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  • #50,881
  • Aug 30, 2025 3:48pm Aug 30, 2025 3:48pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} because i did set you on my ignore list years ago because you was big talker when your martingale did not crash fast, and after was crashing after some time you deleted account and restartet. (again with big mouth , like nothing happened).. i did see you do this again and again.. same like navk. maybe you are extrem loser, maybe big loser... whats the difference... all the time you presented yourself as a loser on the end and restarted.... just like a standard martingale trader with big mouth until busted, small aggressive child when busted...
You sound like those beggers on the street that just blab away with a raunchy voice and it is not clear if they are drunk or past due for their drug use or mentally ill. However, I congratulate you on putting me on your ignore list years ago and encourage you to not read my posts or reply to them as that is the purpose of ignoring someone.
  • #50,882
  • Aug 30, 2025 5:33pm Aug 30, 2025 5:33pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
️ ️️️️️️️️️️️ PLEASE ! PAY ATTENTION ,EVERYBODY ️️️️️️️️️️️️️ ALL THE SERIOUS TRADERS HAVE LEFT THIS THREAD SINCE THE MODERATOR IS NOT HERE...


Yes, it is getting fairly quiet in here. Kind of an echo chamber. A lot of "view post" buttons, and very little else. Thanks Stoneyrocks, see you over there.
"Wisdom is proved righteous by its works"
  • #50,883
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:08pm Aug 30, 2025 7:08pm
You are free to go.

But..

Be prepared to lose your money by paying fees. 50..50... countless.

Intraday only.
  • #50,884
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:10pm Aug 30, 2025 7:10pm
Quoting navk
Seriously want to lose your money in prop firm? Goto prop firm 2 thread. plsssssssssssss.

Hey how's your trading going?
Any more screenshots?
  • #50,885
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:13pm Aug 30, 2025 7:13pm
Quoting navk
You are free to go. But.. Be prepared to lose your money by paying fees. 50..50... countless.
Hey what do you mean by "Be prepared to lose your money by paying fees. 50..50... countless."
I'm feeling dense...don't get what you mean.
  • #50,886
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:18pm Aug 30, 2025 7:18pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Hey what do you mean by "Be prepared to lose your money by paying fees. 50..50... countless." I'm feeling dense...don't get what you mean.
I mean pay eval fee 50. Lose eval.

Pay fees again 50, lose eval again

......

There are many like this. Then funded account. Lose funded account.

Re - Start eval by paying fees.

This is countless expecially for newcomers.

Traders get addicted to prop firms as the fees are cheap.

Only few firms pay properly. Like tradeify, MFFU.

Trading a real money account, even with 100 dollar capital helps to learn.
Intraday only.
  • #50,887
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:24pm Aug 30, 2025 7:24pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Hey how's your trading going? Any more screenshots?
my acc doing good as usual.

I stopped a bit this week as i was focussing on other personal things.

Last thursday and friday traded.
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  • #50,888
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:42pm Aug 30, 2025 7:42pm
Quoting navk
{quote} I mean pay eval fee 50. Lose eval. Pay fees again 50, lose eval again ...... There are many like this. Then funded account. Lose funded account. Re - Start eval by paying fees. This is countless expecially for newcomers. Traders get addicted to prop firms as the fees are cheap. Only few firms pay properly. Like tradeify, MFFU. Trading a real money account, even with 100 dollar capital helps to learn.
Yes and it's not a surprise.
A lot of traders lose $50 or more/less on a single SL in real trading, so it makes sense to use that $50 to get a challenge account and trade a much bigger sum of money and get lucky a few times in a row.
It's kinda like being a smoker and going from smoking cigarettes containing over 7,000 chemicals to vapes containing around 200 chemicals,
It is still the same addiction but with a different look.
It's the 'need to trade' that keeps the act going. Very clever of the first ever prop that figured out a way to offer a better option for the price of just one single SL loss.
That addiction applies to me too, all the same.

