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  • #5,581
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:41am Jun 23, 2017 2:41am
Quoting Bones
Well Mag you have to buy into the fact we had more children because they died and because you need them I guess , and as soon as you live in a developed environment that number drops Here a professor explains why we will go to 11 billion ,and why Africa have many more babies which is not to do with intelligence at all on those lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyzBoHo5EI {quote}
Tony I don't buy into ANYTHING - I question EVERYTHING.

The programme reported a widespread fall in the birth rate and seemed to leave it at that. In fact, birth rates are increasingly diverse, both between and within countries.

Rosling may be a good statistician, but his understanding of the dynamics of birth rates and the environmental challenges we face is shaky.

https://www.populationmatters.org/hans-rosling-ecologically-illiterate/
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  • #5,582
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:45am Jun 23, 2017 2:45am
Quoting Magog
To all Brits and Brexiteers HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY {image}
Fantastic! Should I copy it onto page 1??

A year ago when we were so full of hope, could we imagine then where we are today?
  • #5,583
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:46am Jun 23, 2017 2:46am
Quoting DrManhatten
https://youtu.be/M5ls2SS4ezw Something doesn't smell right about this story. What do you think?
Should bloody learn to drive!
  • #5,584
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:48am Jun 23, 2017 2:48am
Yes I do question everything
birth rates are falling without doubt
then I see the only theory will be right but I won't be around to see it
you'd have to show me something to say different to say its wrong


Quoting Magog
{quote} Tony I don't buy into ANYTHING - I question EVERYTHING. The programme reported a widespread fall in the birth rate and seemed to leave it at that. In fact, birth rates are increasingly diverse, both between and within countries. Rosling may be a good statistician, but his understanding of the dynamics of birth rates and the environmental challenges we face is shaky. https://www.populationmatters.org/hans-rosling-ecologically-illiterate/
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  • #5,585
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:48am Jun 23, 2017 2:48am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Unfortunately it is democracy - Khant was elected through a democratic vote and the majority of Londoners(who are now Muslims) voted for him - this is as good as it gets I'm afraid.
I think there are ways to deal with this and believe they lie in the Magna Carta
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  • #5,586
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:49am Jun 23, 2017 2:49am
Quoting Bones
Well Mag you have to buy into the fact we had more children because they died and because you need them I guess , and as soon as you live in a developed environment that number drops Here a professor explains why we will go to 11 billion ,and why Africa have many more babies which is not to do with intelligence at all on those lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyzBoHo5EI {quote}
Wow - Isn't he delightful and I love the way he wanders around the stage with a whack-off spear in his hand.

I'm going to have to look at a lot more of his work though - that content was excellently explained.

So 11bn it is.

So that's 4 bn televisions 12bn next gen mobile phones then there's - tablets - computers - Cars - trucks - fridges et al. all being required as Africa starts becoming a little less poor. And the food chain. Industries to support that. Research to make that food supply increase possible.

Seems to me like a number of companies can do really quite well off the back of this in the next 50 years before they plateau along with population levels.
  • #5,587
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:49am Jun 23, 2017 2:49am
Quoting Bones
well thats how the subject started regarding Africa and IQ ,you understand population will rise ,but the trend is down eventually based on history population will fall unless trend changes Africans have babies because they need big families to get by ? also they see their children die young , {quote} {image}
Ok so world pop in 1950 was 2.5b - now its 7.5 - and fertility rates are decreasing.
Can someone explain basic math to me plse coz I am missing something here
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  • #5,588
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:50am Jun 23, 2017 2:50am
Quoting nbfx
{quote} Strewth - he really is a waste of space. I really liked Boris and while I didn't necessarily agree with his political ideals, I really liked Ken Livingstone too. In spite of him being a lefty, I thought that on the whole he was a very good mayor. Both of them stood up for London and were like Dogs with Bones. This one is actually really quite pathetic by comparison.
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  • #5,589
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:53am Jun 23, 2017 2:53am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I think there are ways to deal with this and believe they lie in the Magna Carta
What we need in this country is benign dictatorship and resurrection of the Empire LOL
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  • #5,590
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:57am Jun 23, 2017 2:57am
lol Mag you need to watch the video , so it takes generations to see the fall

