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  • #8,021
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:01am Oct 27, 2018 7:01am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} that sounds inexperience. sorry. of course a trade doesnt have to run to a fixed TP or fixed SL. it is only beginner's trading book that make you set 2:1 R:R and sit back and wait for either to happen. with news happening 24 hours, a trade setup just changing from minute to minute, and what may seemed good idea to be in an hour ago, suddenly best to be out. out as right now, not when a SL hit, not when a TP hit. it is not a game of roulette with black or red, and set payouts. one can change his bets, or his "payout" even after the ball is...
So Profitfarmer.....(and others....)

I hope for this you agree with me....

A TE on a demo account means nothing.......Just wait for people to blow up the account.....

A TE on a live account means nothing......not ONE serious trader would EVER consider it.....
  • #8,022
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:05am Oct 27, 2018 7:05am
Quoting AndresSR
{quote} So Profitfarmer.....(and others....) I hope for this you agree with me.... A TE on a demo account means nothing.......Just wait for people to blow up the account..... A TE on a live account means nothing......not ONE serious trader would EVER consider it.....
You misunderstood big time
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
  • #8,023
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:07am Oct 27, 2018 7:07am
Quoting 3ndlessHope
{quote} You misunderstood big time
Really?

So I have to prove my trading results on a forum?......

If we are close friends , I probably don't mind sharing them.......
  • #8,024
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:10am Oct 27, 2018 7:10am
Quoting AndresSR
{quote} Really? So I have to prove my trading results on a forum?...... If we are close friends , I probably don't mind sharing them.......
At this point i dont even understand what you are talking about.
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
  • #8,025
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:16am Oct 27, 2018 7:16am
Quoting 3ndlessHope
{quote} At this point i dont even understand what you are talking about.

Let me explain ......

Profitfarmer posted some stuff about trade explorers and the importance of it.....

And I just don't agree with that.....that's all

Then you jumped in with a "you misunderstood big time".....



Are you from Hungary?....(you profile says so....)
  • #8,026
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:25am Oct 27, 2018 7:25am
Quoting AndresSR
{quote} Really? So I have to prove my trading results on a forum?...... If we are close friends , I probably don't mind sharing them.......
IF you want too get taken seriusly for what you are saying on a forum where 95% are loosing and 95% are saying they are making green YES you must back up your claimes with proof thats not your fault its the generall population of theese forums fault nobody want too be a looser even almost everybody is this is the way this buissness stay in buissness all the small 200 dollar loosers are food for the pros that makes a living of this i have been struggeling and loosing money in the long run i know the system i have traded for 4 years now and been tweeking works,but as most others i struggle with disipline and i always keep a TE both for myself too have a good tradingjournal but also too know that everybody can see it soo it can help me with my disipline even i need too start of fresh once in a while i havent given up hope too become disiplined and make consistent profit of a smaller account even not many have TE`s that show that ,but there are some just look at top TE`s every week...And when i one day will make it i am sure too keep it up soo if i say someting on this forum people will know its not bullshit because backed up by a TE ...THATS JUST THE WAY IT IS....
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
  • #8,027
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:32am Oct 27, 2018 7:32am
Quoting 3ndlessHope
{quote} Please teach me the basics
you sound experienced in your statements, so looks like you have learned near all or have a longer trading time.
  • #8,028
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:33am Oct 27, 2018 7:33am
Quoting magne999
{quote} IF you want too get taken seriusly for what you are saying on a forum where 95% are loosing and 95% are saying they are making green YES you must back up your claimes with proof thats not your fault its the generall population of theese forums fault nobody want too be a looser even almost everybody is this is the way this buissness stay in buissness all the small 200 dollar loosers are food for the pros that makes a living of this i have been struggeling and loosing money in the long run i know the system i have traded for 4 years now and...
Hi Magne999,

If it helps you with your discipline to keep a TE.....good for you......If it is to "prove" others it is useless......

Discipline is one of the hardest......It is not so much about WHEN to trade.....but more about WHEN NOT to trade......