Having said that, I am contemplating opening an FTMO account. Probably next week. I could even run this system on it...but I'm not sure if they are going to like or dislike it. I'm not spending 540 EU and just sit and wait for them to fail me and keep the fee. I'm not doing anything illegal and my own broker wouldn't have any issues but what if I'm flipping off some rule like I got in n out of a trade in under 3 seconds and x number of time I have done that bla bla.
I'm even thinking of just buying a 10K challenge just to find if my trading is to their liking. All the way to passing and beyond. Then if it's all good, I'd have to start another challenge with a 100K account.
There is just no other way to be sure 100% if a safe passage exists within their rules.
Or maybe I'm just paranoid.
  • #50,889
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:46pm Aug 30, 2025 7:46pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Yes and it's not a surprise. A lot of traders lose $50 or more/less on a single SL in real trading, so it makes sense to use that $50 to get a challenge account and trade a much bigger sum of money and get lucky a few times in a row. It's kinda like being a smoker and going from smoking cigarettes containing over 7,000 chemicals to vapes containing around 200 chemicals, It's the 'need to trade' that keeps the act going. Very clever of the first ever prop that figured out a way to offer a better option for the price one single SL loss. ...
Do this in FTMO demo first.

As for payouts, I dunno much. Long ago ( may be 2 year ago) i traded with them.

I would give more weightage on personal acc than doing a firm account.
Intraday only.
  • #50,890
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:50pm Aug 30, 2025 7:50pm
Private account growth will be very good.

1000 capital.

Just focus 50 dollar every day. 20 days, capital becomes 2k.

Then with 2k, focus on 100 per day for month 2

Then focus on 200 per day with 4k capital.

Goes on.. and on. this will not suit any trader with prop firm mindset.

Attached is for Friday.
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  • #50,891
  • Aug 30, 2025 7:55pm Aug 30, 2025 7:55pm
Quoting navk
{quote} my acc doing good as usual. I stopped a bit this week as i was focussing on other personal things. Last thursday and friday traded. {image}
Good job...
Thanks for the screenshot.
I mostly wanted to compare the overall look of your trades to see if they somewhat align with my demo trades. I'll check later n see,
  • #50,892
  • Aug 30, 2025 8:01pm Aug 30, 2025 8:01pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Good job... Thanks for the screenshot. I mostly wanted to compare the overall look of your trades to see if they somewhat align with my demo trades. I'll check later n see,
The main difference as i look is in a provate account, you do good for 7 days... or less, let us say you make 1k .

You can withdraw all 1k on 8 th day.

With prop firms, it is all delusional, all paper money, nothing is yours untill it is paid by firm. You are at the mercy of firm.

