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Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Ask him (Vigovsky) maybe..i trust him and i think i will soon/after a while buy his dashboard (already almost no time to trade due to my cold season daily job...but who knows...i already changed my mind about waiting summer before buying Eitan system so... who knows)..... ...but i put myself in your shoes and understand perfectly
Well if you do end up purchasing his dashboard or Eitan's system, then I think I speak for everyone here that it would be a great idea to open up your own trade explorer to show the results.
Quoting ArchangelG
{quote} Well if you do end up purchasing his dashboard or Eitan's system, then I think I speak for everyone here that it would be a great idea to open up your own trade explorer to show the results.
I thought about it for the Eitan system (in the end i purchased it), for stopping all the craps said here and there about that. Maybe in summer when i have more time to trade and follow trading related things, i will open my own thread with a TE
The problem about TE anyway are always two, IMHO:

1- whatever you do there will be always people that will have something to say...i would'n like for example to show the trades in the TE cause i am NOT a FREE SIGNAL dispatching service for everyone (though i share some of my trades in friends' thread)
2- if you are a commercial member (i am not and not planning to become, but just for the sake of discussion...) anytime you have some bad periods (and everyone have it after or before), the armada of witch hunters (in this thread there are many) will start shouting scam scam...and for an honest person, this is really is tough to hear.

Well...anyway, the future is still to be written.
Quoting billytt
The Martingale method was named after the French man Martingale. and another losing method can be named DB or dbx method. Enter the trade and never close it when it goes against you. So it will never be a loss. Give me money and I will show you how to do it lol
Wow this thread has changed. Where is pippy ??

I don't mind trading without a stop that's the way I do my scalping and keep adding. If you patient and wait for pull backs at worst you should average out. Lol for the fearless only.

Martingale is a different issue and I don't like. Both methods are dangerous.

Worrying thing is I used to work for DB!! i know a guy at UBS hits 100% month in month out. Sure he works all the hours in the world and gets in huge messes, but it can be done.
Quoting billytt
The Martingale method was named after the French man Martingale. and another losing method can be named DB or dbx method. Enter the trade and never close it when it goes against you. So it will never be a loss. Give me money and I will show you how to do it lol
Billy, that was your friend / idiot's method
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} I thought about it for the Eitan system (in the end i purchased it), for stopping all the craps said here and there about that. Maybe in summer when i have more time to trade and follow trading related things, i will open my own thread with a TE The problem about TE anyway are always two, IMHO: 1- whatever you do there will be always people that will have something to say...i would'n like for example to show the trades in the TE cause i am NOT a FREE SIGNAL dispatching service for everyone (though i share some of my trades in friends'...
I don't know Eitan. I have followed SMRI with interest at first, which then died when I read further.

What strikes me is the following:

Despite his threads, and apparently successful systems...he nor any members on threads have ever showed any signs of consistent gains using the systems.

SMRI for one is still being optimised. It's far from a complete system.

Any time Eitan's name is mentioned in a slightly negative way, a flock of people come forward to viciously defend him, and attempt to suspend those who dare question him.

Can you see how this is a little confusing? Shouldn't his results do the talking for him? Not just a few screenshots of apparent success, but a verified tracked TE either here, or MyFxbook.
Then, why be concerned with a few naysayers if the results are there? Eitan claimed forward testing of 3 years....It really should be no problem to attach a simple account statement.

You have bought his system. I don't know it. I hope it works for you and the others. But are you really surprised that people don't share your optimism?
Saying you are considering buying Vigovsky's dashboard further casts doubt on the idea that you have been sold a sold, comprehensive system from Eitan.
If Eitan's system is the grail you've been looking for, why bother with anything else?

Or, as with SMRI..is it possible that there are so many variables that it becomes a curve fitting exercise, where in any given scenario, conditions are retrospectively analysed to give the optimal results? Entry? PT? SL?
Is a 2 hour consultation all you need to trade your way to success in the FX world?! Are all the unsatisfied customers dealt with in the same fashion as MIkiMax?

Before the torches are lit, and the mob starts to march...remember this is a simple question!

A question that could have been very simply addressed with a long running TE from any one of the apparently profitable methods Eitan has shared for free, or otherwise.

I really hope that one person starts a TE, even in Eitan's thread...to back up these bold claims. You must understand that claims of close to 100% win rate is one that will raise the eyebrows of any seasoned trader.

Please don't use the "free signal service" excuse as a reason not to post a TE. By all means hide the finer details of your trades.....most people do!! They will not be reversed engineered if you hide the details.

But, instead of just with words of how honest the guy is, won't someone please put up some sort of proof that the systems are any good?!
If the system wasn't commercial, there would be no issue...but now it is a sold method.
Surely some scrutiny other than the good will of his followers is a fair ask!?
He may be a wonderful guy...but the fact is, once a person sells something...it is a business transaction, and is therefore subject to scrutiny...and the burden of proof rests with the vendor.

The only TE of an Eitan system I found available is the following: http://www.forexfactory.com/sivi/14
Over 86 days, you have to admit that it is not the most compelling!?
A little further away from the purported possible gains!

Sure..I know...we will hear "he does not understand the system" or some such thing.

By all means...show us the way!

This is not an attack on anyone...
It is only a question. Or series of questions!

