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  • #801
  • Jul 30, 2008 1:20am Jul 30, 2008 1:20am
Quoting Ulterior
SwingMan is getting annoying already with his Microsoft style '.ex4' files.
I'm happy with the .ex4 files. If we want anything changed, Swingman is always happy to oblige. He's done a lot of good work on this thread (and others). We should be extremely grateful.

David
  • #802
  • Jul 30, 2008 1:40am Jul 30, 2008 1:40am
Quoting xkuba
To spieler:

could you write your +0.25 and -0.25 levels for today? Thanks
Mine is:
+0.25=1.6348
-0.25=1.6266
Regards
  • #803
  • Jul 30, 2008 1:45am Jul 30, 2008 1:45am
Quoting Ulterior
SwingMan is getting annoying already with his Microsoft style '.ex4' files.
Ulterior, I see from your profile that you are a programmer too and maybe posting only .ex4 file is upsetting you since you like to see the full code. Well I think it's a decision of Swingman to post the mq4 file and his purpouse is to let other non-programmer trader to get another tool for this method to be used for free.
If you don't like that , since you are a programmer, you can re-code by yourself that EA/Indicators.

Cheers,
Skyline
  • #804
  • Jul 30, 2008 1:53am Jul 30, 2008 1:53am
Quoting skyline
Maybe he means 1.6350 for EURCHF
Lol, yes even better haha!
  • #805
  • Jul 30, 2008 2:20am Jul 30, 2008 2:20am
Quoting howard
Mine is:
+0.25=1.6348
-0.25=1.6266
It depends on your previous day close. I hope SwingMan will release a new version of the EA in which we can enter the number of hours for the shift reference instead of the day shift reference, so we can all have the same levels.
A good trade is when I Break Even. A great trade is when I Take Profit.
  • #806
  • Jul 30, 2008 2:25am Jul 30, 2008 2:25am
Quoting Ulterior
SwingMan is getting annoying already with his Microsoft style '.ex4' files.
If you are referring to the many bug fixes, then you are wrong to complain. The purpose of this thread is to trade Spieler's system and to test the EA and indicators Swingman provides to the community in pursuit of that objective. Both Spieler and Swingman give their time and effort freely and patiently; they are to be commended and not disrespected.

Like my mama said, "if you can't say something nice about someone, then don't say anything at all".

I want to extend a heart felt thanks to both Spieler and Swingman.

btw at least Swingman doesn't charge like Microsoft and he gets the bug fixes out.

Finally I don't see anyone forcing you to use Swingman's EA and indicator.
  • #807
  • Jul 30, 2008 2:27am Jul 30, 2008 2:27am
Quoting Ulterior
SwingMan is getting annoying already with his Microsoft style '.ex4' files.
I have to ask you to watch your attitude, I think you have several problems with many people in this forum, man...
Try to be more polite (respectuos) and you will be respected!
Nobody has to work for anyone here, so you should THANK Swingman for his work.
That's all.
I don't say
  • #808
  • Jul 30, 2008 2:40am Jul 30, 2008 2:40am
Quoting Cornelius
It depends on your previous day close. I hope SwingMan will release a new version of the EA in which we can enter the number of hours for the shift reference instead of the day shift reference, so we can all have the same levels.
If you're only looking for levels and not an EA, this indicator that I've made and posted here earlier lets you shift on the hourly bars. If you want to see last days or any other days levels, just subtract 24 from the OpenTime
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 EU-UC hedge.mq4   15 KB | 705 downloads
  • #809
  • Jul 30, 2008 2:50am Jul 30, 2008 2:50am
Quoting dragosd1
I have to ask you to watch your attitude, I think you have several problems with many people in this forum, man...
Try to be more polite (respectuos) and you will be respected!
Nobody has to work for anyone here, so you should THANK Swingman for his work.
That's all.
Do you feel obligatory of pointing to other people problems? Please show me the post of many people problem with me - it would be most interesting.

If you don't agree with my opinion you don't have to answer, you know. One day you'll understand what I mean by that post, for now - feel comfortable with compiled code, user.
  • #810
  • Jul 30, 2008 3:07am Jul 30, 2008 3:07am
Quoting Ulterior
Do you feel obligatory of pointing to other people problems? Please show me the post of many people problem with me - it would be most interesting.