And of course, there is problem for USA traders. Not for us as canadians. W ehave options to choose.
Intraday only.
  • #50,893
  • Aug 30, 2025 8:09pm Aug 30, 2025 8:09pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Do this in FTMO demo first. As for payouts, I dunno much. Long ago ( may be 2 year ago) i traded with them. I would give more weightage on personal acc than doing a firm account.
Demo doesn't affirm anything.
I'm just making up this obscure rule (It's actually not obscure because some props have it) that if your trades are opening and closing within seconds, then we disqualify you.
Using a demo will not disqualify your demo if in your demo, you opened and closed trades within 3 seconds.
I talked to their rep already. I asked them if my system in their demo runs it's course successfully, does that indicate that it would run the same in a paid challenge account? As far as not breaking any of their rules I meant. He said the performance in the demo doesn't mean anything. The demo is just a demo running unsupervised and un-tracked. It's not meant to access and enforce their rules. He said the only way was to open the account and run it and see if it passes through.
  • #50,894
  • Aug 30, 2025 8:18pm Aug 30, 2025 8:18pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Demo doesn't affirm anything. I'm just making up this obscure rule (It's actually not obscure because some props have it) that if your trades are opening and closing within seconds, then we disqualify you. Using a demo will not disqualify your demo if in your demo, you opened and closed trades within 3 seconds. I talked to their rep already. I asked them if my system in their demo runs it's course successfully, does that indicate that it would run the same in a paid challenge account? As far as not breaking any of their rules I meant. He...
10k account 89 euros
Intraday only.
  • #50,895
  • Aug 30, 2025 8:30pm Aug 30, 2025 8:30pm
Quoting navk
{quote} The main difference as i look is in a provate account, you do good for 7 days... or less, let us say you make 1k . You can withdraw all 1k on 8 th day. With prop firms, it is all delusional, all paper money, nothing is yours untill it is paid by firm. You are at the mercy of firm. And of course, there is problem for USA traders. Not for us as canadians. W ehave options to choose.
Ya I know. There are traders that navigate that system very well. Can't deny that. I'm aiming to be one of them. And why not? You still can trade your private account and in the process you get even a 75% dd, you may still survive and even double the account. With a 100K account that 75% dd is now 7.5% or even .75%.... That's just what makes a near death catastrophic even of a near margin call event in a personal account into a breeze in the park.
It's just leverage. It's like a standard account trader suddenly arrives at a cent account environment and has the room to push the limits..not to the as far as they can go but to a safe distance, All that meaning, prop system has it's place and purpose and if one can get aligned, it can go well.
  • #50,896
  • Aug 30, 2025 8:39pm Aug 30, 2025 8:39pm
Quoting navk
{quote} 10k account 89 euros
Ya I know. I still prefer 100k for 540. And not waste time going the 10k/re challenge route.
But that's if I want to run this particular system.
I got other shi*t that I can work in a 100k challenge without fear and I am going in next week one way or another.
And getting very excited to start.
But tbh, this system is in no way ready for any real trading. There are many tests and stages of the market to get through and at every turn there is a ...um..drop? Broken bridge? Nothing ness? oh yah that's trading in general anyway.
  • #50,897
  • Aug 31, 2025 1:09am Aug 31, 2025 1:09am
Quoting navk
Private account growth will be very good. 1000 capital. Just focus 50 dollar every day. 20 days, capital becomes 2k. Then with 2k, focus on 100 per day for month 2 Then focus on 200 per day with 4k capital. Goes on.. and on. this will not suit any trader with prop firm mindset. Attached is for Friday. {image}
Based on the last couple of screen shots you posted, I can see that you only all sold on 28th and you only all bought on Aug 29 but at different times.
Here is a chart of GU with the 28th and 29th as the last 2 days.
Appears that you were trading against the predominant trend.
It depends of course on time entry which I didn't take into consideration.
Maybe you a contrarian, a pullback trader or maybe you are following the trends from the lower tf's.
Are you using Oanda and have all buy/all ell days cause you can't hedge or you do using different accounts or?

If one identifies a trend direction well and follow it calmly, it can be very rewarding.
I'm personally not that disciplined.
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  • #50,898
  • Aug 31, 2025 3:39am Aug 31, 2025 3:39am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Based on the last couple of screen shots you posted, I can see that you only all sold on 28th and you only all bought on Aug 29 but at different times. Here is a chart of GU with the 28th and 29th as the last 2 days. Appears that you were trading against the predominant trend. It depends of course on time entry which I didn't take into consideration. Maybe you a contrarian, a pullback trader or maybe you are following the trends from the lower tf's. Are you using Oanda and have all buy/all ell days cause you can't hedge or you do using different...
yea. I was selling on thursday, but buyon friday. ( using support zone )

lol
Intraday only.
  • #50,899
  • Aug 31, 2025 5:01am Aug 31, 2025 5:01am
Quoting navk
{quote} yea. I was selling on thursday, but buyon friday. ( using support zone ) lol
Different than I'm doing.
There are a million ways to skin the cat.
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