I look forward to a real answer.
Wealth comes from what you keep, not what you earn
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Quoting claudia1
{quote} Wow this thread has changed. Where is pippy ?? I don't mind trading without a stop that's the way I do my scalping and keep adding. If you patient and wait for pull backs at worst you should average out. Lol for the fearless only. Martingale is a different issue and I don't like. Both methods are dangerous. Worrying thing is I used to work for DB!! i know a guy at UBS hits 100% month in month out. Sure he works all the hours in the world and gets in huge messes, but it can be done.

Hello Claudia, I am making a point of how DB (not the bank) is a complete waste of space. He calls many good traders , bans them and totally contradicts himself. Anybody can trade with a 50/50 outcome and when on the right side it looks good. But look at u/j what he did no stop, play money just keep adding on went minus 20+ and today it dropped a bit and he probably creamed himself and then went back up,
He speaks about renting his method out for pennies and IF he did use real money he would need 10s of thousands of pounds to trade this method, Oh well . I hope he likes his frog in a well....
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
Quoting jen101
{quote} Billy, that was your friend / idiot's method
IF you had a half decent method with stats it can be done, What DB has to offer is stupid words, even more stupid drawings and even more stupid than a stupid thing is crayon colours which he probably took off a child, and I do not wish to go there,
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
News about daddybear scammer
I have to put some haters on the ignore list to focus on DBX discussions.
He want to focus on discussions, not on trading.
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I must be thankful for DBs trading ability, He told me to long e/u but it dropped, I am only 2800 pips down (no idea of pipettes) but I am not losing because the trade is still open, good job I am adding in too, wooooooooooo frog time ribbet ribbet, good job I have millions in the bank to carry my DBX trades
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} I thought about it for the Eitan system (in the end i purchased it), for stopping all the craps said here and there about that. Maybe in summer when i have more time to trade and follow trading related things, i will open my own thread with a TE The problem about TE anyway are always two, IMHO: 1- whatever you do there will be always people that will have something to say...i would'n like for example to show the trades in the TE cause i am NOT a FREE SIGNAL dispatching service for everyone (though i share some of my trades in friends'...
1 If your system really works ...why are you afraid of people bashing your TE..let your results speak for your self and make them eat their words.
2 Haha....free signal service. As other guy said , you dont have to show everything ...you can put on your TE and nobody can figure it out.

Lol ...about summer thing , does that imply that , you are not even trading eitan system right now....

If it smell like witch and looks like witch ....it is witch. And there in nothing wrong in hunting that m....r f.....g witch.
Quoting billytt
{image} I must be thankful for DBs trading ability, He told me to long e/u but it dropped, I am only 2800 pips down (no idea of pipettes) but I am not losing because the trade is still open, good job I am adding in too, wooooooooooo frog time ribbet ribbet, good job I have millions in the bank to carry my DBX trades

Please don't be silly.

DX has been trading for 30 years and has a 50K$ Live account.
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EJ H1 DBX
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indicates when H1 GOLD crossed under H4 LIME, EJ broke down.
Now H4 LIME is going to cross under D1 GREEN.
When it happens, EJ is going to break down again.



This guy is really crazy. He should learn trading instead of posting fake signals. He's wasting his time
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} Do not give excuses to hide your trading capacity. Scalping? I love scalping as well. I made 1,000 pips today by scalping EJ and GJ. You can only scalp 2 pips per day. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=512495 When posting messages please be fair and honest. {image}

As I said DB you're great joke and a real scammer. I hope your clients have seen your desesperate answers.
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Quoting Unabletrader
{quote} Please don't be silly. DX has been trading for 30 years and has a 50K$ Live account.
Hi, I thought you were serious at first.. To do his sort of fantasy trading 50 k is not enough, your speaking at least 500 000 and that is with a decent method, he lacks both.Money breeds money, not pennies, be good.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
Ok guys I just want to warn you about sth.

Here's my account:

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Valu...g/sync/1078318

Do u see sth strange about it?

Because there is sth. And I could use this thing in order to "scam" people.
It's official. Scammer confirmed.

#1, DaddyBear.


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Quoting Unabletrader
Ok guys I just want to warn you about sth. Here's my account: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Valu...g/sync/1078318 Do u see sth strange about it? Because there is sth. And I could use this thing in order to "scam" people.
Risk vs Reward
Quoting ronaleo10
{quote} 1 If your system really works ...why are you afraid of people bashing your TE..let your results speak for your self and make them eat their words. 2 Haha....free signal service. As other guy said , you dont have to show everything ...you can put on your TE and nobody can figure it out. Lol ...about summer thing , does that imply that , you are not even trading eitan system right now.... If it smell like witch and looks like witch ....it is witch. And there in nothing wrong in hunting that m....r f.....g[/highlight]...
In fact i will think about putting on the TE on summer, not first.
About the bolded, i already explained everything, maybe you can read my previous posts (also where i say i am using it RIGHT NOW,time permitting...)
About the red text: sorry, typical naysayer " i wanna burn them all" way to think. In civilized countries usually you are innocent until proven guilty...but i don't know in your country how it works out...
If were YOU the one called scammer, lier, m***fuc**r, etc etc maybe your opinion would be different. Crowd always have to shout shout shout..often without connecting the brain to the tongue
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