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  • Mar 18, 2013 4:09am Mar 18, 2013 4:09am
  •  mima
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined May 2008 | 3,395 Posts
Quoting hutrader
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It's the same. Where one close the next will open.
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It is confusing. If you can post chart with detils and explanation would be good...So far only you post charts because noone understand what you are doing...Maybe you really dont want to tell?...I don't know.
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  • Mar 18, 2013 3:13pm Mar 18, 2013 3:13pm
  •  igorpl
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Junior Member | 3 Posts
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  • Mar 23, 2013 5:49pm Mar 23, 2013 5:49pm
  •  agolac
  • | Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Member | 38 Posts
Quoting hutrader
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Just checked the daily on EU and it looks to me right now that it wanted to go and test the 2652 area.
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Agree with you. My buy limit is 1.2650.Monthly support level. Tho, I believe we might see retrace to 1.33 before hitting down again. Let see
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  • Mar 23, 2013 6:21pm Mar 23, 2013 6:21pm
  •  agolac
  • | Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Member | 38 Posts
Heres the chart...
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  • Mar 23, 2013 6:33pm Mar 23, 2013 6:33pm
  •  agolac
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Wider perspective...
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  • Edited 12:47am Mar 24, 2013 12:01am | Edited 12:47am
  •  Passerby
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Droid master | 894 Posts
I also used similar method, draw line or square on H4 then used H1 for entry. I also found that drawing using candle open and close price is somehow more accurate than high/low, with exception: if the tail is a bit longer I use the middle price or by looking at H1 for more precise placement by drawing on H4 then go to H1 and readjust the line/square.

The difference is that I won't just enter at the touch of those line. If the momentum is big, a long candle on H1 or M15, the chances that those level won't hold is bigger so I will wait for a shorter level or wait for the next level. I also found that the triangle area of top/bottom pose as strong support and demand area which often holds. I feel more comfortable to enter at those area, and often used them as target. Look at the chart to identify the "triangle area" I mentioned, I drew squares at those "triangle". Btw, the yellow line is drawn on D1 you could ignore it as this discussion is about H4 TF.

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Blue arrow is short entry, red arrow is short entry, and red cross is an international humanitarian organization(LOL!). Stars are my target.

I know that I missed many good entry by not entering trade at long candle. But if the trade is against me, at least the price will move slowly and I could cut the position with smaller loss. If you enter on a long candle, it is often if you are wrong the prices move FAST against you!

PS: If you enter a good supply/demand or support/resistance level or whatever. The price should move fast in your favor as supply or demand pushed it, if its linger too long in those area it is an indication that those supply/demand area are weak. If this the case run fast, LOL! Do not be wish washy if this is the situation, your risk will increase as the trade is against you or the price just stay there.

Disclosure: I do not trade on H4, but mainly(almost always actually, LOL) at H1, but I do looking for supply/demand area in H4 TF. The chart shows how I trade, not how the thread starter trades. I just give my opinion and propose a way to refine the method presented as it is similar to mine. In no way I do compare the two method as every method has its own edge and weakness. Traders should use the method that he/she comfortable with, but should seek his/her own way and improve it by for example evaluating and or adapting portion of information avaliable such as presented here by the TS and other member who replied. TS and other member could not held responsible if the result is behind the reader expectation.
 
 
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  • Mar 24, 2013 4:53pm Mar 24, 2013 4:53pm
  •  Styngray
  • | Joined Oct 2009 | Status: Member | 87 Posts
Hutrader; Do you look at other eur pairs to see if they are acting in the same way prior to entry? Do you enter on the 4 hr chart or lower timeframes. I am not fully understanding your exact method of entry and location or S&R lines. Thanks.
 
 
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  • Apr 4, 2013 3:44pm Apr 4, 2013 3:44pm
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
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Hutrader; Do you look at other eur pairs to see if they are acting in the same way prior to entry? Do you enter on the 4 hr chart or lower timeframes. I am not fully understanding your exact method of entry and location or S&R lines. Thanks.
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First of all sorry for being absent but with the chop in EU it just didn't make sense anymore to trade. Here is what I see.
In EU there is a hidden gap at 1.3074. Today's action was pretty crazy but that's usual when central bankers speak. And we had 3 of em. Neverthless irrelevant anyway. I am happy that EU bounced and took only 30 pips with it. Not complaining, still better than nothing. Anyway now back to the real stuff, the chart it self. As I mentioned, hidden gap in EU @ 1.3074 to be exact. This is still from the Cyprus crap from 3 weeks ago.
EU shoot up but I am not going to chase it. Perhaps I will go long small position but I rather take a normal one lower. Way Way lower. I was thinking around 1.2855 area. I expect to see support from 1.2857 down to 1.2841. So I place two orders there with the regular stop and aim for that hidden gap at least. 1.3072 will be my TP for one of the positions. Will keep the stop as usual.

So, here are the levels to watch.

Resistance.

1.2959
1.2984

Support
1.2867
1.2857
1.2849
1.2819


And no, I usually don't look at other pairs. One day they go hand in hand one day they go opposite or do nothing etc.
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  • Apr 5, 2013 11:45am Apr 5, 2013 11:45am
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
Hello, and good day.
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  • Apr 5, 2013 6:21pm Apr 5, 2013 6:21pm
  •  agolac
  • | Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Member | 38 Posts
I see this, untill price closes above descending TL (daily closed below BRN which is not so bullish sign for me)
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  • Apr 7, 2013 3:15pm Apr 7, 2013 3:15pm
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
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I see this, untill price closes above descending TL (daily closed below BRN which is not so bullish sign for me) {image}
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Interesting, looks pretty reliable your view.
 
 
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  • Apr 7, 2013 4:34pm Apr 7, 2013 4:34pm
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
Chart update for those who are interested.
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  • Apr 7, 2013 4:37pm Apr 7, 2013 4:37pm
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
Update with explenation.
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  • May 3, 2013 12:07pm May 3, 2013 12:07pm
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
Amazing.
Just look at the old lines.

By the way, I don't think EU wants to go down.
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  • May 3, 2013 2:18pm May 3, 2013 2:18pm
  •  bradu
  • | Joined Sep 2010 | Status: Member | 457 Posts
hey,

what is the point of showing the same pic, one month later?

am i missing something?
 
 
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  • May 4, 2013 10:02am May 4, 2013 10:02am
  •  unimak
  • | Joined Nov 2009 | Status: Member | 709 Posts
your first post held lot of promise but from second post onwards the thread seems to have lost direction and things are not clear. keep it simple and explain one currency at a time and in more details , if possible a video.
 
 
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  • May 8, 2013 12:07pm May 8, 2013 12:07pm
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
Sorry, that was a mistake. but I still don't see Euro coming down.
 
 
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  • May 8, 2013 12:09pm May 8, 2013 12:09pm
  •  hutrader
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
1.3121 is really good support now.
 
 
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  • Jan 10, 2014 10:51am Jan 10, 2014 10:51am
  •  Kingsford
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Member | 42 Posts
Dear hutrader, you can share MT4 HLC Bar Indexes? Thank you!
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  •  PipNerd
  • | Joined Jul 2016 | Status: Member | 21 Posts
The basic concept of this strategy is a sound one. Unfortunately, not many traders will take notice of these types because it doesn't come with lots of indicators on charts, neither is it on the lower, action-packed time frames.
 
 
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