Art Phantom EA | Page 47 | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

Phantom 6 System 1,540 replies

Phantom 6 - Manual System 8 replies

Phantom Entry on ODL Japan. 2 replies

Tradeview CAD/JPY "Phantom" spike 0 replies

Phantom high, phantom low 0 replies

Attachments: Art Phantom EA
Exit Attachments

Art Phantom EA

  • #921
  • Dec 1, 2010 1:08pm Dec 1, 2010 1:08pm
Quoting ichidakiller
Ok thanks for the advice, Im going to try Alpari US...have people had success with these?
I'm with Alpari UK, any problem for now....
  • #922
  • Dec 1, 2010 1:15pm Dec 1, 2010 1:15pm
Quoting Caillou
I'm with Alpari UK, any problem for now....
Ok thanks for all your help

Ive set it up on alpari US

I do just keep this running 24/7 is that right
  • #923
  • Dec 1, 2010 1:28pm Dec 1, 2010 1:28pm
Quoting ichidakiller
Ok thanks for all your help

Ive set it up on alpari US

I do just keep this running 24/7 is that right
It depends, in my opinion I would avoid weekend gaps but each person is different.....
  • #924
  • Edited 2:28pm Dec 1, 2010 2:10pm | Edited 2:28pm
Quoting navk
Cutting the loosers would not be a good idea for these EA'S as these EA are created with synthetic hedge principle, if the EA cut loosers and PA reverses, the account might get stopped out quickly.
----

Culling the lossers every 2 hours and then allow to fill-in the closed pair with a winning/ trending pair would be a good idea. Alternative pair must be identified, say if we have an 8 pairs, we only run 6 pairs in one time. We can also close winning pairs that is losing momentum to improve our equity and keep the basket filled. I am not sure though if the basket will allow it as I am new and learning the concept. Also if our Total_DD_Max execeed 3% (or ??%) exit our trade.


Edd

Thanks,

Edd
  • #925
  • Dec 1, 2010 2:28pm Dec 1, 2010 2:28pm
Quoting dambuster
art_phantom_full
Account leverage: 1:500
Initial balance: 1000
MMTU setting: 0.4
PP setting: 1
PipStep if applicable: na

19 open trades, MaxDD 18.02%
Again, it's all relative, you are using MMTU and PP settings that were made for an account of at least $3000.

I know I use the same account starting capital and settings, but I am testing for the worst case.
  • #926
  • Dec 1, 2010 2:33pm Dec 1, 2010 2:33pm
Looks like my trend filter was too slow as it kept adding trades to EU and UJ while their trend went LONG.

It also detected the EJ trend too slow, only adding trades near the end of the rally, hence not catching the biggest move for EJ.

I'm going to try something else now.
  • #927
  • Dec 1, 2010 4:55pm Dec 1, 2010 4:55pm
Quoting the-game
Looks like my trend filter was too slow as it kept adding trades to EU and UJ while their trend went LONG.

It also detected the EJ trend too slow, only adding trades near the end of the rally, hence not catching the biggest move for EJ.

I'm going to try something else now.

and the beat goes on .... dada da da da....
Charts never lie! (everyone else does) ... now where's that FF Adult lounge
  • #928
  • Dec 1, 2010 5:34pm Dec 1, 2010 5:34pm
I'm posting this Backtest (what I could get of one) of the lastest Single_Pair_Phantom(fix2) ea.

I'm hoping it might help RoundRock determine if it is working correctly and if not where the problem might be. I simply can't get it to run through the tester all the way through.

TJ
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip fixed2.zip   21 KB | 224 downloads
Charts never lie! (everyone else does) ... now where's that FF Adult lounge
  • #929
  • Dec 1, 2010 7:35pm Dec 1, 2010 7:35pm
market will be range bound due to jobs data tomorrow. so be careful
  • #930
  • Dec 1, 2010 8:00pm Dec 1, 2010 8:00pm
Quoting roundrock
market will be range bound due to jobs data tomorrow. so be careful
PipStep will come in handy.
  • #931
  • Dec 1, 2010 9:25pm Dec 1, 2010 9:25pm
Quoting dambuster
What seems to be happening on my particular basket (now 20 open trades) is that:

EURUSD falls, EA opens sell trades

EURUSD reverses, EA opens EURJPY buy trades

EURUSD/EURUSD reverse again, EA repeats getting itself deeper and deeper into DD.

