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  • #4,801
  • Oct 5, 2017 5:52am Oct 5, 2017 5:52am
Quoting Autokon
{quote} hi FOXTRADER16, my thoughts.if i may {image}
Thanks Autokon.
I have the exact same D1 zones marked based on the same analysis.

I am still in the trade which seems to have retraced 80 odd pips during the night.
Live life king size !
  • #4,802
  • Oct 5, 2017 6:37am Oct 5, 2017 6:37am
Quoting Akt
{quote} You don't need my help at all Autokon. To add to the comments i made on the picture i shared, A DBD SZ is forming right above as well at present. Agin making it challenging to go long for now best wishes
Hello AKT,
my thoughts
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  • #4,803
  • Oct 5, 2017 8:13am Oct 5, 2017 8:13am
Quoting Autokon
{quote} hi FOXTRADER16, my thoughts.if i may {image}
Hi Autokon, Nice thoughts you mentioned here. If I may ask, what is NDNS Volume at the bottom and what is the use of it in SnD methodology?
Thank you.
  • #4,804
  • Oct 5, 2017 9:56am Oct 5, 2017 9:56am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone some thoughts on the EURGBP Best wishes{image}{image}{image}
Hi Akt,

On the 4hr chart, I am curious as to why you have drawn the closest DZ where you have? My first instinct would be to place it above (as shown below) as there is a larger uninterrupted move away, or I would have at least extended the base to include this area. Please let me know your thought process.

Thanks,
Toby
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  • #4,805
  • Oct 5, 2017 11:41pm Oct 5, 2017 11:41pm
Quoting StylesT
{quote} Hi Akt, On the 4hr chart, I am curious as to why you have drawn the closest DZ where you have? My first instinct would be to place it above (as shown below) as there is a larger uninterrupted move away, or I would have at least extended the base to include this area. Please let me know your thought process. Thanks, Toby {image}
Hello Toby

The reason i identified the lower zone is primarily because it is the drop base rally which is at the extreme of the last rally high. In addition, if one was to trade the one you identified which is very correctly identified as demand by the way, it would be a challenge to trade that because i have a rule of never placing my stop inside a demand or supply zone. Trading the RBR would mean the stop would be sitting right bang into demand below. Never a good proposition because it leaves the stop vulnerable.
The levels are right on top of each other (often referred to as a Level-on-top-of-level). These are often quite strong zones, whether supply or demand.

So, for sure the RBR as you have shown is a correct zone, however, as explained above, there is a lot more nuance to it than identifying the zones.

I hope that helps

best wishes
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  • #4,806
  • Oct 6, 2017 5:08am Oct 6, 2017 5:08am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Toby The reason i identified the lower zone is primarily because it is the drop base rally which is at the extreme of the last rally high. In addition, if one was to trade the one you identified which is very correctly identified as demand by the way, it would be a challenge to trade that because i have a rule of never placing my stop inside a demand or supply zone. Trading the RBR would mean the stop would be sitting right bang into demand below. Never a good proposition because it leaves the stop vulnerable. The levels are right...
Very usefull, thanks!
  • #4,807
  • Oct 6, 2017 6:49am Oct 6, 2017 6:49am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Toby The reason i identified the lower zone is primarily because it is the drop base rally which is at the extreme of the last rally high. In addition, if one was to trade the one you identified which is very correctly identified as demand by the way, it would be a challenge to trade that because i have a rule of never placing my stop inside a demand or supply zone. Trading the RBR would mean the stop would be sitting right bang into demand below. Never a good proposition because it leaves the stop vulnerable. The levels are right...
Thank you Michael, makes sense.
  • #4,808
  • Oct 6, 2017 10:32am Oct 6, 2017 10:32am
Good day everyone! Thoughts on the GBP/USD?
Confirmation or SAF?

