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  • #121
  • Oct 30, 2009 3:51am Oct 30, 2009 3:51am
I have the GY trade still open and into hedging territory, so it will be interesting to see where that leads.

It is impossible to tell from the picture why Mrezoot's trade got closed, but the most likely explanation is to do with the AO.

There is no way that I know of reading the indi's colour as displayed on the screen. To code a simulation, I compare the current value with that at the close of the previous candle. From the picture, we can see that AO has not changed much recently. If its value at the start of the new candle was higher that at the close of the previous, however briefly, the the robot will have decided there was a colour change and closed the trade.

It might be that we need a buffer zone of a few points before the robot decides that the indi's colour really has changed. We shall see.

  • #122
  • Oct 30, 2009 12:37pm Oct 30, 2009 12:37pm
I have a GJ sell that retraced far enough to kick in the first tranche of hedging. Now the market has resumed its downward movement, there is every chance the hedged pair will close out at breakeven.

My StartHedgingAtLossPips is not flexible enough - hedging kicked in a lot of pips before it would have hit a stop loss.

I will think about how to code a StartHedgingAtLossPips setting that calculates the value of this setting automatically and sets it at the same figure as a stop loss, had there been one.

  • #123
  • Oct 30, 2009 1:04pm Oct 30, 2009 1:04pm
Hello again all!

Well its good to see what has been discovered.

Even though it seems not much can be derived from my pic, seems to be enough to set off a bulb for ya Steve!


Cut the trade for DD....


Learned something new today....


I will for sure be posting any new results to help w/ the testing any way I can!

A very selfless thread you have here steve, I admire your dedication to the cause!

Alone, this would take a lifetime and a plethora of demos to perfect....I just hope everyones' input helps put you in a faster lane!

Thanks again Mandl2007 and Steve, be talking to you soon!
  • #124
  • Oct 30, 2009 1:22pm Oct 30, 2009 1:22pm
Hi guys ! My gbp/jpy trade is still in - at the end of this week (trading began only 10/29 !) all three accounts have earned a nice profit (you may watch these accounts - see my posts above - I posted sometime ago acc numbers and passwords) The acc with huge profit of nearly 1200 $ is traded with to high risk of corse ! But so far it works well
  • #125
  • Oct 30, 2009 1:46pm Oct 30, 2009 1:46pm
Good to see you guys enjoying yourselves.

Early days, I know, but it looks like we might be getting somewhere.

The genius behind all this is Ash. A trading robot is only 90% as good as the system it trades. I am only the mechanic bolting the robot together. If the robot turns out to be a long-term success, it is because the system is sound.

  • #126
  • Oct 30, 2009 2:38pm Oct 30, 2009 2:38pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Good to see you guys enjoying yourselves.

Early days, I know, but it looks like we might be getting somewhere.

The genius behind all this is Ash. A trading robot is only 90% as good as the system it trades. I am only the mechanic bolting the robot together. If the robot turns out to be a long-term success, it is because the system is sound.

Spoken like a true gentleman!

A real pleasure to pick up in this thread.

I need to send a token of my gratitude to Ash as well...Couldn't forget about that!!
  • #127
  • Edited Oct 31, 2009 2:59am Oct 30, 2009 6:59pm | Edited Oct 31, 2009 2:59am
edit.

My broker has sunday's candle after DST change. I have to look what to do.
Pavel
  • #128
  • Oct 31, 2009 4:23am Oct 31, 2009 4:23am
Quoting maya007
edit.

My broker has sunday's candle after DST change. I have to look what to do.
I shall add a don't=trade-on-Sunday option. Until I do this, don't turn the robot on until Monday.

  • #129
  • Oct 31, 2009 3:22pm Oct 31, 2009 3:22pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
I shall add a don't=trade-on-Sunday option. Until I do this, don't turn the robot on until Monday.

Yes. Thank you.

But when should be closed first half of profitable trade and a second half modified to BE?
Ash's rules:
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If the day, or any consequent day, has closed in your direction (i.e. you’re in profit at the end of any given
day), then close half your position & move SL to break even. Close the other half once either the AO or
PSAR turns the opposite colour/direction. Only exit at the candle close.
Final Points

So - when is friday first profitable day (as GBPJPY trade from wednesday), close has to be done before friday close, on sunday open or monday open? I have to look in ash's thread at forexmoments.com.

I suppose that now robot will do this on sunday open. Am I right?
Pavel
  • #130
  • Oct 31, 2009 9:07pm Oct 31, 2009 9:07pm
Back in. Thanks Steve.
  • #131
  • Nov 1, 2009 4:39am Nov 1, 2009 4:39am
I have added the code to prevent trading the Sunday candle.

