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  • #81
  • Oct 5, 2006 7:49am Oct 5, 2006 7:49am
Quoting jumper
Someone called me?
Hey friend who never sleeps. But you do sleep. And I know when... :
  • #82
  • Oct 5, 2006 7:50am Oct 5, 2006 7:50am
Quoting Horace Kent
Sorry if they're not clear.
Wow, I didn't even see the usd/cad trade. I think you may be ok. I'll magically make it go your way. PIPS for Horace please.
  • #83
  • Oct 5, 2006 7:51am Oct 5, 2006 7:51am
Quoting llambert3
Hey friend who never sleeps. But you do sleep. And I know when... :
Of course I do sleep. Even a bot needs to refuel.
I am JuMPeR.
  • #84
  • Oct 5, 2006 7:53am Oct 5, 2006 7:53am
Quoting llambert3
I'm not upset or uptight, just I feel like you are trying to say that I am trying to come up with excuses instead of admitting defeat. I admit defeat and took the loss. It is over with. I only posted the chart on here to see if that indeed could be another filter... I said "could this have failed BECAUSE" it was a question. It wasn't a statement.

It is ok. I am done with trying to explain. I will continue to post my guesses in the "Search for Filters" thread, and you can respond how you choose. No more offense to anything, even JUMPER>>>> but we're friends anyway since he lives in Europe somewhere.
Good luck
Try hard, think fast, die young
  • #85
  • Oct 5, 2006 7:57am Oct 5, 2006 7:57am
Sweet!

You know the magical thing though? When I created this thread, I called it "FAILED MOUTEKI TRADES - THE SEARCH FOR FILTERS"

Now magically, it would seem, the "failed" has been removed from the title. Weird huh?
Quoting llambert3
Wow, I didn't even see the usd/cad trade. I think you may be ok. I'll magically make it go your way. PIPS for Horace please.
  • #86
  • Oct 5, 2006 8:19am Oct 5, 2006 8:19am
Quoting Horace Kent
Sweet!

You know the magical thing though? When I created this thread, I called it "FAILED MOUTEKI TRADES - THE SEARCH FOR FILTERS"

Now magically, it would seem, the "failed" has been removed from the title. Weird huh?

Yes, very sweet. At least that is the goal - more winners than losers.
  • #87
  • Oct 5, 2006 8:21am Oct 5, 2006 8:21am
Quoting dof
Good luck
Thanks, and one day I may take up learning the significance of the filters you are using, but I get confused easily -
  • #88
  • Oct 5, 2006 9:44am Oct 5, 2006 9:44am
Seriously, how did the name of this thread change from FAILED MOUTEKI TRADES - THE SEARCH FOR FILTERS to what it is now. I myself didn't change it. So how?

HK
  • #89
  • Oct 5, 2006 9:49am Oct 5, 2006 9:49am
That's odd horace. Unless Mouteki changed it as he has mod status and if you didn't change it only a mod would have.
  • #90
  • Oct 5, 2006 9:49am Oct 5, 2006 9:49am
Horace, on the CAD short, the last pivot low could not have qualified as a pivot until 2 bars to the right of it. Then the trendline is drawn, which means the first bar to open under the trendline is the last bar on your chart, which means you should be in profit. I don't understand your trade ??
  • #91
  • Oct 5, 2006 9:55am Oct 5, 2006 9:55am
I changed the title I did not like the conotation of failed and felt that the imprtant part was the filters. Merlin has said that from time to time we may change titles to better reflect the content.

Thanks Scott ( Moderator)


Quoting Horace Kent
Seriously, how did the name of this thread change from FAILED MOUTEKI TRADES - THE SEARCH FOR FILTERS to what it is now. I myself didn't change it. So how?

HK
  • #92
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:03am Oct 5, 2006 10:03am
Hi RC,

Here's the trade. Please explain if I did something wrong.

best,
HK
Quoting trader416
Horace, on the CAD short, the last pivot low could not have qualified as a pivot until 2 bars to the right of it. Then the trendline is drawn, which means the first bar to open under the trendline is the last bar on your chart, which means you should be in profit. I don't understand your trade ??
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  • #93
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:06am Oct 5, 2006 10:06am
Hi Scott,

I understand. The purpose of this thread was for people to post charts of trades that didn't work out, (failed) so that we may learn if there is some sort of pattern in the winners and losers. Without something to that effect in the title, I don't think it will be clear the purpose of this thread, as there is already one dedicated to determining filters using Demarks' work and the like. Can we have something in the title to suggest my purpose for starting the thread?

Thank you for explaining.

best regards
Quoting smjones
I changed the title I did not like the conotation of failed and felt that the imprtant part was the filters. Merlin has said that from time to time we may change titles to better reflect the content.

Thanks Scott ( Moderator)
  • #94
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:11am Oct 5, 2006 10:11am
Quoting smjones
I changed the title I did not like the conotation of failed and felt that the imprtant part was the filters. Merlin has said that from time to time we may change titles to better reflect the content.

Thanks Scott ( Moderator)
Scott, remember jiggery pokery?
I am JuMPeR.
  • #95
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:11am Oct 5, 2006 10:11am
I see your point, I will put it back, but maybe we can think of something that is not so negative sounding... I am open to ideas. In the mean time I will put Failed back in. Thanks Scott
Quoting Horace Kent
Hi Scott,

I understand. The purpose of this thread was for people to post charts of trades that didn't work out, (failed) so that we may learn if there is some sort of pattern in the winners and losers. Without something to that effect in the title, I don't think it will be clear the purpose of this thread, as there is already one dedicated to determining filters using Demarks' work and the like. Can we have something in the title to suggest my purpose for starting the thread?

Thank you for explaining.

best regards
  • #96
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:14am Oct 5, 2006 10:14am
How about unsuccessful ?
  • #97
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:15am Oct 5, 2006 10:15am
Cool. Thanks Scott.

How about: "Learning from Failed Mouteki Trades"

Quoting smjones
I see your point, I will put it back, but maybe we can think of something that is not so negative sounding... I am open to ideas. In the mean time I will put Failed back in. Thanks Scott
  • #98
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:21am Oct 5, 2006 10:21am
"Learning from unsuccessful Mouteki Trades" works for me.
Quoting smjones
How about unsuccessful ?
  • #99
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:24am Oct 5, 2006 10:24am
Or something along the line of:

Filtering non-ideal Mouteki trades
I am JuMPeR.
  • #100
  • Oct 5, 2006 10:42am Oct 5, 2006 10:42am
Quoting Horace Kent
Hi RC,

Here's the trade. Please explain if I did something wrong.

best,
HK
Looks like a valid set up to me!
I fully understand your pov on the two different kind of tl breaks.
Mouteki said he uses price action only as an indicator. In your present loonie short there is possibly a 1-2-3 forming with the 2 at the 2nd tl point. 1-2-3, H&S, Candle patterns are all price action indicators. I ahve noticed that on some (not all) of Mouteki's very successful trades many of these other price action indicators are present.
Thoughts?
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