Delta Phenomenon

Hello.

I realise that this has become a 'corpse thread' (just love that description) but it sort of 'popped up' at the bottom of the screen while I was replying to someone on another thread.

The Delta Phenomenon and The Adam Theory of Markets??? Mumbo Jumbo??? I used to think so too. Now: I'm not so sure I'll tell you (at least insofar as Adam Theory goes anyway and in all fairness I never really gave The Delta Phenomenon 'a fighting chance' because it was WAY 'over my head').

Put it this was: my entire trading career has been based on Wilder's trading systems in 'New Concepts In Technical Trading Systems' (mainly his Swing Index System). I was given The Delta Phenomenon (just the book) and I think I even started a thread somwhere here at some point on the subject. But it was (or SEEMED to be anyway) a 'flaky' and without the software or being a member of The Delta Society it's not something I felt comfortable with i.e. WAY to much room for 'personal interpretation' (unfortunately I need 'trade-by-number' as in 'paint-by-number' technical trading systems that leave very little to my own intepretation or imagination). An not too long ago I decided to take a look at The Adam Theory of Markets (not for any particular reason I must add). I couln't help thinking that I've 'entrusted' my trading career and money to Wilder so why doubt his other, and later, works??? Well I was surprised. Put another way: even if you leave Adam Theory 'out of the equation' it's a FANTASTIC book (especially for any new traders). The text alone and the rules set out and the insights in the book are worth the price let me tell you. Anyway (again for no GOOD reason really): I've been 'dabbling' with Adam Theory for a little while now and that's why I noted above that I'm not TOO SURE that it's 'mumbo jumbo'!!! Alright: I don't trade FOREX but I DID in fact take a small short on EUR/USD based on Adam and, well, whether it be 'beginners Adam Theory luck' or Adam Theory that really does have merit I know not. But that trade turned out to be 'stellar'. Unfortunately I had to close it to cover a huge loss on the most SPECTACULAR of opening gaps that happened when the US Futures opened for Trading on Tuesday (well 'my' Tuesday anyway). But the point is that I'd STILL be short on that trade right up until today and even THAT trade I got in 'late' i.e. it would have been worth WAY more had I been 'solving (that word I got from my messing around with The Delta Phenomenon) Adam a few weeks prior because Adam would have had me 'in' at a much higher price. Not only that: but the trade never at ANY stage turned to a loss and obviously not a single whipsaw (which unfortunately is what I live with on a day-to-day basis trading my main trading system but I'm alright with that NOW anyway)!!! LOL!!!

Anyway: just my $100 worth on the subject.

If anyone is interested there is a current thread on this very topic that I have going on BabyPips (see the link below). Feel free to 'chime in' anybody that's interested. Alright: 'one spectacular trade doth not a trading system make'. That I'm fully aware of. But hey: I'm giving it (Adam Theory) a 'fighting chance' anyway. I THINK the difference between Adam Theory and The Delta Phenomenon lies in the fact that Adam Theory simply ensures 'forcibly' that you're trading WITH the market and not AGAINST the market i.e. it's not a 'prediction tool' (which was my INITIAL impression) as is, I believe, The Delta Phenomenon. And that's a BIG difference.

Anyway and like I said anybody interested can 'chime in' if they feel like it here:

http://forums.babypips.com/newbie-is...ilder-jnr.html

Regards,

Dale.

Edit:

After looking back on this thread I just realised that I'd been posting about The Delta Phenomenon right here back in 2008 already!!! LOL!!! Weird.

Have just come across this thread as I did an https://www.ixquick.com/eng/ search on DP and this thread was the third hit.

I did the search as in the very near future I plan to conduct proper tests of the DP. By proper tests I mean statistical tests, and not the type of testing some people bleat about such as "DP doesn't work because I lost money trying to trade it" or "It is too subjective because of the inversion" or "It only works in hindsight" etc. etc. etc.

I shall be posting about my tests on my blog at http://dekalogblog.blogspot.com/ where people can comment, offer suggestions etc. To avoid duplication I shall NOT be posting to or even following this particular thread any further. I invite interested parties to visit my blog.

Hi Sixer, fintrans,
I recently viewed the version of delta fenomenon from Mr Wilder
I was wondering, in yuor opinion, how is that working with all the QEs, etc...?
How can one learn more about Delta techniques, I heard there are improved version like the one from Mr Copan (the matrix)?
Best regards,
Pars

Hi all,
I use Delta to help in making trade decisions. I figured out how to eliminate the inversion problem and I think make it a little more accurate. The Delta books time frames are wrong, and this is why they have inversions. I'm trading gbpusd and am posting in this long thread about gbpusd. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=10378

I am not revealing how I do this due to potential value, but I make my trade calls on this thread. Just started posting April 5, 2015. Come and follow along.

By the way, Copan is a scam. Don't buy his stuff like I did and determined I wasted a bunch of money.

It all depends on which "Delta" you are referring to. The Delta concepts I created predates the concepts being referred to in this thread by many years. So, it depends on your point of reference and the actual definition of the Deltas being used. What the others don't talk about however, are the extensions from Delta concepts such as Trajectories and Vectors. The three go hand in hand with the lower two being derivatives of the first.

Absent the Delta, there is no market. Outside the Delta, there is no volatility or volume. Therefore, it must be super critical to understand. Trajectories and Vectors however, that's an entirely different ball game as they are the Directional components of the Non-Directional Delta and they set the absolute limits on Price Behavior. Sounds a bit odd, but not really.

Maybe that will be the subject matter for my 2015 annual visit - who knows.

There is a Regional Airline called "Delta Connection." There's also a very big hint in that statement as well. Finding out where, how and when the Deltas "connect" is the key. Of course, you have to be focused on the right Delta concepts to begin with.

Anyway, I just thought the OP was interesting. I must get back to work.

Hi,
The previous poster is referring to this: https://www.deltasociety.com/content...er-all-markets

Thank you, I did not know about that until you posted it.

I'm reminded of a scene from the movie Back to The Future, where the Professor says something like: "Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads."

To that, I can only say: "Direction? Where we're going direction no longer matters."

With that, I will simply keep my mouth shut and say, good night all.

My You Tube channel about the Delta Phenomenon. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCma...pCUr3Kb_u2NSAg

what aboat this
you dont have to find the right Order of ITD STD LTD,dont care this point is 1 3,or 7, just find the same struture in history, you know the time of the next critial point

then we can solve the rest of problems with prices

Is Delta dead? Don't see much activity lately just when I was cranking it up again and looking for cohorts to kick it around.

I bought the book over 20 years ago and see it now on Amazon for as low $30.

Recently I got re-interested for some reason and spent this weekend reading it. I worked out the points on a gold chart and had a developing point six. Placed a stop order Sunday night and am up $300 this morning (sim, not ready for real time yet).

I also use other systems and indicators which resolve to a single buy or sell signal. Delta either confirmed my signal or my signal confirmed Delta. Either way I will continue to test this thing.

Would like to have company in pursuing this - let me know if you are interested in doing some testing and keeping this thread alive.

Hi Monet, 6 years back heard about Delta but wasn't ready for it but recently got interested. How is your testing? I wish I would have done that with you.

I'm curious, too!