People have been asking about the timing of trade closures etc. Everything to do with opening/closing trades happens at the start of each new candle.

  • #132
  • Nov 1, 2009 5:34am Nov 1, 2009 5:34am
Quoting SteveHopwood
I have added the code to prevent trading the Sunday candle.
Thank you for this update. For me is it essential.

Now I'm facing to another problem - from the experience of the last trade it seems be good not telling SL and TP values to broker.
I saw in the MPTM documentation that there is option to hide SL and TP. Please could you add this feature into robot too? Because of different SL and TP values for each trade, use of the MPTM is not possible.
Pavel
  • #133
  • Nov 1, 2009 3:31pm Nov 1, 2009 3:31pm
Quoting maya007
Thank you for this update. For me is it essential.

Now I'm facing to another problem - from the experience of the last trade it seems be good not telling SL and TP values to broker.
I saw in the MPTM documentation that there is option to hide SL and TP. Please could you add this feature into robot too? Because of different SL and TP values for each trade, use of the MPTM is not possible.
I tried adding this to the robot but it didn't work. At some stage in the future, I will return to this and make it work if the robot turns out to have legs.

In the meantime, mtpm will do the job for you if you learn how to use it properly. I will not explain how it works here, nor answer questions about it elsewhere because I have written a user guide that will help. Where the user guide is unclear, then it is up to the user to experiment and find settings that work.

There is plenty of time to do this; everything here is experimental. All I will do when adding hidden stops etc to this robot is copy them from mtpm. If you cannot make mtpm work for you, you will be unable to make the same functions work when using this trading robot.

I hope this does not sound harsh and unsympathetic. I can spend my non-income generating work time coding or answering questions about my robots. I prefer to do the former.

  • #134
  • Nov 1, 2009 3:54pm Nov 1, 2009 3:54pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
I tried adding this to the robot but it didn't work. At some stage in the future, I will return to this and make it work if the robot turns out to have legs.
Thank you for trying.
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In the meantime, mtpm will do the job for you if you learn how to use it properly. I will not explain how it works here, nor answer questions about it elsewhere because I have written a user guide that will help. Where the user guide is unclear, then it is up to the user to experiment and find settings that work.
Yes - but in very unconvinient way, because every trade has different SL.

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If you cannot make mtpm work for you, you will be unable to make the same functions work when using this trading robot.
No, you are not right this time.

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I hope this does not sound harsh and unsympathetic. I can spend my non-income generating work time coding or answering questions about my robots. I prefer to do the former.
I see that you are absolutely concentrated in KG and BOJ intervence, so this type of request is annoying to you.
So let it be.
Pavel
  • #135
  • Nov 1, 2009 4:17pm Nov 1, 2009 4:17pm
Quoting maya007
Thank you for trying.

Yes - but in very unconvinient way, because every trade has different SL.


No, you are not right this time.
Yes I am. I wrote the robot. Kindly do not tell me I am wrong about this.

'Tis up to you whether you work out how to do this or not.
  • #136
  • Nov 2, 2009 12:03pm Nov 2, 2009 12:03pm
I am running this on the five min. window. What settings will disable the candle length feature, please? I think this robot has legs on the short TFs.
Regards, Glenn
  • #137
  • Nov 2, 2009 12:32pm Nov 2, 2009 12:32pm
I see - you are since 2006 with FF.com - a long time - so dont have to teach you .... but are you really sure about the AshFx method working on TF slower than 4H ??? As I know it - it works best on daily - its possible a bit on 4H ... but 5 minutes ???? Cant imagine this ! But may be I'm wrong ! I'm curious about results on the TF 5M !
  • #138
  • Nov 2, 2009 1:00pm Nov 2, 2009 1:00pm
Quoting winsteadglenn
I am running this on the five min. window. What settings will disable the candle length feature, please? I think this robot has legs on the short TFs.
Regards, Glenn
It will get killed on the short time frames, but that is not what you asked.

Set CandleLengthOverAverage to something silly to effectively turn it off - say 1000. AllowableWickPercentage is effectively turned off by default, but set it to 100 if not.

  • #139
  • Nov 2, 2009 2:13pm Nov 2, 2009 2:13pm
Getting Killed. That is all I need to know, Steve. I trust your judgment. Down the tubes with the short TFs. Thanks.

Regards, Glenn
  • #140
  • Nov 2, 2009 2:31pm Nov 2, 2009 2:31pm
Looks like it only took 2 hours to tell that....so it must have been!

Don't feel bad winsteadglenn.

Remember...
Great ideas are made the same way bad ones are.....

Trying something new!

You don't know if you don't try!

Good luck and many pips to you!
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