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  • #418,461
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:42am Apr 6, 2011 9:42am
Quoting Faller
gold is down 10 dollars for the days highs....oil is down on the day and is down 1 dollar from the highs....the nasdaq is down 30 points form the days highs and is down on the day....the es is down 10 points for the days highs and is barely even on the day....natural gas is down 8 cents on the day and down 11 cents from the days highs.....
Buy the fakking dip!
  • #418,462
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:45am Apr 6, 2011 9:45am
Quoting SunTrader
What about us traders?
Well sure...good point. Although I don't relish the idea of other traders suffering emotionally from taking the losing end of my winning trades.
  • #418,463
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:47am Apr 6, 2011 9:47am
Quoting SirMcPip
And where will this genius Trichet lead The Eurozone in your opinion? How will this situation be resolved? Maybe you can name a good example from history?
How will this situation be resolved? As I said before, I wish I knew in advance, and if I did I wouldn't be sharing my view in a public thread.

And where will this genius Trichet lead The Eurozone in your opinion? you can name a good example from history?

Yes he is the puppet master of the pair and is a genius, as most central bankers, at managing the markets not managing the EZ economic, fiscal, social and "democratic" problems (that is not ECB or any other central bank role).

If you can't find a good example of that I don't know what you have been looking for in the past 2 years. If you need examples just open your calendar with ECB conference and go to your charts...there are enough examples to keep you busy until tomorrow announcement.

The current example is on Jan 13 when he mentioned for the first time a hike in April with very hawkish comments in the middle of a new attempt of a selloff on debt crisis. Price hasn't stop trending since then....I hope it helps.

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #418,464
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:50am Apr 6, 2011 9:50am
??? that's genius??? saying in a meeting that he is going to raise rates so that they can sell their debt? sounds like desperation to me.


Quoting sisse
How will this situation be resolved? As I said before, I wish I knew in advance, and if I did I wouldn't be sharing my view in a public thread.

And where will this genius Trichet lead The Eurozone in your opinion? you can name a good example from history?

Yes he is the puppet master of the pair and is a genius, as most central bankers, at managing the markets not managing the EZ economic, fiscal,...
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #418,465
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:50am Apr 6, 2011 9:50am
Quoting sisse
How will this situation be resolved? As I said before, I wish I knew in advance, and if I did I wouldn't be sharing my view in a public thread.

And where will this genius Trichet lead The Eurozone in your opinion? you can name a good example from history?

Yes he is the puppet master of the pair and is a genius, as most central bankers, at managing the markets not managing the EZ economic, fiscal, social and "democratic" problems (that is not ECB or any other central bank role).

If you can't find a good example of that I don't...

Leonid Breshnev was also considered a genius by many....Cheers!
  • #418,466
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:51am Apr 6, 2011 9:51am
Quoting Faller
??? that's genius??? saying in a meeting that he is going to raise rates so that they can sell their debt? sounds like desperation to me.
It's genius when the objective is playing kick the can.....
  • #418,467
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:56am Apr 6, 2011 9:56am
Quoting SirMcPip
Leonid Breshnev was also considered a genius by many....Cheers!
Your last comment say it all....you can't have a decent exchange of views on Economics

Case close with you.

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #418,468
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:56am Apr 6, 2011 9:56am
Quoting sisse
How will this situation be resolved? As I said before, I wish I knew in advance, and if I did I wouldn't be sharing my view in a public thread.

And where will this genius Trichet lead The Eurozone in your opinion? you can name a good example from history?

Yes he is the puppet master of the pair and is a genius, as most central bankers, at managing the markets not managing the EZ economic, fiscal,...
yep... and he created inflation in the ez with these comments. was that the goal? if so, yes a genius... if not, not so bright. cause now he has to raise to curve his mandate on inflation. had he kept his mouth shut inflation would be less and ez exports greater. but if this was the goal... mission accomplished.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #418,469
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:57am Apr 6, 2011 9:57am
Quoting PriceVolume
It's genius when the objective is playing kick the can.....
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #418,470
  • Apr 6, 2011 9:59am Apr 6, 2011 9:59am
Quoting Faller
gold is down 10 dollars for the days highs....oil is down on the day and is down 1 dollar from the highs....the nasdaq is down 30 points form the days highs and is down on the day....the es is down 10 points for the days highs and is barely even on the day....natural gas is down 8 cents on the day and down 11 cents from the days highs.....
Reading this make everything look like its tanking ,but just one that i follow closely is oil .

You comment oil is down and down on the day,But you fail to mention today oil broke $109/barrel for first time since 2008 ,That happened today,it is currently still up .5% on the day ,but has dropped off the high but not by much considering its come from $85 couple weeks ago .

Do you consider roughly 25% rise in the commodity that controls the cost of everything you buy, knowing its affect is to weaken dollar,will not over time raise this pairs value ?

