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  • Sep 1, 2018 2:19am Sep 1, 2018 2:19am
  •  SilentFather
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Quoting Swnlobo
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{quote} Hi, One question please: the line derived by the channels cross acts as a magnet for price. Is that it? Thanks and Regards S.
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Yes and if price touch the cross exactly, price will reverse.

SF
 
 
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Quoting SilentFather
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we have finally a working system. We know what to check and what to see
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Sorry, SF, but I'm still confused about the main idea.
Quoting hepsibah
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The pattern to look for is a spike on one channel being crossed by the opposite channel
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We still don't have a filter to know:
wether
price is going to return to the cross line
or
price is going to make new HH|LL and continue the trend
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In other words:
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c) you have any ideas as to how to predict the return time
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Or I have missed something?
 
 
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  •  since80808
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By the way,
My eyes often see a picture like this "cap":
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(upper OR lower band "crosses" ITSELF with spikes)
I think it's just a variant of SF's blue indicator's trendline technic,
but it strongly gives return&TP as I can see. And repeats often.
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The question is where to set SL? Not a nearest spike, not a current band price are good.
 
 
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  • Sep 1, 2018 7:21am Sep 1, 2018 7:21am
  •  SilentFather
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{quote} Sorry, SF, but I'm still confused about the main idea. {quote} We still don't have a filter to know: wether price is going to return to the cross line or price is going to make new HH|LL and continue the trend . In other words: {quote} Or I have missed something?
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Sadly not. The thing is that band will penetrate the band and return back. This works 99% of the time. I saw one that never came back but it is only matter of time. But as said, no have has the filter. I believe the filter is the normal price.

SF
 
 
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  •  SilentFather
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By the way, My eyes often see a picture like this "cap": {image} (upper OR lower band "crosses" ITSELF with spikes) I think it's just a variant of SF's blue indicator's trendline technic, but it strongly gives return&TP as I can see. And repeats often. . The question is where to set SL? Not a nearest spike, not a current band price are good.
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Signal is correct buy. I might have a filter, I will check it as soon as possible.

SF
 
 
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  • Sep 1, 2018 7:55am Sep 1, 2018 7:55am
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{quote} Signal is correct buy. I might have a filter, I will check it as soon as possible. SF
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I mean we can add this "cap" to the system patterns collection
 
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{quote} Hi, One question please: the line derived by the channels cross acts as a magnet for price. Is that it? Thanks and Regards S.
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Yea they do mate but like I said..enter trades with PA confirmation. You welcome
Read in between the price!!!
 
 
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  • Sep 3, 2018 2:52am Sep 3, 2018 2:52am
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{quote} Sadly not. The thing is that band will penetrate the band and return back. This works 99% of the time. I saw one that never came back but it is only matter of time. But as said, no have has the filter. I believe the filter is the normal price. SF
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I belive we need to trade without SL. But use SL as a balance. For example we deposit 100 eur and our risk is 100eur if we make 100 eur we withdraval it if we lose then deposit another 100 eur.
 
 
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  • Sep 3, 2018 3:38am Sep 3, 2018 3:38am
  •  SilentFather
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{quote} I belive we need to trade without SL. But use SL as a balance. For example we deposit 100 eur and our risk is 100eur if we make 100 eur we withdraval it if we lose then deposit another 100 eur.
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It Is possible but not really needed for example if you scalp. Even then if you enter with exact rules, you will be more in profit than in negative balance.

SF
 
 
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{quote} {image} So...I didn't take the bounce trade on gbpjpy, because I was asleep , however the trend line was respected, price paused at that level, broke it, it came back to it, became resistance and bounced down from it. Took a small trade for small profit (all trail and error for me at the moment. I'm starting to really like these lines Cheers Ezzy
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Which indicator is that? I mean, the blue one for MT4. I saw back there lot's of trying. Which simulate better on MT4 this blue indicator from ctrader?
 
 
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{quote} Which indicator is that? I mean, the blue one for MT4. I saw back there lot's of trying. Which simulate better on MT4 this blue indicator from ctrader?
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Hi mmassad, the indicator on my chart is the blue indicator, that has been posted in this thread for MT4.

Cheers
Ezzy
What you do is a reflection of you....what I do is a reflection of me.
 
 
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  •  cuchuflito
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{quote} I belive we need to trade without SL. But use SL as a balance. For example we deposit 100 eur and our risk is 100eur if we make 100 eur we withdraval it if we lose then deposit another 100 eur.
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But then you loose the value of compound...
500 Euros:
100 Trades a month, with a tiny 0,2 R edge, compounds roughly to a million in a couple of years.
That is the challenge!
To trade for 100 bucks a day?...too much work for little money.("mucho trabajo, poco dinero").
 
