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  • #6,021
  • Oct 31, 2011 2:27pm Oct 31, 2011 2:27pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Yes. Those are evolution steps in evolving those waves.That was kinda my point.

Next point is, there are totally different waves in FX market, Futures market, Equity market, whatever. It is because there are different investor crowds. Different behaviour, different waves.

Edit: Moreover. Now I saw you wrote "technical". It is technical tool to measure psychological behaviour. Psychology aint having strict rules and is evolving.

T.

Quoting infinitus
Hi Tom,

sorry, but the waves are not different in different markets. There are impuls-waves (motive waves) followed by corrective waves. We have about one hand full of different motive waves and 3 hand full of different corrective waves. The markets essential form is 5 waves to progress and 3 waves to regress.

The only big difference I see in different markets is between Gold and the rest, since in currencies, stocks or whatever wave 5 is carried by greed and in Gold wave 5 is a reflection of panic.

You wrote: "Psychology aint having...
Difficult..

But .. ah.. difficult

u know the rational is.. all any type of markets are.. THE OVERBOUGHT and THE OVERSOUGHT IS STILL RATIONAL AND LOGIC...

Ew is not enough to analysis by itself alone, me.. i believe

Let me say this
Mr Elliott works is more gives priority to price compare to time instead of Mr Gann is more concerned to the time by in his works

and The law of chart and Market behaviour i have to considered too
  • #6,022
  • Oct 31, 2011 2:28pm Oct 31, 2011 2:28pm
Quoting RamsesII
I think the markets could be putting in some sort of top here... the degree of the top will be determined by the impulsivity (or not) of the move down. The bear in me favours the iii of 3 count and the alternate the top being wave i of an ending diagonal 5th.

hi ramsesII.. this is nice analysis... good
  • #6,023
  • Oct 31, 2011 2:31pm Oct 31, 2011 2:31pm
Quoting longshot_nl
I don't trade every setup anymore.. i wait till i see i like much then i look what other good traders think of it. If they like it too i trade.

What do you think of EUR NOK ?

Why not.. going up..

I see Double corrective...not quarantee cause just skim ur chart
  • #6,024
  • Oct 31, 2011 2:39pm Oct 31, 2011 2:39pm
Quoting smilemiz
Why not.. going up..

I see Double corrective...not quarantee cause just skim ur chart

here ..
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  • #6,025
  • Oct 31, 2011 2:45pm Oct 31, 2011 2:45pm
Quoting smilemiz
Why not.. going up..

I see Double corrective...not quarantee cause just skim ur chart

EURNZD, AUDNZD and EURGBP

i dont know for right now..Anyway, y r u trade there pairs? I am too seldom trade these.. Except EURGBP

Listen My dear Bob, all pairs is different styles and frequencies to applied EW Principle..

So, I worry you..Dont trade any pairs that you dont know .. sorry
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  • #6,026
  • Oct 31, 2011 3:37pm Oct 31, 2011 3:37pm
Quoting smilemiz
Markus.. Its been a long time.. How r u?

I miss everyone!!

Raza.. How r u there?

Miss Everyone.. All of you here...


and EW is more subjective..



Now, I m not feeling so well.. Sick

I try my best to come often to show my analysis here.. ok

So forgive me, if I can't
Hello Miza....Get well soon.

I am well and Busy.

Take care
Markets are not Random, they are designed!
  • #6,027
  • Oct 31, 2011 3:51pm Oct 31, 2011 3:51pm
Quoting smilemiz
Difficult..

But .. ah.. difficult

u know the rational is.. all any type of markets are.. THE OVERBOUGHT and THE OVERSOUGHT IS STILL RATIONAL AND LOGIC...

Ew is not enough to analysis by itself alone, me.. i believe

Let me say this
Mr Elliott works is more gives priority to price compare to time instead of Mr Gann is more concerned to the time by in his works

and The law of chart and Market behaviour i have to considered too



Hi Miza,

hope you get well soon :-)


With EW it is not sooooooooooo complicated.


a) it is important to have a good count and an alternative

b) to trade successfully there is no need to get the count everytime right. It is more important to know, when/where you are right or wrong in your count

c) combine EW with other methods. I think time is the less important/critical part. Elliott himself seldomly made references to time

d) draw channels whenever possible and observe momentum at/near this lines. This lines are your edge

e) use fibs, fib fans etc to find confluences

f) use multi time frame analysis; do never forget - waves are fractal
  • #6,028
  • Oct 31, 2011 3:53pm Oct 31, 2011 3:53pm
Quoting infinitus
Hi Miza,

hope you get well soon :-)


With EW it is not sooooooooooo complicated.


a) it is important to have a good count and an alternative

b) to trade successfully there is no need to get the count everytime right. It is more important to know, when/where you are right or wrong in your count

c) combine EW with other methods. I think time is the less important/critical part. Elliott himself seldomly made references to time

d) draw channels whenever possible and observe momentum at/near this lines. This lines are your edge

e)...

g) do not center too much around fundamentals. They only confuse. When the fundamentalists get it right they are already late to the party most of the time
  • #6,029
  • Oct 31, 2011 3:55pm Oct 31, 2011 3:55pm
Quoting infinitus
g) do not center too much around fundamentals. They only confuse. When the fundamentalists get it right they are already late to the party most of the time
h) never ever forget and repeat this:

to change the mood of the herd you do not need to have an extrinsic reason. It normally changes without any reason
  • #6,030
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:20pm Oct 31, 2011 6:20pm
Quoting Raza
Hello Miza....Get well soon.

