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  • #134,441
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:52am Aug 24, 2009 10:52am
Steve, check XAU/USD (Gold) and EUR/USD on: http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/live-charts/
Watch the 4H TF. That's why I think E/U will go down.

Quoting stevefx
I don't have gold on IBFX MT4, is why i'm asking..
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #134,442
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:52am Aug 24, 2009 10:52am
Quoting gatorinla
u.s. predicts swine flu will affect 30/50 % of u.s. population... and 30K to 90K deaths from swine flu..
Hey Gator, hey all. Been back from a really nice vacation. Nice to see some of the old guys here.

Regarding the swine flu: BS. The vaccine is already on the way. This is just media intoxication to give good motives why government "friends" should receive hundreds of millions of dollars from pubic money.
  • #134,443
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:53am Aug 24, 2009 10:53am
Quoting Duce
The date was Dec. 18/09. EURUSD was pretty much the same price as it is today. Oild dove to sub $40 zone, but shortly thereafter started it's climb back up to today's prices.

So, oil is twice the price yet EURO has not gained on the USD since then. What does that tell me? Oil's been hedged up again. No real demand. Lots of BS numbers out there.
there are tankers all over the world full of oil with no where to go.. the distance between 40pb and 147pb $ oil last time. this time 75 is much closer to 40 and some mometem would get us there quick since 40 is still fresh on our minds..im not saying this will happen its unlikely .. im saying it could. along with usd crosses.. but oil demand is down..along with anything else u.s. consumes..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #134,444
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:54am Aug 24, 2009 10:54am
Quoting VinzZ
Steve, check XAU/USD (Gold) and EUR/USD on: http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/live-charts/
Watch the 4H TF. That's why I think E/U will go down.
Thanks, also take a look at the GU on the 4hr. There's a really well formed massive H&S thats just hanging off the right shoulder at the moment. If that one falls off the table should be large.
  • #134,445
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:55am Aug 24, 2009 10:55am
Quoting $maker
i do 32oz gold... i had two contracts short... but i had T/P set...
still made a kool $120 odd
Sure it is, better trade safe, I always have a T/P set. But such a Gold drop without a T/P would make me lick my beard and mustache.
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #134,446
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:56am Aug 24, 2009 10:56am
Quoting TheFisherman
Hey Gator, hey all. Been back from a really nice vacation. Nice to see some of the old guys here.

Regarding the swine flu: BS. The vaccine is already on the way. This is just media intoxication to give good motives why government "friends" should receive hundreds of millions of dollars from pubic money.
Hey, good to see you back, man. I'm glad at least somebody here is sane enough to take a nice vacation. Now, are you ready to short the hell out of E/U with me?
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #134,447
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:56am Aug 24, 2009 10:56am
Quoting TheFisherman
Hey Gator, hey all. Been back from a really nice vacation. Nice to see some of the old guys here.

Regarding the swine flu: BS. The vaccine is already on the way. This is just media intoxication to give good motives why government "friends" should receive hundreds of millions of dollars from pubic money.
100% about the swine fly. Happy to see you are back... Didn't I here you cough? Happy flooding
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #134,448
  • Aug 24, 2009 10:59am Aug 24, 2009 10:59am
Quoting TheFisherman
Hey Gator, hey all. Been back from a really nice vacation. Nice to see some of the old guys here.

Regarding the swine flu: BS. The vaccine is already on the way. This is just media intoxication to give good motives why government "friends" should receive hundreds of millions of dollars from pubic money.
i hear ya... but the vaccine is not here yet.. and the swine flu is.. austraila is playing with it now..the bad thing about this flu is it kills healthy people as well as the weak..then if it mutates vaccine could be worthless..nature has a way of controlling populations..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #134,449
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:00am Aug 24, 2009 11:00am
Quoting stevefx
Thanks, also take a look at the GU on the 4hr. There's a really well formed massive H&S thats just hanging off the right shoulder at the moment. If that one falls off the table should be large.
I don't really trust H&S patterns, but the G/U 4H TF really is bearish. Euro can't resist them all I guess...
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #134,450
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:00am Aug 24, 2009 11:00am
Quoting gatorinla
there are tankers all over the world full of oil with no where to go.. the distance between 40pb and 147pb $ oil this time. 75 is much close to 40 and some mometem would get us there quick since 40 is still fresh on our minds..im not saying this will happen its unlikely .. im saying it could. along with usd crosses.. but oil demand is down..along with anything else u.s. consumes..
Gator, being away for some time gave me the opportunity to clear my mind and see thing from a much distant perspective:

