.3013

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  • #3,682
  • Dec 19, 2011 5:39pm Dec 19, 2011 5:39pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Another spike on EU. Just scalping tp 10 pip. I saw the spike arround 1.3013

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Thats great, but you must have different settings to the ones I have because there hasnt been a spike on mine for ages.
  • #3,683
  • Dec 19, 2011 5:55pm Dec 19, 2011 5:55pm
Quoting ohammond
Thats great, but you must have different settings to the ones I have because there hasnt been a spike on mine for ages.
Today spike on EU. Attach is MA Median Bollinger. That another indi i use.

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  • #3,684
  • Edited 6:37pm Dec 19, 2011 5:57pm | Edited 6:37pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Another spike on EU. Just scalping tp 10 pip. I saw the spike arround 1.3013

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Ha, ha, very funny.

234 wins, no losses.

Absolute drawdown 0.00.

Maximal drawdown 0.00.

Relative drawdown 0.00.

What a joke.
  • #3,685
  • Dec 19, 2011 5:58pm Dec 19, 2011 5:58pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Today spike on EU. Attach is MA Median Bollinger. That another indi i use.

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Setting for Symphonie Spikes

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  • #3,686
  • Dec 19, 2011 6:02pm Dec 19, 2011 6:02pm
Quoting mangala
Ha, ha, very funny.

243 wins, no losses.

Absolute drawdown 0.00.

Maximal drawdown 0.00.

Relative drawdown 0.00.

What a joke.
Not kidding but that is a real. Just scalping for tp 10 pip.
  • #3,687
  • Dec 19, 2011 6:09pm Dec 19, 2011 6:09pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Not kidding but that is a real. Just scalping for tp 10 pip.
Just trying to understand your trades, I put the indie on my chart and can see 13 spikes roughly, so how does that equate to 244 trades, thats whats puzzling me.
  • #3,688
  • Dec 19, 2011 6:23pm Dec 19, 2011 6:23pm
Quoting ohammond
Just trying to understand your trades, I put the indie on my chart and can see 13 spikes roughly, so how does that equate to 244 trades, thats whats puzzling me.
I saw in my charts the spike zarrmansfx talked about at 1.3010 and one after that, plus a bunch more before those two. So maybe you should reload the indicator.


Zarrmansfx, you should be exhausted by now, 243 trades . I am very impressed.
  • #3,689
  • Edited 6:37pm Dec 19, 2011 6:23pm | Edited 6:37pm
Quoting ohammond
Just trying to understand your trades, I put the indie on my chart and can see 13 spikes roughly, so how does that equate to 244 trades, thats whats puzzling me.
Ohammond,

This is a joke.

Statements can be saved and then edited.

The statement does not show the trades.

The summary of the statement shows 234 wins and no losses.

The biggest give away that this is fake is the summary says that the drawdown was zero. It is impossible to have that many trades without any drawdown. Infact it is impossible to have 10 trades in a row without drawdown.

The indicators repaint, i.e. they continuosly change the signals.

In short, the statement is fake.
  • #3,690
  • Dec 19, 2011 6:37pm Dec 19, 2011 6:37pm
Quoting bcarbon
I saw in my charts the spike zarrmansfx talked about at 1.3010 and one after that, plus a bunch more before those two. So maybe you should reload the indicator.


Zarrmansfx, you should be exhausted by now, 243 trades . I am very impressed.
Im only open position when the spike red or blue (sell/buy) at TF 5minute,
stoch cross down from top / cross up from bottom. No open position if minor spike. Only major spike. (if spike arround 1.3001 im waitin for more move arround 5 pip... just enter when price touch 1.3006++
  • #3,691
  • Dec 19, 2011 6:47pm Dec 19, 2011 6:47pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
Im only open position when the spike red or blue (sell/buy) at TF 5minute,
stoch cross down from top / cross up from bottom. No open position if minor spike. Only major spike. (if spike arround 1.3001 im waitin for more move arround 5 pip... just enter when price touch 1.3006++
So what you are saying is, if there is a major spike but stochastics don't agree, you won't take the trade?
  • #3,692
  • Dec 19, 2011 6:54pm Dec 19, 2011 6:54pm
Quoting mangala
In short, the statement is fake.
I have a hypothesis. I apologize 1000 times to zarrmansfx if I'm wrong.

It's not a fake but - sorry to be harsh - the way he trades is completely useless.

He enters a trade with 10 pip TP and no SL whenever there is a spike. If the spike repaints, he enters another trade. The experimental version (not to be used with the post#1 rules) paints the extremes very frequently. A 48 bar low or high does, then the spike 'moves' as the price goes further, candle by candle. Within a single move, he could easily enter several dozen trades, especially if the market was drifting slowly in one direction. His only exit is the 10 pip TP. Other kind of exit does not exist

Because the price spent the whole day in an almost perfect rectangular range, all his trades finally hit the target. If the market went one way, he would be left with an army of losing trades suffering increasing floating drawdown.

