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  • Apr 29, 2013 12:13am Apr 29, 2013 12:13am
  •  biDc
  • | Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Member | 819 Posts
Google eminiaddict. He primarily use it on the futures market
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 1:01am Apr 29, 2013 1:01am
  •  big_pipin
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Thanks, ill take a look.
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 9:22am Apr 29, 2013 9:22am
  •  big_pipin
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Good to see g/u selling off as expected. Lets keep this up all week and I'll be happy.
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 2:21pm Apr 29, 2013 2:21pm
  •  nightstocher
  • | Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Member | 79 Posts
do you have any backtesting data?

Is this more or less a coin flip entry with an attractive RR of 1:5 (assuming you use the length of the initial move as TP) or is there an another edge?
It's a buy the dip scheme, ya feel me?
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 5:22pm Apr 29, 2013 5:22pm
  •  big_pipin
  • | Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,236 Posts
No backtested data. It's not a coin flip entry if you understand market structure. That's something I still have a hard time with on occasion, but trading successfully does not require the use of indicators as proven by other threads, and in time - this one too.

Instead of buying the breakouts, we are buying the 50% retracement with the expectation of a trend continuation.
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 6:59pm Apr 29, 2013 6:59pm
  •  havaiana
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The edge of this system is it exploits the markets tendency of mean revision in a trending market by entering at the 50% level and then exploits the markets tendency to have fat tails in a trending market, breaking the previous high/low and the continuation move being larger than the retracement leg. It should work just fine in a trending market and although simple is far better than the majority of stuff posted on here

The problem with this system is that it will not work during a non trending market (will not work most of the time), when the moves are more likely to be around 100% than 50%. To fix this would require a more non-systematic approach.

Some adive would be to only use this system during specific times when the market is more likely to be trending, so time becomes an indicator. Most other non systematic improvements would require learning to trade rather than trading a system. the downside to this is it requires a lot of time and effort, the upside is you can trade both trending and non trending markets and anything in between as long as it is moving enough to cover transaction costs. Or it will just let you know when to trade and when to not if you are specialising in a certain type of market. Another upside is very few people that post in this forum will actually put in the time and effort to do this.
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 7:04pm Apr 29, 2013 7:04pm
  •  havaiana
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Here is a good example about learning to trade http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...83#post3749183
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 7:19pm Apr 29, 2013 7:19pm
  •  big_pipin
  • | Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,236 Posts
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The edge of this system is it exploits the markets tendency of mean revision in a trending market by entering at the 50% level and then exploits the markets tendency to have fat tails in a trending market, breaking the previous high/low and the continuation move being larger than the retracement leg. It should work just fine in a trending market and although simple is far better than the majority of stuff posted on here The problem with this system is that it will not work during a non trending market (will not work most of the time), when...
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Show me a system that works "most" the time. I'm going for quality, high return trades. Between the weekly and the 5min chart, I can show you a trending market, it just depends on how flexible you are willing to be with this system. If you want to trade only the 1hr or 5min charts, then yes, you might have to sit through some noise before the larger trend picks up steam.


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To fix this would require a more non-systematic approach. Some advice would be to only use this system during specific times when the market is more likely to be trending, so time becomes an indicator.

That's usually during regular trading hours. I try my best not to trade when the markets not open. For me, london doesn't open until 3am.

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Most other non systematic improvements would require learning to trade rather than trading a system. the downside to this is it requires a lot of time and effort, the upside is you can trade both trending and non trending markets and anything in between as long as it is moving enough to cover transaction costs. Or it will just let you know when to trade and when to not if you are specialising in a certain type of market. Another upside is very few people that post in this forum will actually put in the time and effort to do this.
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 8:50pm Apr 29, 2013 8:50pm
  •  nightstocher
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Quoting havaiana
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The edge of this system is it exploits the markets tendency of mean revision in a trending market by entering at the 50% level and then exploits the markets tendency to have fat tails in a trending market, breaking the previous high/low and the continuation move being larger than the retracement leg. It should work just fine in a trending market and although simple is far better than the majority of stuff posted on here The problem with this system is that it will not work during a non trending market (will not work most of the time), when...
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I understand how it could work. I was just wondering if there was any substantiation that this has a positive expectancy.
It's a buy the dip scheme, ya feel me?
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 9:23pm Apr 29, 2013 9:23pm
  •  allisonmagic
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Got buy order in on usd/cad daily chart. {image}
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why would you buy into a down trend ?
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 9:30pm Apr 29, 2013 9:30pm
  •  allisonmagic
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and your fibs aren't very accurate. have you any live trades running ?
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 9:31pm Apr 29, 2013 9:31pm
  •  allisonmagic
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Good to see g/u selling off as expected. Lets keep this up all week and I'll be happy.
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you selling into an uptrend here too ?

you must have some insider info that i just don't know
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 9:46pm Apr 29, 2013 9:46pm
  •  big_pipin
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{quote} why would you buy into a down trend ?
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I don't consider it a downtrend because we broke trend line resistance. Price failed to breakout and we fell back to the tredline (support).

Also we have the double bottom forming along with price at the 50% retracement.
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  • Apr 29, 2013 9:49pm Apr 29, 2013 9:49pm
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{quote} you selling into an uptrend here too ? you must have some insider info that i just don't know
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Nope. Long term trend is down, check the weekly and the monthly. Does that look bullish to you?
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2013 10:48pm Apr 29, 2013 10:48pm
  •  allisonmagic
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{quote} Nope. Long term trend is down, check the weekly and the monthly. Does that look bullish to you?
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oh ok, so you trade weekly and monthly TF's.. makes sense now
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2013 8:12am Apr 30, 2013 8:12am
  •  big_pipin
  • | Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,236 Posts
Looking for trade on usd/jpy for todays session.

Based on the 1hr charts, we have this double bottom forming, so I'm going to see how this pans out. I'm considering taking a short based off the 15min charts if

price can get up to one of these trend lines, however, if that double bottom holds, taking a long trade off the pullback will be a better move i think. IF price breaks

this double bottom, then any retracement upwards may be a good short opportunity.
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  • Apr 30, 2013 8:20am Apr 30, 2013 8:20am
  •  big_pipin
  • | Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,236 Posts
Cancelled buy orders for usd/cad. I'm going to see how it reacts to the TL, and I might take a trade off the TL if it holds up. (see tl on above charts).
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2013 10:09am Apr 30, 2013 10:09am
  •  big_pipin
  • | Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,236 Posts
usd/jpy support break down in the works. Looking for pullback for short soon.
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2013 10:43am Apr 30, 2013 10:43am
  •  big_pipin
  • | Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,236 Posts
Got short order in for 97.39.. that is if we don't go lower, because then i'd have to adjust the 50% mark.
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  • Apr 30, 2013 6:23pm Apr 30, 2013 6:23pm
  •  big_pipin
  • | Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,236 Posts
Stopped out u/j -160 pips.
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