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  • #1,221
  • Edited 3:57am Dec 3, 2009 3:20am | Edited 3:57am
Quoting maxou888
When you test dozens of Ea's, it's a nightmare to open so many demo accounts.
It's very easy to analyse results using the "comment" column. Morover, inside a single EA, you can analyse deeper if you change the "comment" according various strategies etc...
The best way is to download the account history in Excel, then select the column that contains the comment, then use data/sort by to sort by comment first, then you can secondly sort by symbol or entry time ect...

Use GetHistory (copy to expert/scripts) and drag it in any chart. The file...
Thanks for your post, but I am sorry, I have to strongly disagree with you and can not recommend your approach for serious EA testing.

I also test many EA's and IMHO it is ESSENTIAL to have each EA functioning under a totally separate account.

It takes all of about 45 seconds to open a new demo account, so very far short of a 'nightmare'.

Also the results from EA tests are run through external software to analyse a.o. correlation between pairs, return distribution curves, Monte Carlo simulation for future results, Annualised Sharpe ratio, day-end draw down peaks & troughs etc., all totally impossible using multiple EA's running on a single account.

Lastly I also use a completely clean copy of MT4 for each EA under test, so each EA has it's own copy of MT4 running in a separate directory. This means there are no possible errors from EA conflicts, Global Variable clashes, Trade Context busy errors as everything tries to grab attention at the same time etc, etc.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
  • #1,222
  • Dec 3, 2009 3:58am Dec 3, 2009 3:58am
Macman, I understand your mean, and sure it's a safer way to analyse Ea results.
However I prefer my system, because when an Ea is good enough to go on my Live account, I am happy to be sure it can cope with the others Ea's, and I am sure it can because it done well in the demo account during many months. I do not want to run multiple live accounts.
If an Ea can only run alone, it's a problem if it's not for educational purpose only. Personnaly my goal is to trade for living and I hope to add some Ea in my live account as soon as I will have a new one that is good for that.
Anyway these 2 approachs are minor points.
May I ahev a question : what is your external software that you use for analysing ?

Cheers,
  • #1,223
  • Dec 3, 2009 4:04am Dec 3, 2009 4:04am
Quoting maxou888
Macman, I understand your mean, and sure it's a safer way to analyse Ea results.
However I prefer my system, because when an Ea is good enough to go on my Live account, I am happy to be sure it can cope with the others Ea's, and I am sure it can because it done well in the demo account during many months. I do not want to run multiple live accounts.
If an Ea can only run alone, it's a problem if it's not for educational purpose only. Personnaly my goal is to trade for living and I hope to add some Ea in my live account as soon as I will have a new...
Yes, I do understand.
BTW I also run robots on live accounts, but once again each robot is given a separate account, for the reasons outlined in my post above.

I will send you a PM about the external analysis software - please check your PM is turned on.

Best regards,
  • #1,224
  • Dec 3, 2009 5:05am Dec 3, 2009 5:05am
I am sorry for maybe pointless question, but now I'm trying out V3 first time.

Is V3.3 closing baskets at TP correctly?
Now I saw that desired TP is 27.5, basket was +44.5 and robot did nothing.
Thank you.
Pavel
  • #1,225
  • Dec 3, 2009 7:05am Dec 3, 2009 7:05am
Here are the results of the last 3 days of trading using out of the box setting.

Not a profitable EA one could loose his shirt and underwear with it
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  • #1,226
  • Dec 3, 2009 7:43am Dec 3, 2009 7:43am
Quoting maya007
I am sorry for maybe pointless question, but now I'm trying out V3 first time.

Is V3.3 closing baskets at TP correctly?
Now I saw that desired TP is 27.5, basket was +44.5 and robot did nothing.
Thank you.
So far as I know, it is.

What can possibly happen is that the basket goes past its tp, but the robot is only loaded onto one chart - in my case GJ. If the chart doesn't get a tick, then the robot doesn't close the basket, and we know how quickly these baskets move.

I need to look into this. Thanks for bringing it up.

  • #1,227
  • Dec 3, 2009 8:13am Dec 3, 2009 8:13am
Quoting SteveHopwood
So far as I know, it is.

What can possibly happen is that the basket goes past its tp, but the robot is only loaded onto one chart - in my case GJ. If the chart doesn't get a tick, then the robot doesn't close the basket, and we know how quickly these baskets move.

I need to look into this. Thanks for bringing it up.