Once you understand the last.....things will work a lot better.......


About 95%?.....Yeah that's that "infamous" 5% story.....Well, that does not only apply to Forex trading........
  • #8,029
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:38am Oct 27, 2018 7:38am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you sound experienced in your statements, so looks like you have learned near all or have a longer trading time.
Hi Dukas,

Well, I am almost 54 now.....did my first trades when I was 18......Not Forex, but options....Gold and Silver

Did I blow up some accounts along the way?.....OF COURSE.....nothing comes for free....

Have I been a full-time trader in the past?....NO....advertising and IM

Anyway, nowhere close to pretend to KNOW everything.....but always open to learn more......

Cheers
Andres
  • #8,030
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:40am Oct 27, 2018 7:40am
My entrys are good 7-8 times out of 10 its when its going against me my head go out the window and i move my stops instead of just taking the loss i have tried everyting too stop it,but still have the problem even on demo soo theirs nothing wrong with my setups its just plain stupidity nothing else...I just need too learn too loose and thats not easy atleast not for me...And abaut the TE its totally up too you if you want to be taken seriusly ore not....
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
  • #8,031
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:45am Oct 27, 2018 7:45am
Quoting AndresSR
{quote} WOW Profitfarmer.......Some really impressive results....What are you doing here?...... Then again on a more serious note... Do you really watch FF's videos and read his posts? He is talking about stops and stop runs....Right? So then you also know where you can set your TP......I guess..... Probably my lack of experience if I am wrong.......
remember, you want to set rules for 2 parties, not only 1.
also, those stops well be within 20 pips range based on a M15 chart.
and finally, there is no real directional clue that they are likely to be hit, without a pre-stop hunt move, or with, even in Fractal's case.
a trader needs flexibility too, even a sniper need to have room to adjust his aim to the wind changes.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #8,032
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:45am Oct 27, 2018 7:45am
Quoting magne999
My entrys are good 7-8 times out of 10 its when its going against me my head go out the window and i move my stops instead of just taking the loss i have tried everyting too stop it,but still have the problem even on demo soo theirs nothing wrong with my setups its just plain stupidity nothing else...I just need too learn too loose and thats not easy atleast not for me...And abaut the TE its totally up too you if you want to be taken seriusly ore not....

Hi Magne999,

Most of all the last line of your comment......"And abaut the TE its totally up too you if you want to be taken seriusly ore not"....

Do you owe anybody an explanation?......

Stop wasting your time on that.......Instead learn trading......How the markets move and why.......
  • #8,033
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:46am Oct 27, 2018 7:46am
Quoting magne999
My entrys are good 7-8 times out of 10 its when its going against me my head go out the window and i move my stops instead of just taking the loss i have tried everyting too stop it,but still have the problem even on demo soo theirs nothing wrong with my setups its just plain stupidity nothing else...I just need too learn too loose and thats not easy atleast not for me...And abaut the TE its totally up too you if you want to be taken seriusly ore not....
then your acceptable personal risk paramaters is lower then what you trade.

calculate this value correct and then implement the strategy to this, and increase with time when this acceptable risk parameter will increase by percent (when you trust more in your strategy and get used to the numbers), or when your balance increased and so you have more lot to trade.....

when you have emotions in trading, always this acceptable personal risk parameter is total wrong calculated and used! its really this easy, thatwhy people think psychology is important for trading, because they simple use math not correct.

trading can be so easy, but can also be done so complicated...
  • #8,034
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:50am Oct 27, 2018 7:50am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} remember, you want to set rules for 2 parties, not only 1. also, those stops well be within 20 pips range based on a M15 chart. and finally, there is no real directional clue that they are likely to be hit, without a pre-stop hunt move, or with, even in Fractal's case. a trader needs flexibility too, even a sniper need to have room to adjust his aim to the wind changes.
Profitfarmer friend,

I think we have a serious misunderstanding........Can it be a language problem?

As I wrote no contest, let FF show...etc...but you keep on talking about 2 parties......

