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  • #1,761
  • Mar 19, 2026 1:57pm Mar 19, 2026 1:57pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- below are a couple of well known and in the lime light full algo traders....... at least one of them seems to never cease mentioning it....... notice their open strategy attributes..... if it was much worse it would be negative....... odds are yours is better....... but they both do very well, far better than any of us...... i'm 100% manual...... my opening attribute is around 4 , too low..... my closing is above 9 which is confusing because i feel it's far...
I am with Noisy on that.
I don't even look at those numbers. A few times I have and my reaction has been 'are you kidding me?' And the none religious version of that is 'FU Darwinex'.
Over all Darwinex produced stats are meaningless to me. Wouldn't miss any of it if they took it all down.
I am not a manual trader and I don't take directions from formulas on how to trade.
I rely on backtests, forward tests, observations, experience and how the flow in the market interacts with my trading method.
Think of it as a boat floating on the sea. With each wave and ripple it bops up and down and that motion varies with the severity of the winds.
My aim is to float and survive the worst.
I'm not going to be looking at the numbers that my moves generate and try to steer according to them. Not a manual driver here.
You are very numbers and formula focused as the screenshots of your indicators show. You look for numbers to set you straight.
I look at your pages and pages of numbers that your indicators generate and I think the way you thought of Hubbard's book.
Anyways, best trading advise I ever got was this: Keep doing what works and stop doing what doesn't. That is what guids my trading and I'm sticking with it.
  • #1,762
  • Mar 20, 2026 5:03am Mar 20, 2026 5:03am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I am with Noisy on that. I don't even look at those numbers. A few times I have and my reaction has been 'are you kidding me?' And the none religious version of that is 'FU Darwinex'. Over all Darwinex produced stats are meaningless to me. Wouldn't miss any of it if they took it all down. I am not a manual trader and I don't take directions from formulas on how to trade. I rely on backtests, forward tests, observations, experience and how the flow in the market interacts with my trading method. Think of it as a boat floating on the sea....

Have you received an allocation or even a payout with your Darwin yet?
  • #1,763
  • Mar 20, 2026 5:20am Mar 20, 2026 5:20am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Have you received an allocation or even a payout with your Darwin yet?
I have received allocations on my previous accounts but they concked out before getting payouts. One of them just a couple of days before the due date. So, no I have never received any payouts.
However, I am working on changing that situation.

As far as I know, there are only 2 traders on FF who have received payouts from Darwinex. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  • #1,764
  • Mar 20, 2026 6:14am Mar 20, 2026 6:14am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} As far as I know, there are only 2 traders on FF who have received payouts from Darwinex. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anybody else from FF received payouts from Darwinex (Speak Now :-) )?
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  • #1,765
  • Mar 20, 2026 6:23am Mar 20, 2026 6:23am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I have received allocations on my previous accounts but they concked out before getting payouts. One of them just a couple of days before the due date. So, no I have never received any payouts. However, I am working on changing that situation. As far as I know, there are only 2 traders on FF who have received payouts from Darwinex. Correct me if I'm wrong.
My money printing machine also unfortunately broke down prematurely. I'm currently working on version 2.0 before I re-enter the hell gates of the Darwinex universe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us.
  • #1,766
  • Mar 20, 2026 6:34am Mar 20, 2026 6:34am
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} Anybody else from FF received payouts from Darwinex (Speak Now :-) )?
I think most people in this forum still haven't even heard of Darwinex. There are probably very few, if any. Here are some general figures:

Summary of User Reviews & Payout Mentions for Darwinex Zero (DarwinexZero)

Review Volume

Trustpilot displays around ~320–340 total reviews for Darwinex Zero from users across regions.

General Sentiment of Reviews

  1. Overall Trustpilot rating is ~4.2 out of 5 stars from ~320–340 reviewers.
  2. Positive reviews (~68%) often highlight smooth payout experiences and successful profit withdrawals, e.g., users reporting multiple payouts sent directly to bank accounts without issues.
  3. Negative reviews (~18% one‑star) often do not mention payouts received, but instead complain about costs, slow payouts, risk engine issues, or difficulty getting allocations.

Payout Mentions in User Comments

Based on individual user comments in Trustpilot and similar review sources:

  1. Some users explicitly say they have received multiple payouts directly to their bank account during trading with Darwinex Zero.
  2. Others complain about not receiving a payout they expected or difficulty in achieving allocations that would lead to payouts.
  3. On Reddit and forums, anecdotal mentions exist of traders achieving allocations and earning real capital or performance fees, but all are individual accounts — not aggregated statistics.

Conclusion

At this time, no publicly available review data provides a clear numerical statistic on how many traders with a Darwin Index or DarwinexZero account have received payouts.

Here’s what can be said from user reviews:

Many individual users report receiving some payouts (e.g., multiple payouts sent to bank accounts) in their review posts.
There’s no verified aggregated statistic like “X % of traders have received payouts” from review data.
Negative reviews often point to issues or lack of allocations, which doesn’t necessarily mean payouts weren’t possible — just not achieved by those users

  • #1,767
  • Mar 20, 2026 6:48am Mar 20, 2026 6:48am
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} Anybody else from FF received payouts from Darwinex (Speak Now :-) )?
I know of myself and hayseed...perhaps sampat? yourself?
  • #1,768
  • Mar 20, 2026 6:50am Mar 20, 2026 6:50am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I know of myself and hayseed...perhaps sampat? yourself?
Not yet. Might take a couple of months if all goes well :-)
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  • #1,769
  • Mar 20, 2026 7:44am Mar 20, 2026 7:44am
I am pretty sure that only a couple of days ago he had about 1.3 mill of investment.
Anyone has a screenshot of his account from within the past few weeks.
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  • #1,770
  • Mar 20, 2026 7:48am Mar 20, 2026 7:48am
Quoting OutThere
I am pretty sure that only a couple of days ago he had about 1.3 mill of investment. Anyone has a screenshot of his account from within the past few weeks. {image}
Try https://web.archive.org

