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  • First Post: May 26, 2015 3:00am May 26, 2015 3:00am
  •  Spox
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 60 Posts
If you tested some real accounts and you know that arbitrage is feasible with use of them, please provide broker name and account type(Market Maker, ECN, STP)
Please, do not post that arbitrage is not possible etc... It would be good for readers if this thread contains only brokers/accounts appropriate for arbitrage trading.
There are other good threads for discussion if arbitrage is doable or not. Thank you.
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  • May 26, 2015 7:25am May 26, 2015 7:25am
  •  ChanhXanh
  • | Joined Jul 2012 | Status: Member | 250 Posts
Also Bear in mind, that arbitrage across brokers used to be popoular few year ago... (well as you requested, I wont enter more deeply in discussion).

you might try brokers that offer Risk-free swap, short NZD/USD and long NZD/USD with a broker that offers swap.... (but anyways, those are bucket shops and they wont let you withdraw your profits...)
 
 
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  • May 28, 2015 8:07am May 28, 2015 8:07am
  •  tradingboy
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Nov 2013 | 34 Posts
I do not do arbitrage trading but ADS Securities advertise an ECN account that they claim is suitable for "arbitrageurs/scalpers"!!!:
http://www.ads-securities.co.uk/accounts/ecn-account/
 
 
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  • Jun 10, 2015 2:47am Jun 10, 2015 2:47am
  •  Spox
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 60 Posts
Another broker who allows arbitrage: https://www.jfdbrokers.com/solutions...-trader-4.html
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All EAs welcome (i.e. including latency and correlation arbitrage), under all market conditions and on all asset classes.
 
 
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  • Jun 10, 2015 4:24am Jun 10, 2015 4:24am
  •  Soros
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Edge,Phsycology And Money Managemen | 949 Posts
share Arbitrage strategies please
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
 
 
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  • Jun 10, 2015 4:53am Jun 10, 2015 4:53am
  •  BubaYaga
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Another broker who allows arbitrage: https://www.jfdbrokers.com/solutions...-trader-4.html {quote}
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Ha ha - Yeah, I'm sure they allow latency arbitrage ea's -they just don't allow you to withdraw funds gained using latency arbitrage.
Luck favors those who know the statistical probabilities.
 
 
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  • Jun 10, 2015 5:26am Jun 10, 2015 5:26am
  •  Spox
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 60 Posts
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{quote} Ha ha - Yeah, I'm sure they allow latency arbitrage ea's -they just don't allow you to withdraw funds gained using latency arbitrage.
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If you do not trust jfd or other particular broker then it is easy to withdraw money using specially created, trustworthy, true ECN broker account. You don't need to withdraw money from broker that you use for arbitrage! When you gained profits on some account then you can open two opposite orders(same volume) manually: 1st position on account with profits(arbitrage account) and the 2nd position on special ECN account(withdrawal account). You do it to lose profits on profitable arbitrage account but they just go to your ECN account, which will easily let you withdraw your gains.
 
 
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  • May 13, 2016 9:19am May 13, 2016 9:19am
  •  fteller
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Dec 2010 | 182 Posts
If you use software that allows you to keep trades longer then couple ms (for example 10 sec +), some brokers will be ok with your trades. usually it is true ecn brokers. But in this case you need really fast feed. I use bjf latency arbitrage and it is not open a lot of trades, but no problem with broker.

My idea - 40% per month with low risk settings. I know that some traders catch arbitrage situations 1-2 pips difference, in this case software opens a lot of trades and closes trades within ms. I use difference =5 and for gold 8-10 pips. SL should be very short maybe 1-2 pips higher then spread for this currency + trailing. In this case you will have major trades with length >1 sec. I had no problem to withdrawal from several broker including instaforex (they have limitation on trades duration) .

I also tried fix api acc., but results on mt4 was better. fix api account work only with fok or ioc orders and it is not so many arbitrage situations. My opinion: if you are not lazy and your goal stable 30-40% per month, and you are trying to figure out how it work, you will constantly make money trading arbitrage and it is almost 0 risk trading.

P.S. If somebody knows brokers who do not allow EAs trading, please share. I would like to try manual trading emulation.
 