One more time...I only wrote up an idea, don't even know if FF agrees....
  • #8,035
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:53am Oct 27, 2018 7:53am
No i do not you just dont want too understand what i am saying why post someting that most think is bullshit???Its better too do someting else than too spend time here because as i say with all the bullshitters here you need credibility too be taken serius....Thats all i am saying...And how too get that???I rest my case and will not discuss this any further....And if you read what i wrote i am getting my small pips i just give them back when it goes against me..I dont need too know why the market moves for my 2-3 pips at t he time...I am sure you know exatly what you doo in your trading if you have traded for 37 years,but how should i know that when i dont see any proof its just the same as 10 others say but they are lying...How can i know you are not lying...
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
  • #8,036
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:56am Oct 27, 2018 7:56am
Quoting AndresSR
{quote} Let me explain ...... Profitfarmer posted some stuff about trade explorers and the importance of it..... And I just don't agree with that.....that's all Then you jumped in with a "you misunderstood big time"..... Are you from Hungary?....(you profile says so....)
Yes, i am from hungary

Backing up your claims is important when you are claiming such things as 95% winrate(why not 100% if you know what price will do next?) and stuff that nobody can do on this planet. Only you. At least it would be important to me, otherwise all you have is a big mouth or tricky marketing sh1t. If you are a very succesful person, be it fund manager or really anything, why is it a problem to put up a live account with 5k$? Hell even 100$ would be more than enough. Just show us, because if your statements are true, then we have been doing this thing wrong all the time! Or were you just trying to boost your ego and transfer some money from retail trader's pockets into yours? Everyone is free to think whatever he wants, but something is not okay with him, thats for sure. And i did not even mention his footprints on mql5 forums and many different places...
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
  • #8,037
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:56am Oct 27, 2018 7:56am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} then your acceptable personal risk paramaters is lower then what you trade. calculate this value correct and then implement the strategy to this, and increase with time when this acceptable risk parameter will increase by percent (when you trust more in your strategy and get used to the numbers), or when your balance increased and so you have more lot to trade..... when you have emotions in trading, always this acceptable personal risk parameter is total wrong calculated and used! its really this easy, thatwhy people think psychology is...
As i said its no different in demo and it doesnt matter if i trade 0.01 lots ore 1 lots its all abaut the winning ore loosing simple as that...I really doesnt doo this for the money i am in this for being able too beat the market the money is a bonus...And i and i get warm inside when i hear its not possible too doo 100% a month...It doesnt matter when you can make green pips consistent it doesnt matter if you trade 1 lot of a 1000 account ore 10000 account...
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
  • #8,038
  • Oct 27, 2018 7:59am Oct 27, 2018 7:59am
Quoting magne999
{quote} As i said its no different in demo and it doesnt matter if i trade 0.01 lots ore 1 lots its all abaut the winning ore loosing simple as that...
possible to program it and dont look into it?

demo trading is of course useless by learning any emotions, so of course here you trade useless, so this dont count.
in real, you should normally care about the money.
  • #8,039
  • Oct 27, 2018 8:00am Oct 27, 2018 8:00am
Quoting magne999
{quote} Can you doo the same with myfxbook i have been told that is impossible but with "Photoshop"ore whatever i guess everyting is possible,but as you say with the TE open soo you can follow trades its safe too say its for real....The one ting i miss in TE is drawdown is not recorded the way its in myfxbook if your equity has taken a dive its registered in myfxbook but not on the TE trades have too be closed in loss for drawdown too be registered...Dont shoot me if wrong,buts thats the way i have experienced it...
it is weekend, so, we can play.
look the details, it is dedicated to you! verified also!!

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the point is: a screenshot without some corresponding track record or actual trade proof = BS!
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #8,040
  • Oct 27, 2018 8:01am Oct 27, 2018 8:01am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} it is weekend, so, we can play. look the details, it is dedicated to you! verified also!! {image}
LOL wow i must say````well done
You win some you loose some do both with peace of mind
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