Right now, EZ shows way better signs of recovery and economic advancement than US. And this will for sure affect E/U in the long run. I'm actually expecting 1.5 after vacations are over. As for the OIL, I was getting it wrong. It's not how much demand there is, it's what the oil sellers are keeping their money into: USD or EUR? My personal belief is they keep EUR. So, as EUR goes higher, OIL price in USD goes higher also, without increasing the oil demand. It's enough that EZ has enough demand for OIL to keep the oil price connected to EUR.
  • #134,451
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:00am Aug 24, 2009 11:00am
Quoting gatorinla
there are tankers all over the world full of oil with no where to go.. the distance between 40pb and 147pb $ oil this time. 75 is much close to 40 and some mometem would get us there quick since 40 is still fresh on our minds..im not saying this will happen its unlikely .. im saying it could. along with usd crosses.. but oil demand is down..along with anything else u.s. consumes..

I kinda disagree ... mainly because even the booming economies of middle east (like where i stay- Dubai). have openly admitted the need for Oil to be at 75$.
Even Iran.
So i am pretty sure the minute we start going south.. they will cut output...
they need the money big time to fund the mirage they created here.
  • #134,452
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:02am Aug 24, 2009 11:02am
Quoting The Fool
Hey, good to see you back, man. I'm glad at least somebody here is sane enough to take a nice vacation. Now, are you ready to short the hell out of E/U with me?
Nopes See the reply I gave Gator. I'm actually pretty convinces that after the summer is over EUR will keep on marching. Pretty unsofisticated reasons: EZ economy vs US economy.
  • #134,453
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:02am Aug 24, 2009 11:02am
Come on Gate! This all a setup! Wonna make a dollar in de pharma industry? Fear is the key for it! If they would publish every death of normal flu on the front page of the papers...

Quoting gatorinla
i hear ya... but the vaccine is not here yet.. and the swine flu is.. austraila is playing with it now..the bad thing about this flu is it kills healthy people as well as the weak..then if it mutates vaccine could be worthless..nature has a way of controlling populations..
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #134,454
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:03am Aug 24, 2009 11:03am
Quoting gatorinla
its better to stay out even if you were right.. never enter a long or short without a pull back if it has not broke through a s/r... you will lose many more times then you win.. but if you do do it cut your losses early..
Thanks gator, good advice.
  • #134,455
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:03am Aug 24, 2009 11:03am
Quoting VinzZ
100% about the swine fly. Happy to see you are back... Didn't I here you cough? Happy flooding
Where I am, swine flu is just soappy TV news. At most 50 people, all of which came back from problematic countries.
  • #134,456
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:06am Aug 24, 2009 11:06am
Quoting $maker
I kinda disagree ... mainly because even the booming economies of middle east (like where i stay- Dubai). have openly admitted the need for Oil to be at 75$.
Even Iran.
So i am pretty sure the minute we start going south.. they will cut output...
they need the money big time to fund the mirage they created here.
that why im 50/50 on my vehicle with hydrogen...when others do the same its over..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #134,457
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:06am Aug 24, 2009 11:06am
Quoting TheFisherman
Where I am, swine flu is just soappy TV news. At most 50 people, all of which came back from problematic countries.
Well in my previous message I meant that the swine flu is but a hoax.
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #134,458
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:08am Aug 24, 2009 11:08am
Quoting TheFisherman
Nopes See the reply I gave Gator. I'm actually pretty convinces that after the summer is over EUR will keep on marching. Pretty unsofisticated reasons: EZ economy vs US economy.
you do realise with out a u.s economy there is no e-zone economy right?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #134,459
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:09am Aug 24, 2009 11:09am
Quoting VinzZ
Well in my previous message I meant that the swine flu is but a hoax.
I'm with you on that.
  • #134,460
  • Aug 24, 2009 11:10am Aug 24, 2009 11:10am
Quoting VinzZ
Well in my previous message I meant that the swine flu is but a hoax.
a dont know man... i dont have sex with pigs to prevent this.. that and i was always afraid they would squeel on me..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
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