Quoting Magog
{quote} Ok so world pop in 1950 was 2.5b - now its 7.5 - and fertility rates are decreasing. Can someone explain basic math to me plse coz I am missing something here
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  • #5,591
  • Jun 23, 2017 2:58am Jun 23, 2017 2:58am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Tony I don't buy into ANYTHING - I question EVERYTHING. The programme reported a widespread fall in the birth rate and seemed to leave it at that. In fact, birth rates are increasingly diverse, both between and within countries. Rosling may be a good statistician, but his understanding of the dynamics of birth rates and the environmental challenges we face is shaky. https://www.populationmatters.org/hans-rosling-ecologically-illiterate/
OK so either there's gonna be more people to sell stuff to or there's gonna be even more people to sell stuff to (reading between the line here). The question is how soon will they be able to afford them? Either way markets are expanding and investment opportunities will abound. that's the mesage I'm taking from this. Am I wrong?
  • #5,592
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:00am Jun 23, 2017 3:00am
Quoting nbfx
{quote} Well it seems those "luxury" flats that were going to be assigned to survivors aren't quite all they seem. There is a luxury complex, BUT the developer was required to build a number of social homes to be let at 'Fair rent' through some housing trust and it is these that are being assigned. They were due for completion in October, but the developer will have them ready in July. Something still stinks on the whole thing.
It is a Section 106 requirement. For planning permission to be given for a development over about 15 homes, there needs to be a social requirement of 15-25%. This is a ball park and varies from council to council. It is all in the name of "social mobility." It is ensuring that the "rich" don't get nice exclusive pleb free estates.What happens is that all the big executive homes get built first and they get sold. Then not long after, all the "affordable" stuff gets built next door to you, when you've just spent a mil for something decent. Those affordable homes will get filled with fat scroungers on benefits for the best case scenario. You just hope it doesn't get filled with our quota that Merkel has let in. So you want your kids to mix with other similar middle class kids at school? Hahaha, the council has stitched you up like a kipper there!
  • #5,593
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:02am Jun 23, 2017 3:02am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Fantastic! Should I copy it onto page 1?? A year ago when we were so full of hope, could we imagine then where we are today?
Absolutely - but I'm biased LOL
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  • #5,594
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:05am Jun 23, 2017 3:05am
Quoting Bones
lol Very true apparently supply and demand works in nature just the same makes people change behaviour less men the shorter the skirts {quote}
Doesn't quite work like that. Women would rather share good catches than have one useless lump each. By sharing I don't mean bed hopping; I mean the good ones get recycled.
  • #5,595
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:07am Jun 23, 2017 3:07am
Quoting jen101
{quote} It is a Section 106 requirement. For planning permission to be given for a development over about 15 homes, there needs to be a social requirement of 15-25%. This is a ball park and varies from council to council. It is all in the name of "social mobility." It is ensuring that the "rich" don't get nice exclusive pleb free estates.What happens is that all the big executive homes get built first and they get sold. Then not long after, all the "affordable" stuff gets built next door to you, when you've just spent a mil for something decent....
Methinks if you can afford a Mil and a half upwards you can probably afford a good private school - Westminster School is but a short journey and it is one of the best in the country although your offspring will probably end up like Clegg (isn't he an OW?)
  • #5,596
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:08am Jun 23, 2017 3:08am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Absolutely - but I'm biased LOL
Take a look.
  • #5,597
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:08am Jun 23, 2017 3:08am
Quoting Bones
Yes I do question everything birth rates are falling without doubt then I see the only theory will be right but I won't be around to see it you'd have to show me something to say different to say its wrong {quote} {image}
A relative of mine said something similar to me recently and my response to him(and you) was

No but our grandchildren will and I'm sure they are not gonna thank us for fcking things up

Anyway if my calcs are right it's gonna happen in the UK in the next 12 yrs and I think I'll still be arnd then

It's also the most selfish statement I ever heard anyone make EVER.
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  • #5,598
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:12am Jun 23, 2017 3:12am
Quoting nbfx
{quote} Methinks if you can afford a Mil and a half upwards you can probably afford a good private school - Westminster School is but a short journey and it is one of the best in the country although your offspring will probably end up like Clegg (isn't he an OW?)
Depends on the area. £500k is minimum for a 4 bed detached in the southern half of the country. Decent sized, £600k+. Within 1 hour of London, £800k+. Inside M25, easily £1m+.

Plus I would rather my kids go to a good grammar than private. I want them to earn it, not be given it.
  • #5,599
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:13am Jun 23, 2017 3:13am
Quoting Bones
lol Mag you need to watch the video , so it takes generations to see the fall {quote}
And you need to stop watching dodgy videos and start applying some critical thinking.
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  • #5,600
  • Jun 23, 2017 3:14am Jun 23, 2017 3:14am
Quoting Magog
{quote} What we need in this country is benign dictatorship and resurrection of the Empire LOL
Well, the left want to do away with democracy anyway!
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