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  • Dec 10, 2019 4:57pm Dec 10, 2019 4:57pm
  •  edwardko
  • | Joined Dec 2019 | Status: Member | 24 Posts
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I entered long AU when the LO made the dark blue area in the morning (have not saved screenshot then) and vertical green marked candle crossed it (+spread). What have I done wrong? {image}
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Hi S80808, Please accept my apologies if I am talking rubbish as I have only started using this methodology no more than 10 days ago and so my observations may not be technically correct.

From what I can see and according to my broker, the Lowest Open was established 12:00 @0.68140. At 13:00, a marginally higher open @ 0.68142 was printed and so the lowest open was still 0.68140.

I am not sure whether you have used a stop order or a market order, but I would have placed a buy stop based on the 0.68140 lowest open as adjusted by your spread. This may or may not trigger as the subsequent high at the 13:45 candle was 0.68142 and if it did, then this would be a losing trade and one that you would put to statistics.

As you can see from my own posts, I like to add 1 pip + spread to the lowest open for my buy stop price. This is in breach of rule 2 and have already been picked up twice by Too Slow, but had I traded this entry, I would have had a deleted Buy Stop order instead of a small loss. Ultimately, there is no such thing as a free lunch because the extra pip I add in would have resulted in a reduced lot size (I use % risk) and generated less profit if it went my way. I guess from TS' experience, rule 2 would probably be optimal and having stop losses taken is just statistical and a fact of trading.

On the other side of the equation, you can also see that it has broken thru yesterday's low to create a new low for the day in one strong 6 red bar downward move before stabilising in a narrow 5 pip range. With hindsight it is easy, but at the time of your entry, would this be seen as "jumping in front of a freight train"? I don't know the answer to this one and would defer to the more experienced members of this community.
 
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  • Dec 10, 2019 8:53pm Dec 10, 2019 8:53pm
  •  TooSlow
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{quote} I know TS that you had commented on this same point previously, but I guess it is a personal preference to perhaps reduce the probability of a false breakout.
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No such thing exists. A breakout out of 1 point is still a breakout.
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  • Dec 11, 2019 2:08am Dec 11, 2019 2:08am
  •  since80808
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{quote} Hi S80808, .
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Thanks for your details!
But, please, once again just for my understanding - here with real time screenshots:
Are my entry candles right? (marked with the arrows)
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  • Dec 11, 2019 2:16am Dec 11, 2019 2:16am
  •  edwardko
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{quote} Thanks for your details! But, please, once again just for my understanding - here with real time screenshots: Are my entry candles right? (marked with the arrows) {image} {image} {image}
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In general, I think you're on the right track. comments though -

GBPUSD - I think you should not enter before 02:00 server time Additionally, both NY and London markets are closed, whilst it has drifted up 25 pips, there is little volume until the European sessions open.

USDJPY - I've been watching this all day and I don't like the entry levels - boxes are big and the movement so far has been in a tight band.

AUDUSD I like better but am staying focussed on UJ until I have completed my 10 Trade Challenge

Hope this helps.
 
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  • Dec 11, 2019 3:39am Dec 11, 2019 3:39am
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And once again
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  • Dec 11, 2019 6:02am Dec 11, 2019 6:02am
  •  Lawnman
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And once again {image} {image}
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Let me first state: I am no expert.

Looking at my chart, your first entry candle on AU made a new high by 1 pipette, maybe you entered prior to that. The second entry (AU) was during an hour that made a new Daily high as well (two candles back from entry). I don't believe these were by the rules.
Wow! I've got some experience to gain.
 
 
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{quote} Thanks for your details! But, please, once again just for my understanding - here with real time screenshots: Are my entry candles right? (marked with the arrows) {image} {image} {image}
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Read the rules on your chart. Did you follow the rules? A trader must rely on themselves.

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{quote} In general, I think you're on the right track. comments though - GBPUSD - I think you should not enter before 02:00 server time Additionally, both NY and London markets are closed, whilst it has drifted up 25 pips, there is little volume until the European sessions open. USDJPY - I've been watching this all day and I don't like the entry levels - boxes are big and the movement so far has been in a tight band. AUDUSD I like better but am staying focussed on UJ until I have completed my 10 Trade Challenge Hope this helps.
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Have you mastered this method? Have you mastered trading at all? Do you have data to back your comments or it is just your opinion? Mate, trading is serious business. Cheers!

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  • Dec 11, 2019 5:30pm Dec 11, 2019 5:30pm
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  • Dec 12, 2019 4:27pm Dec 12, 2019 4:27pm
  •  edwardko
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UJ 10 Trade challenge - Trades 9 and 10. UJ fell early on during the Day and bounced off lower open and for the whole of the Asian session drifted higher by around 18 pips. New high for the day was created at around 09:40 server time and pulled back. M15 did not provide any entries and so dropped down to M5. First entry (Trade 8) was made when prices re-entered the Zone of Interest for the second time (Missed the first retest). Prices didn't hold and SL was taken with 1R loss.

Kept on the charts until new high was formed at around 11:50 server time and sold at 12:10 after the new hour created a higher open and a smaller box. Went to bed and let position on auto pilot. 1st 1/2 was closed with 5 pips profit as was 2nd part to give a 1.1R return.

Overall for the two trades 0.1R.

My thanks to Too Slow for sharing his methodology and guiding us newbies and to Lemercenaire for his encouragement. It has been a worthwhile journey with 8 winners (including BE+1pip) and 2 losses netting 7R over the 10 trades.

I will certainly continue using and expanding this methodology to other pairs and honing this newly acquired skill set.
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  • Dec 12, 2019 6:13pm Dec 12, 2019 6:13pm
  •  lemercenaire
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UJ 10 Trade challenge - Trades 9 and 10. UJ fell early on during the Day and bounced off lower open and for the whole of the Asian session drifted higher by around 18 pips. New high for the day was created at around 09:40 server time and pulled back. M15 did not provide any entries and so dropped down to M5. First entry (Trade 8) was made when prices re-entered the Zone of Interest for the second time (Missed the first retest). Prices didn't hold and SL was taken with 1R loss. Kept on the charts until new high was formed at around 11:50 server time...
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Well done and hopefully you will indeed continue to test and expand your knowledge base in what is an admirably controlled manner.

If you do, I have no doubt you will be successful.
 
 
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  • Dec 13, 2019 7:01am Dec 13, 2019 7:01am
  •  hhc
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{quote} Not pissing down your leg. YouTube has videos of the ADVANCED ALIEN CIVILIZATION TECHNOLOGY indicators.
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Hi, by any chance the author that your are referring to is "TheRumpledOne" on youtube?. Thank you.
 
 
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  •  lemercenaire
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{quote} Hi, by any chance the author that your are referring to is "TheRumpledOne" on youtube?. Thank you.
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Maybe...
 
 
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  •  aa33030
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TooSlow, the only problem I see is that we don't know which H1 candle will be the high/low of the day even if the current candle is the highest/lowest of the day so far. H1 candles after the current candle might go even higher/lower???
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I trade the op's strategy using the daily candle, in this way it would be easier to detect the highs and the lows
 
 
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  • Dec 16, 2019 7:24am Dec 16, 2019 7:24am
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My first trade challenge on this thread
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  • Dec 16, 2019 8:35am Dec 16, 2019 8:35am
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Closed BE+1
 
 
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Chfjpy lost...audchf BE+1
 
 
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