US GDP grew 4.3% in Q3, and it was ‘healthier’ growth | Forex Factory

  • US GDP grew 4.3% in Q3, and it was ‘healthier’ growth

    From freightwaves.com

    The U.S. economy posted robust growth in the third quarter of 2025, expanding at an annual rate of 4.3% according to the initial estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The acceleration from the second quarter’s 3.8% growth rate tells only part of the story, however. A closer examination of the underlying components reveals that the third quarter’s expansion was not only faster but built on a far healthier, more broad-based foundation than the growth recorded earlier in the year. The distinction matters because GDP can grow for reasons that reflect genuine economic vitality or for reasons that are ... (full story)

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Twocans
Jan 1, 2026 4:42pm
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All you Trump haters need to take a hard look at tariffs reported hype and maybe come up with a different narrative? Looks like they played you again, just maybe. You still wondering if the 'Big Boys' have been scooping the USD's while its been hammered to 10 year lows? We're just getting started with the second year in office... say it aint so...
Bakker
Jan 1, 2026 8:39pm
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A really good analysis Freightwaves!
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Schultz
Jan 2, 2026 12:09am — Edited
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What is this talk about tariffs? They are designed to affect imports. They have.

Imports are not made in the USA. They do not contribute to GDP.

Eventually they will (who knows when), but certainly not in the 3rd quarter GDP measure.

{if anything, a reduction in imports increases GDP. Technical, and has been explained elsewhere}
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Schultz
Jan 1, 2026 10:31pm
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Now the Fed really has to cut interest rates. A lot! Or else Powell will be fired!
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The Fool
Jan 1, 2026 10:01pm
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Quoting Twocans
All you Trump haters need to take a hard look at tariffs reported hype and maybe come up with a different narrative? Looks like they played you again, just maybe. You still wondering if the 'Big Boys' have been scooping the USD's while its been hammered to 10 year lows? We're just getting started with the second year in office... say it aint so...
Which tariffs? There have been threats of big tariffs, but those actually applied have mostly been far lower. Tariffs on imports from the EU are mostly capped at 15%. Tariffs on imports from China are continually being postponed and loopholed. Tariffs on imports from Mexico have not changed much, pending new negotiations on the USMCA. re: Mexico, most trade is covered by the existing USMCA and everything covered under that is exempt from any new tariffs. Actually, the same applies for Canada - everything from Canada covered under the existing USMCA is exempt from new tariffs.

I'm sure these facts don't matter to you, though. You want to get an unvarnished view of the effects of tariffs, go talk to some US farmers.

https://www.china-briefing.com/news/...ff-rates-2025/
The Fool
Jan 1, 2026 10:13pm
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I'm all for bringing back strategic industries to the US. But weaponizing all US foreign trade is a stupid way to go about making that happen. We'll see how it all plays out, and that'll be long after Donald Trump is gone.
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The Fool
Jan 1, 2026 10:26pm
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Common story for Taco Don. Make big threats and pull back to a meeker stance when those have little effect.

https://www.forexfactory.com/news/13...ti-trump-eases
The Fool
Jan 2, 2026 6:56am
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Quoting Trader#BBE1
{quote} LMFAO! All last year you said the tariffs were going to cause massive inflation, massive unemployment, and destroy the economy.
I said none of that, but even if I did, you fail to aknowledge the truth that the Trump tariffs are largely just threats at this point. We'll see what happens.
Trader#BBE1
Jan 2, 2026 2:58am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}Which tariffs? There have been threats of big tariffs, but those actually applied have mostly been far lower. T
LMFAO!

All last year you said the tariffs were going to cause massive inflation, massive unemployment, and destroy the economy.
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Huntpips
Jan 1, 2026 10:12pm
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This is a good one.
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Trader8722
Jan 1, 2026 11:43pm
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}Which tariffs? There have been threats of big tariffs, but those actually applied have mostly been far lower. Tariffs on imports from the EU are mostly capped at 15%. Tariffs on imports from China are continually being postponed and loopholed. Tariffs on imports from Mexico have not changed much, pending new negotiations on the USMCA. re: Mexico, most trade is covered by the existing USMCA and everything covered under that is exempt from any new tariffs. Actually, the same applies for Canada - everything from Canada covered under the existing...
Interesting
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Schweet
Jan 1, 2026 11:58pm
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All the participation medal runts are distraught.
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Trader#BBE1
Jan 2, 2026 7:01am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}I said none of that, but even if I did,
HAHA! You ARE so delusional. You spent the entire year of 2025 telling everyone tariffs were going to cause massive layoffs and inflation.
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Trader#815B
Jan 2, 2026 11:26am
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Professional journalism ethics, such as those defined by the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ), require reporters to "Seek Truth and Report It" by providing a "fair and comprehensive account". For economic reporting, this means - contextualizing Numbers: Reporting a single figure (4.3%) without explaining significant discrepancies like the 2.4% GDI or the data collection vacuum caused by the 2025 government shutdown is a failure to provide a "full story". GDP is nowhere near 4.3. Why are you publishing erroneous information, and misleading your readers?
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Trader#8CF4
Jan 2, 2026 11:32am
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Quoting Trader#815B
Professional journalism ethics, such as those defined by the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ), require reporters to "Seek Truth and Report It" by providing a "fair and comprehensive account". For economic reporting, this means - contextualizing Numbers: Reporting a single figure (4.3%) without explaining significant discrepancies like the 2.4% GDI or the data collection vacuum caused by the 2025 government shutdown is a failure to provide a "full story". GDP is nowhere near 4.3. Why are you publishing erroneous...
Yes why would they post the actual numbers when they could post what some libtard MSM journalist tells them the numbers should be
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Trader#D2B0
Jan 3, 2026 6:01am
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For all those people who running around saying that the GDP is an example of our wonderful economy - you should consider this:

Over the last year, the growth of consumer spending from the top 10% has grown at the fastest rate in the entire American history. GDP outside of consumer spending from the top 10% was flat and if you take out the top 20% it goes negative.

Additionally, we are at a 50 year high in the % of consumer spending by the bottom 80% that is financed with debt.

Finally, one great measure of the performance of the economy is divide the country into 3 groups of equal size: low, medium and upper wage and then take the median wage of each group.

In a healthy economy all are growing AND the median wage of the middle class should be growing faster - this would indicate that the middle class is growing and the ratio of the median wage of the lowest class and the upper class should be shrinking. In reality the exact opposite is happening to both.

The middle class workers have not see a gap against the upper wage workers to this extent since 2008.
The lower wage workers are seeing the largest decline in their incomes compared to upper income individuals since the 1930s.

This is not a healthy economuy
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Trader#E23B
Jan 2, 2026 1:45am
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This is a meaningless data point. Last time DJT admin reported GDP in 3rd quarter was Nov 2020 and that was 33.1% these numbers are fictitious at best.
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