35 investors who currently have $TRO in their portfolios with a total of $ 919,102 (13 Nov 2025)
  • #1,771
  • Mar 20, 2026 7:58am Mar 20, 2026 7:58am
Quoting Noisy
Conclusion At this time, no publicly available review data provides a clear numerical statistic on how many traders with a Darwin Index or DarwinexZero account have received payouts.
//-----

somewhere in one of the question and answer videos jaun publicly stated the percentage of profitable traders...... it's similar to the industry......

what would raise that number is for like minded traders to form support groups...... and i'm not talking about that tribes stuff..... the same could be said for every prop firm.....

as for payouts, little over 17,000 has been deposited in my bank this month alone...... have made much more but i use option for earnings to pay for expenses, like subscriptions and boosters...... those earnings never leave london so never make it to my bank..... it's hard for me to see anything less than 10k per month going forward..... or more....

darwin seems to me our best chance at success...... it's still up to us.....

it's no guarantee.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,772
  • Mar 20, 2026 7:59am Mar 20, 2026 7:59am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Try https://web.archive.org 35 investors who currently have $TRO in their portfolios with a total of $ 919,102 (13 Nov 2025)

You already looked it up.
The last day the page was saved was Nov 13 2025.
It is hard to tell how much it really went up or down in between then and now.
But if you just go by these 2 numbers, then he didn't lose much investment relatively speaking.
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  • #1,773
  • Mar 20, 2026 8:16am Mar 20, 2026 8:16am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} You already looked it up. The last day the page was saved was Nov 13 2025. It is hard to tell how much it really went up or down in between then and now. But if you just go by these 2 numbers, then he didn't lose much investment relatively speaking. {image}
Yes, I still believe that the investor capital aspect hasn't really paid off for most of Darwins so far. I certainly wouldn't expect to ever raise nearly enough investor capital, outside of virtual allocations, to generate a truly significant return that justifies the time and effort. Imagine having enough investors after 5-10 years (the minimum time it has taken most top Darwins so far to raise a few million in investor capital) and then not even being able to rely on them keeping their capital invested in your Darwin...
  • #1,774
  • Mar 20, 2026 9:02am Mar 20, 2026 9:02am
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} Not yet. Might take a couple of months if all goes well :-)
Bought these target Boosters in Feb:

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Let's see how this goes :-)
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  • #1,775
  • Mar 20, 2026 9:43am Mar 20, 2026 9:43am
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} Bought these target Boosters in Feb: {image} Let's see how this goes :-)
//----

that's a tremendous capital outlay savings compared to my instant purchase......

now i only purchase a single 100k in the account and everything else is target type.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #1,776
  • Mar 20, 2026 9:51am Mar 20, 2026 9:51am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- that's a tremendous capital outlay savings compared to my instant purchase...... now i only purchase a single 100k in the account and everything else is target type.....h
Yes, but as I think you said in an earlier post, the probability of traders getting to 20% target is very low :-(

Nothing like having a crack!
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  • #1,777
  • Mar 20, 2026 2:05pm Mar 20, 2026 2:05pm
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} Anybody else from FF received payouts from Darwinex (Speak Now :-) )?
I have received multiple payouts from
allocations.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #1,778
  • Mar 21, 2026 3:33pm Mar 21, 2026 3:33pm
Quoting OutThere
I am pretty sure that only a couple of days ago he had about 1.3 mill of investment. Anyone has a screenshot of his account from within the past few weeks. {image}
Is TRO back to 1.5 million in investor capital?

Who is that 1 investor? Gone from 26 to 27 investors :-)
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  • #1,779
  • Edited 5:52pm Mar 21, 2026 5:36pm | Edited 5:52pm
Here's a list of all 12,674 DARWINs (As of March 22, 2026)

The file consists of two sheets:

The "DARWINs" sheet is the main data table. Each row represents one DARWIN and includes 13 columns: the darwin, type (Classic or Zero), country of origin, current quote, first trade date, return and maximum drawdown over the tracked period, assets under management (AuM), number of current investors, competition tier (Gold or Silver), current assignment value, investability status, and tribe membership.

All columns have filter and sort dropdowns enabled for quick exploration.

The "Frequency Distribution" sheet provides a percentage-based breakdown of all categorical and numerical columns – including type, country, competition tier, return ranges, drawdown ranges, AuM classes, and more. Because every distribution is expressed as a share of 100 %, you can directly compare subsets of different sizes with each other without the raw count distorting the picture.

What you can do with it:

* Filter and sort the DARWIN list by any combination of criteria, such as country, investability, or competition tier
* Identify top performers by sorting on return or drawdown
* Compare subsets – for example, Gold-tier vs. Silver-tier DARWINs – using the percentage distributions, regardless of how many records each group contains
* Analyse market structure, such as which countries dominate the platform, or how AuM is distributed across strategies

Example (AuM):

< 10K = 11.480 (90,58%)
10K-100K = 958 (7,56%)
100K-500K = 31 (0,24%)
500K-1M = 108 (0,85%)
1M-5M = 89 (0,70%)
5M-10M = 5 (0,04%)
>10M = 3 (0,02%)
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File Type: xlsx darwins.xlsx   1.2 MB | 97 downloads
  • #1,780
  • Mar 21, 2026 6:47pm Mar 21, 2026 6:47pm
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} Is TRO back to 1.5 million in investor capital? Who is that 1 investor? Gone from 26 to 27 investors :-)
Wow and WTF.

Maybe it is Juan investing a month worth of his earnings.
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