Steve,

The only way I know around this is making the EA into a Script (non tick) within a loop but as you know, scripts pose other problems!!!.
  • #1,228
  • Dec 3, 2009 8:47am Dec 3, 2009 8:47am
Quoting scooby-doo
Steve,

The only way I know around this is making the EA into a Script (non tick) within a loop but as you know, scripts pose other problems!!!.
I think I probably just need to make sure that basket closure occurs as soon as the robot detects the upl has passed tp. I think it does, but will check at some point.

I have never seen my upl overshoot like this but will have a look.

  • #1,229
  • Dec 3, 2009 9:14am Dec 3, 2009 9:14am
Quoting SteveHopwood
I think I probably just need to make sure that basket closure occurs as soon as the robot detects the upl has passed tp. I think it does, but will check at some point.

I have never seen my upl overshoot like this but will have a look.

I have seen it many times with my robot, i think its like you said about not getting a tick.

So, i just run the mt4_ticker in the background and I havent noticed it since.

But you maybe correct.
  • #1,230
  • Dec 3, 2009 10:38am Dec 3, 2009 10:38am
Quoting scooby-doo
I have seen it many times with my robot, i think its like you said about not getting a tick.

So, i just run the mt4_ticker in the background and I havent noticed it since.

But you maybe correct.
That's a good idea - I had forgotten about this.

  • #1,231
  • Dec 3, 2009 10:42am Dec 3, 2009 10:42am
So we are buying the strongest and selling the weakest, against eachother?

I have tried this some month ago with a different indicator.

the problem was, that the strongest was mostly way overbought, and the weakest vise versa. sometimes because of a huge spike so it would have been better to watch out for the reversal instead!

maybe the basket system is better, hope someone can tell me..

Cheers
Follow the Trend, thats all
  • #1,232
  • Dec 3, 2009 11:09am Dec 3, 2009 11:09am
Quoting scooby-doo
I have seen it many times with my robot, i think its like you said about not getting a tick.

So, i just run the mt4_ticker in the background and I havent noticed it since.

But you maybe correct.
Where does one find mt4_ticker? I tried a Google search but could not locate it.
  • #1,233
  • Dec 3, 2009 11:10am Dec 3, 2009 11:10am
Quoting SteveHopwood
I have put a link to this post in post 1, to encourage others to do the reading. Welcome. I hope the robot is a success for you.

When your brain has recovered a bit, next port of call is the scooby-doo robot thread.

Thanks Steve. I'm on to that next!
  • #1,234
  • Dec 3, 2009 11:19am Dec 3, 2009 11:19am
Quoting octomanoak
Where does one find mt4_ticker? I tried a Google search but could not locate it.
You can download it from: http://www.fx1.net/mt4tick.php
  • #1,235
  • Dec 3, 2009 12:45pm Dec 3, 2009 12:45pm
Quoting scooby-doo
You can download it from: http://www.fx1.net/mt4tick.php
Thanks Scooby-Doo!
  • #1,236
  • Dec 4, 2009 10:09am Dec 4, 2009 10:09am
Quoting scooby-doo
You can download it from: http://www.fx1.net/mt4tick.php
Please could you attach it here or send by mail? Yesterday I registered there, but I didn't received confirmation email so I cannot download it.
Pavel
  • #1,237
  • Dec 4, 2009 10:13am Dec 4, 2009 10:13am
Quoting SteveHopwood
So far as I know, it is.

What can possibly happen is that the basket goes past its tp, but the robot is only loaded onto one chart - in my case GJ. If the chart doesn't get a tick, then the robot doesn't close the basket, and we know how quickly these baskets move.
Today two baskets was closed all right. Maybe the problem is with getting tick in the right time - but yesterday was upl > tp around 5 minutes and some price movements happened in this time. I will try a tick tool presented by scooby.
Pavel
  • #1,238
  • Dec 4, 2009 10:13am Dec 4, 2009 10:13am
Quoting maya007
Please could you attach it here or send by mail? Yesterday I registered there, but I didn't received confirmation email so I cannot download it.
Here you go.
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File Type: zip mt4_ticker.zip   16 KB | 388 downloads
  • #1,239
  • Dec 4, 2009 10:15am Dec 4, 2009 10:15am
Quoting scooby-doo
Here you go.
Thank you very much.
Pavel
  • #1,240
  • Dec 4, 2009 3:25pm Dec 4, 2009 3:25pm
Quoting maya007
Today two baskets was closed all right. Maybe the problem is with getting tick in the right time - but yesterday was upl > tp around 5 minutes and some price movements happened in this time. I will try a tick tool presented by scooby.
I have added extra basket-closing code to the robot and will post it as soon as I have checked it.

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