 
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  • Sep 4, 2018 9:48am Sep 4, 2018 9:48am
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{quote} It Is possible but not really needed for example if you scalp. Even then if you enter with exact rules, you will be more in profit than in negative balance. SF
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Excuse me,
Do you mean trendlines strategy or channel cross?
Do exact rules regulate SL?
 
 
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  • Sep 4, 2018 10:03am Sep 4, 2018 10:03am
  •  SilentFather
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{quote} Excuse me, Do you mean trendlines strategy or channel cross? Do exact rules regulate SL?
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Channels and TL too
 
 
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  • Sep 4, 2018 2:55pm Sep 4, 2018 2:55pm
  •  ficibald
  • Joined Oct 2014 | Status: Lazy Trader | 871 Posts
[quote=cuchuflito;11438848]{quote} But then you loose the value of compound... 500 Euros: 100 Trades a month, with a tiny 0,2 R edge, compounds roughly to a million in a couple of years. That is the challenge! To trade for 100 bucks a day?...too much work for little money.("mucho trabajo, poco dinero").[/q 1uote]
Me gusta sun un dos tres quatro sinkonses pappy. If pattern what we talk anbout works 99%of time. then its best money managment by logic not to use stop loss
 
 
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  • Sep 4, 2018 3:29pm Sep 4, 2018 3:29pm
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{quote} But then you loose the value of compound... 500 Euros: 100 Trades a month, with a tiny 0,2 R edge, compounds roughly to a million in a couple of years. That is the challenge! To trade for 100 bucks a day?...too much work for little money.("mucho trabajo, poco dinero").[/q 1uote] Me gusta sun un dos tres quatro sinkonses pappy. If pattern what we talk anbout works 99%of time. then its best money managment by logic not to use stop loss
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This is also something personal.....i rather have a 1:2 risk to reward and a 60 %winning percentage .... I don't like big DD and cut my losses early, you can also use a emergency stop but I think this is something personal
 
 
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  • Sep 4, 2018 9:49pm Sep 4, 2018 9:49pm
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{quote} Channels and TL too
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Channels losses almost every time to me Almost every time. I use big SL but it continues trend usually and hit SL. How do you guys make it win 99% - I just don't know.
 
 
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  • Sep 5, 2018 3:23am Sep 5, 2018 3:23am
  •  hepsibah
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{quote} Channels losses almost every time to me Almost every time. I use big SL but it continues trend usually and hit SL. How do you guys make it win 99% - I just don't know.
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I'm not sure what approach you are taking but this is some of the easiest money I have ever made trading manually. Identifying the trend is key for my strategy - after that I wait for spikes in the channel in the appropriate direction to appear and trade towards them.

I've tried to show the strategy in the chart and my trades so far this morning (it still has a bit further to go down). Ultimate SL is a trend change but putting in a BE after the move covers you. Price usually reaches the spike but I tend to place the TP a few pips above as it can stall around the spike area.
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  • Sep 5, 2018 3:39am Sep 5, 2018 3:39am
  •  cuchuflito
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{quote} This is also something personal.....i rather have a 1:2 risk to reward and a 60 %winning percentage .... I don't like big DD and cut my losses early, you can also use a emergency stop but I think this is something personal
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Math is math, you can put a stop, control your drawdown, organize your bets, equalize your Risk.
If you then have an edge, AND compound.
Then BINGO, you get to invite Warren (Buffett), for lunch, and you pay the bill.
Like I said, itīs only very simple math...donīt forget, if you have an edge, run it through compound (excell, easy)...input average number of trades, expectancy, etc..

Simply put: 10 % monthly, COMPOUNDS to triple your account in a year.
Thatīs already ourstanding, some people do 10% a week.

Only problem for many, is once big money comes in , lot size getīs too big for some brokers.
(Btw. it is not my case...Iīm barely BEven!)
Best trader I know, mentioned, that once you get your game working, you make so much it should be forbidden!!!!!!!!

Worth a try correct?
Just my humble 2 cents.
 
 
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  • Sep 5, 2018 7:50am Sep 5, 2018 7:50am
  •  Jimmyf
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{quote} I'm not sure what approach you are taking but this is some of the easiest money I have ever made trading manually. Identifying the trend is key for my strategy - after that I wait for spikes in the channel in the appropriate direction to appear and trade towards them. I've tried to show the strategy in the chart and my trades so far this morning (it still has a bit further to go down). Ultimate SL is a trend change but putting in a BE after the move covers you. Price usually reaches the spike but I tend to place the TP a few pips above as...
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Hi Hepsibah, can you indicate what your confirmation was to enter the trades you made going short targeting the spikes lower?
thanks in advance.
 
 
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