Unless a breakout and clear trend happens soon its only a matter of time until this whipsawing wipes the account

This is probably known as the death trade mentioned here and there on this thread
Yap...
That is correct.
For greater success of this ea these pairs should be replaced with highly -ly correlated pairs ie EU and UC. I have done that and demo testing from today.
Earlier I was trying for the same but not successful with ea. U can search that EA in previous post.

Regards,
24hrs.
  • #932
  • Dec 1, 2010 9:37pm Dec 1, 2010 9:37pm
Well AP full DD increase to -27%
Little serious.
  • #933
  • Dec 1, 2010 11:19pm Dec 1, 2010 11:19pm
Quoting roundrock
market will be range bound due to jobs data tomorrow. so be careful
Absolutely agree. The most difficult week to trade always with NFP on Friday. If a trader or EA survives this, we have a good trader or a good EA......
  • #934
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:46am Dec 2, 2010 12:46am
Quoting Caillou
Thank you very much Tazmaan

I think EUR/USD, M30, MMTU: 0.4 and PP: 1.0 (no use of any filter) could be good settings to compare with Art_Phantom_Full.....
Here's the backtest you wanted.
Do with what you will
As a note of interest, the h1 same settings made a little more profit, without the massive dd that almost busted the account (and probably would have in real trading).
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: singlepair.gif Size: 7 KB
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip singlepair.zip   44 KB | 199 downloads
  • #935
  • Dec 2, 2010 12:58am Dec 2, 2010 12:58am
Quoting tazmaan
Here's the backtest you wanted.
Do with what you will
As a note of interest, the h1 same settings made a little more profit, without the massive dd that almost busted the account (and probably would have in real trading).
Thank you very much Tazmaan.

Yes, Art_Phantom_Full without any filter could produce a very serious DD.

For now I'm between Art_Phantom_Light and Art_Phantom_Full_TH_CL_PS with 10 PipStep.

So with this Single Pair Phantom version closures were correct?
  • #936
  • Dec 2, 2010 1:09am Dec 2, 2010 1:09am
They seem to be, assuming the fact that it hedges (trades both directions on same pair) is correct.
I'd be curious to see what affect a pipstep input in this single pair version would do, maybe roundrock could add it in. If not, I'll look at adding it in myself tomorrow maybe.
Sleep time for me
  • #937
  • Dec 2, 2010 2:05am Dec 2, 2010 2:05am
My Single Pair Phantom EA in forwardtest didnīt work well. Since yesterday afternoon it only opened a Sell trade, and it would be opened some Buys trades.......
So Iīm not sure that it works properly.

Finally, Art_Phantom_Full recovers and closed 23 trades with +1.91% (during closing, market moves in our direction). But I still think the PipStep mod is a must.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: APF.jpg Size: 68 KB
  • #938
  • Dec 2, 2010 3:09am Dec 2, 2010 3:09am
Quoting sayembara
Basket still open since yesterday, with -$730 floating. Look forward for a good bounce soon.

Phantom_Full
Starting $10,000.
Leverage 100:1.
MMTU 1.6
PP 0.4
Profit $408.
DD -7.5%

Managed to close the basket BUT.... the profit down to $302. Don't know why...may be delay (or not responding) in closing the open trades? Anyway, better less $100 than less $700

After the basket close, new basket still open with -$600 floating.

Phantom_Full
Starting $10,000.
Leverage 100:1.
MMTU 1.6
PP 0.4
Profit $302.
DD -7.5%
  • #939
  • Dec 2, 2010 3:11am Dec 2, 2010 3:11am
Quoting sayembara
Managed to close the basket BUT.... the profit down to $302. Don't know why...may be delay (or not responding) in closing the open trades? Anyway, better less $100 than less $700

After the basket close, new basket still open with -$600 floating.

Phantom_Full
Starting $10,000.
Leverage 100:1.
MMTU 1.6
PP 0.4
Profit $302.
DD -7.5%

How many open trades did you have ? The more trades open, the more risk to close with a % different that your PP.....
  • #940
  • Dec 2, 2010 3:13am Dec 2, 2010 3:13am
I suggest post the latest PS, or CL, etc version on front page for easy access. Now I'll use the attachment window to get the file with latest date.
1 trader viewing now