 
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  • May 13, 2016 4:33pm May 13, 2016 4:33pm
  •  Mitbrad
  • | Additional Username | Joined Jun 2014 | 51 Posts
Vipro Markets, ICM and Tickmill all allow arbitrage. My favorite is latency arbitrage on the DAX index.
 
 
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  • May 13, 2016 8:05pm May 13, 2016 8:05pm
  •  fteller
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Dec 2010 | 182 Posts
Quoting Mitbrad
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Vipro Markets, ICM and Tickmill all allow arbitrage. My favorite is latency arbitrage on the DAX index.
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yes, it is only one problem with dax - you need to readjust offset time to time.
 
 
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  • Jun 6, 2016 8:28am Jun 6, 2016 8:28am
  •  dr_who
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: Member | 452 Posts
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If you use software that allows you to keep trades longer then couple ms (for example 10 sec +), some brokers will be ok with your trades. usually it is true ecn brokers. But in this case you need really fast feed. I use bjf latency arbitrage ............
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Do you work for BJF by any chance as most of your recommendations relate to their software which seems a little suspicious ?
He was looking for the card so high and wild hed never need to deal another
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2016 8:11pm Jul 7, 2016 8:11pm
  •  luizinho
  • | Joined Jul 2016 | Status: Junior Member | 2 Posts
Quoting Mitbrad
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Vipro Markets, ICM and Tickmill all allow arbitrage. My favorite is latency arbitrage on the DAX index.
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Hello! You know whether it release arbitration latency?
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2016 8:17pm Jul 7, 2016 8:17pm
  •  luizinho
  • | Joined Jul 2016 | Status: Junior Member | 2 Posts
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P.S. If somebody knows brokers who do not allow EAs trading, please share. I would like to try manual trading emulation.
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I have the same situation and would like to test this in arbitration latency, but as I am newbie still do not know what the best pairs and brokers. share some ideas if possible. Thank you.
 
 
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  • Jul 21, 2016 6:41am Jul 21, 2016 6:41am
  •  jiggz
  • | Joined Oct 2011 | Status: Member | 440 Posts
im no EA guru, but i guess there are actually brokers that allow withdrawal of profit through arbitrage trading? i thought most brokers banned this
 
 
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  • Jul 23, 2016 7:24am Jul 23, 2016 7:24am
  •  jollypk
  • | Additional Username | Joined Apr 2016 | 411 Posts
I also have the same feeling that many brokers does not allow such kind of trading and consider it as abusive trading, so most of the time many of the brokers refuse to pay such profits earned with this kind of trades.
 
 
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  • Aug 17, 2016 1:03pm Aug 17, 2016 1:03pm
  •  fteller
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Dec 2010 | 182 Posts
Yes, it is not very easy way to make money but if you learn about arbitrage and understand how to trade arbitrage, you will never use other strategies :-)
Because arbitrage is low risk and high profit.
To be able to withdrawal money you need to use right arbitrage methods.

The symbols to trade: dax, gbpusd, exotic currencies, oil
 
 
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  • Aug 30, 2016 9:43am Aug 30, 2016 9:43am
  •  surajsingh
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 4 Posts
Hi Fteller,
what is your arbitrage strategy?
You are currently using EAs? Could you tell me which ones?
Thanks
 
 
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  • Sep 20, 2016 1:35pm Sep 20, 2016 1:35pm
  •  fteller
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Dec 2010 | 182 Posts
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Hi Fteller, what is your arbitrage strategy? You are currently using EAs? Could you tell me which ones? Thanks
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No I use bjf arbitrage. I am thinking to program my own, but it is so expensive to have own fast feed.
 
 
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  • Sep 20, 2016 1:57pm Sep 20, 2016 1:57pm
  •  TaDaDa
  • | Joined Jan 2014 | Status: Member | 79 Posts
Hi fteller, may I know what is the expected return per month using BJF on live account? And also what is the relative draw down.
 
 
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  • Oct 2, 2016 10:10pm Oct 2, 2016 10:10pm
  •  fteller
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Dec 2010 | 182 Posts
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Hi fteller, may I know what is the expected return per month using BJF on live account? And also what is the relative draw down.
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return depends from broker. Up to 100%
dd about 5%
if you trade dax and indexes, return can be up to 10-150% with higher dd (maybe 10-15%)
 
 
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