I am well and Busy.

Take care
I am doing some exercise this morning.. get sweated

feel more ok

Quoting infinitus
Hi Miza,

hope you get well soon :-)


With EW it is not sooooooooooo complicated.


a) it is important to have a good count and an alternative

b) to trade successfully there is no need to get the count everytime right. It is more important to know, when/where you are right or wrong in your count

c) combine EW with other methods. I think time is the less important/critical part. Elliott himself seldomly made references to time

d) draw channels whenever possible and observe momentum at/near this lines. This lines are your edge

e) use fibs,...
Quoting smilemiz
Difficult..

But .. ah.. difficult

u know the rational is.. all any type of markets are.. THE OVERBOUGHT and THE OVERSOUGHT IS STILL RATIONAL AND LOGIC...

Ew is not enough to analysis by itself alone, me.. i believe

Let me say this
Mr Elliott works is more gives priority to price compare to time instead of Mr Gann is more concerned to the time by in his works

and The law of chart and Market behaviour i have to considered too



Ah.. 'difficult' means about your discussion between both of you...

Not about difficult to count... Look at my chart, Im doing great with EW..
Thanks God
better be humble

Anywy, Where is ur chart, my friend Markus?
  • #6,031
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:21pm Oct 31, 2011 6:21pm
Quoting infinitus
g) do not center too much around fundamentals. They only confuse. When the fundamentalists get it right they are already late to the party most of the time
Yes. Of Course
  • #6,032
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:32pm Oct 31, 2011 6:32pm
Quoting smilemiz
ok
AUD/USD update analysis
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  • #6,033
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:36pm Oct 31, 2011 6:36pm
Quoting smilemiz
AUD/USD update analysis
OR

Extn i just like oil, Gold and Commodity

Break around 1.0114 in less time or equal of Expanding Triangle 'C'

then = Confirmed BEARISH Changing direction

if not, This is just correction of small lesser degree
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  • #6,034
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:44pm Oct 31, 2011 6:44pm
Quoting smilemiz
update Yen

I expect we are within progressing of wave [iii]
Yesterday >200 pips

too fast from my analysis...


ready for down?
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  • #6,035
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:45pm Oct 31, 2011 6:45pm
Quoting smilemiz
OR

Extn i just like oil, Gold and Commodity
Quoting smilemiz


Break around 1.0114 in less time or equal of Expanding Triangle 'C'

then = Confirmed BEARISH Changing direction

if not, This is just correction of small lesser degree



SAMETHING WITH EURO AND GBPUSD.. even its waves not really clear as AUSSIE
  • #6,036
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:50pm Oct 31, 2011 6:50pm
Quoting Johanl66
He Upas where can I find these indicators that you have?

I always like to learn the EW the simple way...is there a simple way?

smilemiz is really good at this so is vincy balboa and allot more these people in this thread.

it is really hard how to count them and where to start to count these E waves.

I always think there most be a simple way how to start learning this kind of trading.
I see allot of Fibo's on the chart I know how to plot...
Johan.. i never use any indicator for EW

only eyes, brain, knowledge and hands to draw and counts it..and these are my indicator!

But ur EURO Chart is look perfect..keep it up ur work

MY swing target is 1.27
  • #6,037
  • Oct 31, 2011 6:56pm Oct 31, 2011 6:56pm
Quoting smilemiz
GBPUSD update!!!

my daytrading yesterday is done 30 pips
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...34#post5077534

GBPUSD Update..

Either elongated Flag (below) or right now is Simple Zigzag from 1.5277

but both direction is some.. DOWNWARD
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  • #6,038
  • Oct 31, 2011 7:11pm Oct 31, 2011 7:11pm
USDCAD..

Shorterm intraday.. ready to take this
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  • #6,039
  • Oct 31, 2011 7:48pm Oct 31, 2011 7:48pm
Quoting longshot_nl
Last one, EUR GBP.
I put some EW analysis on there too.
I look forward to some good reactions.
For u

EURGBP Analysis
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  • #6,040
  • Oct 31, 2011 8:14pm Oct 31, 2011 8:14pm
Quoting longshot_nl
I don't trade every setup anymore.. i wait till i see i like much then i look what other good traders think of it. If they like it too i trade.

What do you think of EUR NOK ?


Quoting longshot_nl
couse i am also looking to buy eur nzd...
any entry would be appreciated
Quoting longshot_nl
Heres another one i like Miza.(AUD NZD)
Could you maybe share your expert EW view on these if they could work or what targets could be.?

Thanks!

ok.. done
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