Btw the drawdown specified in any MT4 account statement doesn't reflect floating DD (like in EA backtests).. only closed losers are reflected. I believe he didn't have any yesterday. A trending day comes and this 'method' blows the entire account or the most of it (depending on margin call % policy of the br0ker). As this 'method' provides zero edge and (due to spread) a negative expectancy, no kind of money/risk management can make it profitable in the long run, with changing mkt conditions.
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  • #3,693
  • Dec 19, 2011 7:00pm Dec 19, 2011 7:00pm
Quoting MaryJane
I have a hypothesis. I apologize 1000 times to zarrmansfx if I'm wrong.

It's not a fake but - sorry to be harsh - the way he trades is completely useless.

He enters a trade with 10 pip TP and no SL whenever there is a spike. If the spike repaints, he enters another trade. The experimental version (not to be used with the post#1 rules) paints the extremes very frequently. A 48 bar low or high does, then the spike 'moves' as the price goes further, candle by candle. Within a single move, he could easily...
I was thinking it had to be something like that, never could you get 243 trades on EU today without doing it.
  • #3,694
  • Dec 19, 2011 7:23pm Dec 19, 2011 7:23pm
Quoting ohammond
I was thinking it had to be something like that, never could you get 243 trades on EU today without doing it.
even the "by M5 rules" 50 pip stops could survive in yesterday's EU range - the entire day was just 61 pips! but imagine a load of them stops popping one after another if the market took a breath.

goodnight. 4am here
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  • #3,695
  • Dec 19, 2011 7:28pm Dec 19, 2011 7:28pm
Quoting mangala
Ohammond,

This is a joke.

Statements can be saved and then edited.

The statement does not show the trades.

The summary of the statement shows 234 wins and no losses.

The biggest give away that this is fake is the summary says that the drawdown was zero. It is impossible to have that many trades without any drawdown. Infact it is impossible to have 10 trades in a row without drawdown.

The indicators repaint, i.e. they continuosly change the signals.

In short, the statement is fake.
I dont know how to make people trust me!
So, i give the link for checking monitoring statistic at broker website.
Thankyou very much for everythings. No more discussion!!



https://www.exness.com/monitor/real_account/65933

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  • #3,696
  • Dec 19, 2011 7:33pm Dec 19, 2011 7:33pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
I dont know how to make people trust me!
So, i give the link for checking monitoring statistic at broker website.
Thankyou very much for everythings. No more discussion!!



https://www.exness.com/monitor/real_account/65933

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With that track record, I would be increasing the lot size, and keeping away from FF...
It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #3,697
  • Dec 19, 2011 7:43pm Dec 19, 2011 7:43pm
Quoting Erebus
With that track record, I would be increasing the lot size, and keeping away from FF...
Hahahaha!!!!

This is a joke.

Statements can be saved and then edited.

The statement does not show the trades.

The summary of the statement shows 234 wins and no losses.

The biggest give away that this is fake is the summary says that the drawdown was zero. It is impossible to have that many trades without any drawdown. Infact it is impossible to have 10 trades in a row without drawdown.

The indicators repaint, i.e. they continuosly change the signals.

In short, the statement is fake. (DONT FOLLOW THAT INDICATOR)

HAHAHAHA!!!!

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  • #3,698
  • Dec 19, 2011 8:49pm Dec 19, 2011 8:49pm
Quoting MaryJane
I have a hypothesis. I apologize 1000 times to zarrmansfx if I'm wrong.

It's not a fake but - sorry to be harsh - the way he trades is completely useless.


A trending day comes and this 'method' blows the entire account or the most of it (depending on margin call % policy of the br0ker). As this 'method' provides zero edge and (due to spread) a negative expectancy, no kind of money/risk management can make it profitable in the long run, with changing mkt conditions.
I somewhat agree with you. This way of trading works in a ranging market which is what we had today. Zarrmansfx discover his profitable way of trading for a ranging market. For a trending market we use something else. We need few tricks under the sleeve in order to rob "the beast".
Zarrmansfx tripled his account in on day trading that way. I think I could learn few things from him. When it comes to trading, I have a very open mind. (lurking)
  • #3,699
  • Dec 19, 2011 10:32pm Dec 19, 2011 10:32pm
Quoting zarrmansfx
I dont know how to make people trust me!
So, i give the link for checking monitoring statistic at broker website.
Thankyou very much for everythings. No more discussion!!



https://www.exness.com/monitor/real_account/65933

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Extremely well done for proving the point, it may not be everyone's way of trading, but it was extremely well done.
  • #3,700
  • Dec 19, 2011 11:08pm Dec 19, 2011 11:08pm
I have tried to use the experimental indi before. It has too much spikes.
At the end i dump it.

Stick back to indis in post 1 and learn to trade with it.
Watch the SR levels in M15. My tip for trading this so successfully is identifying SR levels in the M15 chart. I draw my SR levels at candle bodies NOT wicks.
Price usually respect the SR at candle bodies.

U can still be profitable using the post 1 template.

My statement.
http://screencast.com/t/qwGXQKSufz

This week i am trading mini lots until Friday, after that no FX until January.
Pivot Boss in the making~
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