the way the big players trade?

well i think the true formular for success in the fx market is always stay disciplined to your stratergy.

This sure is one interesting thread..and on market manipulation, that is just not possible on the spot market. However, it can be done if the market is limited to an extent like futures, central banks can restrict futures trading to prevent devaluation of their currency..

Ok, everybody talking about price action. Price action means somebody have to move the price from standstill. Lets say, somebody uses patterns/support and resistances/Breakouts/Indicators or systems, With the help of these things sombody move the price in market.

Retail investors are small players so they have small accounts. My point is as a small trader, myself do reverse trading system means observe the price action for 10-20 minutes and place either buy/sell order at market price then place stoploss sell/buy order at my risk % per trade with three times of first order (lots). i dived the my risk % into 6 parts and trade at diffrent times in a day.

Chart patterns will help a lot. Chart studying is an art.

Lets say, traditional indicators will not work in 1 minute/5minute/30minute/4 hours/day/weekly/monthly why? All time frames have some time trend and most of times rangebound. Never proved this timeframe will work consistantly.

According to time frame risk/reward ratio varies.

Sorry for my poor english. I wil join again soon.

Working on the sell side of FX at an IB I can first tell you that you can move the market with a large enough flow, it can be as little as $50 mio.

Next thing, the people get paid on the absolute amount of money they make, so if they make $100mio for the bank they will get a percentage of this, which is good if you can make this, but if I then say it's from $10bio worth of flow (which is another way of saying $10bio of capital), it's only a 1% return, it doesn't look so great as on the buy side people are more interested with percentage returns.

Yeah, agreed with emda, majority hire programming expert to trade, and this computer trade higher accuracy than human eye can capture. Instead of secs difference.. maybe comp is capture in nano seconds with higher accuracy..

Programming and coding aside... I can't help but think that the "pro" guys just have a ridiculous starting capital to get their feet off the ground... I mean, I'm totally new to this, but even in my short time of doing some quick research, some of it just doesn't make sense... unless they are already loaded and can started with a loaded account and stack the success...

At which point, for folks like me who'd need to get a "micro" account or whatnot.. it'd be trading just because trading would be something I enjoy to do, as any sort of real monetary income couldn't really happen unless I"m moving serious pips when I trade..

Just to made it clear, I don't think that banking robots use any sort of fibunacci .. a string computer have better ways on calculating levels than fibunacci can - fibunacci is just sort of simplification of that - everyone who looks at a chart can clearly see, that there are levels end that there are S/R bounces.

But dont forget to mention - if you have billions of money in your inventory and you see, that one trade may go wrong - what stops you to just blow your backup into the market to give it the right impulse.

I am sure it is possible for a bank to estimate how much money actually exists in the market and how big the "extra-blow" has to be to work.

That is what makes the market more like a poker game than blackjack ;-)

If the system doesn't generate profit they are no more likely than you to survive at this game.

A larger bankroll gives you more staying power provided you keep your trading size low. That is merely the only advantage. They have more time to figure what they are doing wrong.

A system that is not profitable will not magically become profitable by trading with more money.