 

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  • #4,809
  • Oct 7, 2017 7:55pm Oct 7, 2017 7:55pm
Hello All,
Just wanted to ask you guys that as an SAD trader what things should I consider to create my watchlist of 4 to 5 stocks for every week. I am using Tradingview as my primary charting platform for my analysis.

thanks.
  • #4,810
  • Oct 8, 2017 7:16am Oct 8, 2017 7:16am
Quoting rohit.dwd32
Hello All, Just wanted to ask you guys that as an SAD trader what things should I consider to create my watchlist of 4 to 5 stocks for every week. I am using Tradingview as my primary charting platform for my analysis. thanks.
Hello,

I trade the W/D/4H sequence, so when it comes to making my watchlist for the upcoming week, I focus on pairs where the price is close to / already in the weekly supply or demand zone. I also like to monitor pairs where price reacted violently to these zones in the past week, creating 4H fresh supply (in case of an anticipated down move) or 4H fresh demand (in case of an anticipated up move). These are the setups that provide the most probabilities regarding my curve.
  • #4,811
  • Oct 8, 2017 7:23am Oct 8, 2017 7:23am
Quoting Duvdevan
{quote} Hello, I trade the W/D/4H sequence, so when it comes to making my watchlist for the upcoming week, I focus on pairs where the price is close to / already in the weekly supply or demand zone. I also like to monitor pairs where price reacted violently to these zones in the past week, creating 4H fresh supply (in case of an anticipated down move) or 4H fresh demand (in case of an anticipated up move). These are the setups that provide the most probabilities regarding my curve.
thanks for sharing your thoughts
  • #4,812
  • Oct 8, 2017 7:53am Oct 8, 2017 7:53am
Quoting Duvdevan
{quote} Hello, I trade the W/D/4H sequence, so when it comes to making my watchlist for the upcoming week, I focus on pairs where the price is close to / already in the weekly supply or demand zone. I also like to monitor pairs where price reacted violently to these zones in the past week, creating 4H fresh supply (in case of an anticipated down move) or 4H fresh demand (in case of an anticipated up move). These are the setups that provide the most probabilities regarding my curve.
Do you contemplate trades along valid weekly TL only or there are some other options in your trading planes? When the trend is irrelevant?
Regards
  • #4,813
  • Oct 8, 2017 8:56am Oct 8, 2017 8:56am
Hi Michael, hope you are well. Really enjoyed your last webinar so i was wondering when will your next one be? I don't want to miss it.

Thanks.

Ghazi.
  • #4,814
  • Oct 8, 2017 6:31pm Oct 8, 2017 6:31pm
Quoting ghaziali226
Hi Michael, hope you are well. Really enjoyed your last webinar so i was wondering when will your next one be? I don't want to miss it. Thanks. Ghazi.
any video link for last webinar?
  • #4,815
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:15pm Oct 9, 2017 3:15pm
Hello AkT

i had a question concerning the curve time frame, if for example your highest TF is the weekly chart and you were in an uptrend and your upside momentum was broken would you then reference the monthly chart ? or do you never look at the monthly chart if your a swing trader using W-D-H4.

Thank you in advance !!
  • #4,816
  • Oct 9, 2017 8:41pm Oct 9, 2017 8:41pm
Hi Akt,
I'm another late arrival to a superb thread. Thank you very much for creating and driving it.
I've skimmed a bit but will go back and read all of it thoroughly.

I started looking at Sam Seiden's videos about 2 yrs ago and began to combine the ideas with a lot of what Darkstar was describing about market micro-structure and sentiment. The S&D levels have made a massive difference to the way I trade (most days I make a few bucks - unlike before). It's now part of the evening ritual - find fresh levels and then check the likely direction.
The best part is that I've now got something I feel confident to lean on when I fade a move.

Many thanks for your comment on trends - what a magic way to see them - just price moving between S&D levels. Insightful. That changed my thinking even more .
Thanks again for the thread. I'll get back to my reading...
Cheers.
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  • #4,817
  • Oct 9, 2017 10:30pm Oct 9, 2017 10:30pm
Hi Akt and all,

Comments welcome on some of my ideas:

AUD USD:

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  • #4,818
  • Oct 9, 2017 10:32pm Oct 9, 2017 10:32pm
Cocoa demand zone possible trade:

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  • #4,819
  • Oct 9, 2017 10:35pm Oct 9, 2017 10:35pm
Coffee possible supply zone in daily downtrend

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  • #4,820
  • Oct 10, 2017 12:38am Oct 10, 2017 12:38am
Hi guys,

I'm new to S.A.D. Way of trading. Can you guys please share your charts here.

Thank You Very Much
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