Consider we have only moved $1.30 too $1.43 that no were near the % of oils rise ,if oil sustains these lvls or rises and add interest rate rises,while us keep rates down .
Doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out what will happen .
1.5000 will be reached and if nothing changes breeched.
making green pips large and red pips small this is my goal.
  • #418,471
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:02am Apr 6, 2011 10:02am
since you wrote this oil is down 50 cents....in one minute......and still dropping.



Quoting paul1
Reading this make everything look like its tanking ,but just one that i follow closely is oil .

You comment oil is down and down on the day,But you fail to mention today oil broke $109/barrel for first time since 2008 ,That happened today,it is currently still up .5% on the day ,but has dropped off the high but not by much considering its come from $85 couple weeks ago .

Do you consider roughly 25% rise in the commodity that controls the cost of everything you buy, knowing its affect is to weaken dollar,will not over time raise this pairs value...
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #418,472
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:03am Apr 6, 2011 10:03am
Quoting Faller
??? that's genius??? saying in a meeting that he is going to raise rates so that they can sell their debt? sounds like desperation to me.
Yes, that is actually my point.... EZ is in deep shit and markets are rallying !!!

Is about managing expectations and markets not in correcting EZ members economic problems at national level (the ECB or anybody can fix the mess in Portugal, Greece and Ireland) ... don't forget that the only job for the ECB in the EZ is managing inflation and monetary policy not solving fiscal problems.

So desperation or not is irrelevant, the ECB is still holding the euro .... for how long? don't know but whatever they said and did, convinced a LOT of money to buy euros from 1.18xx.

In simple words, until price proof us wrong you have to give credit when is due....

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #418,473
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:05am Apr 6, 2011 10:05am
Quoting paul1
Reading this make everything look like its tanking ,but just one that i follow closely is oil .

You comment oil is down and down on the day,But you fail to mention today oil broke $109/barrel for first time since 2008 ,That happened today,it is currently still up .5% on the day ,but has dropped off the high but not by much considering its come from $85 couple weeks ago .
What is fundamental reason for this?
Where high oil prices will led US, EZ and rest of world?
  • #418,474
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:06am Apr 6, 2011 10:06am
Quoting Faller
since you wrote this oil is down 50 cents....in one minute......and still dropping.
So you're calling a top? Bull run over...oil, gold, silver, the lot?

BTFD!
  • #418,475
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:06am Apr 6, 2011 10:06am
true....i like your thoughts.

cheers.



Quoting sisse
Yes, that is actually my point.... EZ is in deep shit and markets are rallying !!!

Is about managing expectations and markets not in correcting EZ members economic problems at national level (the ECB or anybody can fix the mess in Portugal, Greece and Ireland) ... don't forget that the only job for the ECB in the EZ is managing inflation and monetary policy not solving fiscal problems.

So desperation or not is irrelevant, the ECB is still holding the euro .... for how long? don't know but whatever they said and did, convinced a LOT of money to...
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #418,476
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:08am Apr 6, 2011 10:08am
I did not call a top....I trade price movement.......and all prices are at 30 month highs....so I look for a down movement....

can you please tell me what BTFD stands for? Sorry I do not know that one....thanks.

Faller.

Quoting kenfen69
So you're calling a top? Bull run over...oil, gold, silver, the lot?

BTFD!
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #418,477
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:10am Apr 6, 2011 10:10am
Quoting sisse
Yes, that is actually my point.... EZ is in deep shit and markets are rallying !!!

Is about managing expectations and markets not in correcting EZ members economic problems at national level (the ECB or anybody can fix the mess in Portugal, Greece and Ireland) ... don't forget that the only job for the ECB in the EZ is managing inflation and monetary policy not solving fiscal problems.

So desperation or not is irrelevant, the ECB is still holding the euro .... for how long? don't know but whatever they said and did, convinced a LOT of...
I've been trying to understand this since the brginning of the year - no avail...
  • #418,478
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:11am Apr 6, 2011 10:11am
Quoting SirMcPip
Leonid Breshnev was also considered a genius by many....Cheers!
Even one of Trichet's contemporaries was at one time considered among the greats: Alan Greenspan.

Now his name is mud after the over-inflated housing market collapse.
  • #418,479
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:12am Apr 6, 2011 10:12am
and let's be real here....the big boys and everyone else have bought up the market and oil from the lows based on the anticipation of a recovery.....the market numbers and oil are at the numbers that we saw on 2008! Do you really think that things are any better now then they were before the crash??? Look at the numbers - look in your newspaper.....how are those job ads lookin???? Things are terrible out there.....it is like Alan Greenspan said.......when things are dark and dim - pump up the market and make things look good so that people think things are good and then everything will be ok......hmmmmmmm is that also genius????



Quoting kenfen69
So you're calling a top? Bull run over...oil, gold, silver, the lot?

BTFD!
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #418,480
  • Apr 6, 2011 10:12am Apr 6, 2011 10:12am
funny we posted the name alan greenspan at the same time.....lol!!!1



Quoting SunTrader
Even one of Trichet's contemporaries was at one time considered among the greats: Alan Greenspan.

Now his name is mud after the over-inflated housing market collapse.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
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