If you don't agree with my opinion you don't have to answer, you know. One day you'll understand what I mean by that post, for now - feel comfortable with compiled code, user.
I really have better things to do that "chatting" with you.....seems you don't see the point....
unfortunately for you, in the "Swingman matter" you have to get confortable with the ideea to be a "user" too!
I don't say
  • #811
  • Jul 30, 2008 3:08am Jul 30, 2008 3:08am
Quoting skyline
Me too Markus, I missed previous entry and entered some minutes ago at 1.6317
One benefit of missing the 1st entry is not having to pay the roll for the short position on Tuesday since my position was posted after 5pm EST which is when my broker calculates it. Again, pure luck but I'll take what I can get.
  • #812
  • Jul 30, 2008 3:17am Jul 30, 2008 3:17am
Quoting howard
Mine is:
+0.25=1.6348
-0.25=1.6266
It is in fact +0.25=1.6358 and -0.25=1.6276
Regards
  • #813
  • Jul 30, 2008 6:17am Jul 30, 2008 6:17am
I have added a second position @ 1.6331 so total 2 positions rolling.
I have noticed that the older position pip win/loss 140/170 .
Can you tell by these numbers if you should exit the position after having averaged a couple of times or doesn't it matter?
There are no certainties only oppurtunities.
  • #814
  • Jul 30, 2008 6:52am Jul 30, 2008 6:52am
Quoting howard
It is in fact +0.25=1.6358 and -0.25=1.6276
Yellow Line at 1.6297 (GMT Close)
+0.25 = 1.6338
-0.25 = 1.6297
  • #815
  • Edited 7:58am Jul 30, 2008 6:56am | Edited 7:58am
Quoting Richard
Yellow Line at 1.6297 (GMT Close)
+0.25 = 1.6338
-0.25 = 1.6297
What's yellow line ? I guess it's yesterday's close = today's open
Btw my values are as follow (gmt aligned) :

+0.25 % = 1.6338
0 % = 1.6297
-0.25 % = 1.6256 ( maybe your number is wrong here ? )

To avoid confusion on entry points / levels, I think it's better we all refer to gmt quotation (that's also Spieler's broker gmt align)
  • #816
  • Jul 30, 2008 8:15am Jul 30, 2008 8:15am
Quoting skyline
What's yellow line ? I guess it's yesterday's close = today's open
Btw my values are as follow (gmt aligned) :

+0.25 % = 1.6338
0 % = 1.6297
-0.25 % = 1.6256 ( maybe your number is wrong here ? )

To avoid confusion on entry points / levels, I think it's better we all refer to gmt quotation (that's also Spieler's broker gmt align)
Sorry, yes -0.25 = 1.6256 on my chart also. Yellow line = yesterday's GMT close.

I am using MT4 with ibfx data feed which is on GMT time so much easier.
  • #817
  • Jul 30, 2008 8:35am Jul 30, 2008 8:35am
spieler-

A quick MM question please. I know that trading the hedge is not the same as taking a direct position in EUR/CHF and that you have said before that should you get caught going in the wrong direction on a sustained move it is much easier to hold the hedged position than a direct position. I was wondering what the difference in DD would be if say we went 5 entries without being able to externalize any profit, unlikely I know but still possible. According to the rules we would then be at between +/- 1.75%/ 2.00%.

If the distance between levels was say average 40 pips that would mean DD on a direct position of around max 320 pips+ five entry spread costs total 20 pips + total negative swaps if positions are short. In your experience what would the hedged positions apron DD be at that same level, taking into account that each hedged position pays around 7 pip spread cost on entry and also total negative swaps if short would be larger.
  • #818
  • Jul 30, 2008 9:09am Jul 30, 2008 9:09am
I never had 5 lots in a row without externalizing profit in between and dont forget we have profit before .
You will be the less lucky man on earth to start this system with 5 lots without a 0.25% pull back.

So stop at 3 if this situation occurs on your first day trading the system.
  • #819
  • Jul 30, 2008 9:10am Jul 30, 2008 9:10am
i started a leg on usd/chf short with 1.6 and finaly closed it with 12 pips almost 2k because it went south immediatly after .
You cannot do that by trading eur/chf
  • #820
  • Jul 30, 2008 9:29pm Jul 30, 2008 9:29pm
still short 1 lot with a small open loss
these last 2 weeks have been very poor in term of signals but all have been closed with a profit.
Waiting again ...............
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