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  •  pujolshomerun
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I looked at it over and over again and I figured out that there was a miscalculation. I just want it to be deleted.
When I buy it, it moves down. When I sell it, it moves up.
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  •  KudzuFX
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What countries correspond to these pairs?
 
 
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  •  pujolshomerun
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Quoting KudzuFX
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What countries correspond to these pairs?
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XAU means gold. XAG means silver
When I buy it, it moves down. When I sell it, it moves up.
 
 
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  •  StockKJay
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Quoting pujolshomerun
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I calculated it and it shows that you can earn $0.75/day for 1 unit of XAU/XAG long position and $0.25 /day for 1 unit of XAU/XAG short position.

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That is strange, how do you earn interest on both? Arent they exact opposite positions?

You use Oanda?

Go CUBS! hahaha
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  •  pujolshomerun
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Quoting StockKJay
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That is strange, how do you earn interest on both? Arent they exact opposite positions?

You use Oanda?

Go CUBS! hahaha
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I don't know

I longed XAU/USD and shorted XAG/USD in one account


and

shorted XAU/USD and longed XAG/USD in the other account,

and the interest rates were positive in both accounts.

2006 and 8 times World Series Campion St. Louis Cardinals. LOL
When I buy it, it moves down. When I sell it, it moves up.
 
 
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  •  KudzuFX
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Quoting StockKJay
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That is strange, how do you earn interest on both? Arent they exact opposite positions?

You use Oanda?

Go CUBS! hahaha
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Wayto go Lou - - -- ->>>>>>>
there he goes
 
 
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  •  StockKJay
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2006 and 8 times World Series Campion St. Louis Cardinals. LOL
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Yeah, but the Cubs manager can kick dirt? Can yours do that? He just sits or stands in the dugout and looks all confident. Also, the Cubs should win a World Series within the next 100 years... I am not worried.


Thanks for the tip, I will go into my demo and see if it works.
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  •  Dexis
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It's amazing how many people are reading this thread right now. It seems that the search for holy grail hasn't cooled off yet
 
 
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  •  cesarnc
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Quoting Dexis
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It's amazing how many people are reading this thread right now. It seems that the search for holy grail hasn't cooled off yet
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Everybody says there's no "Holy Grail", but... what if?

This one could be called "Golden Silver", btw
 
 
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  •  howard
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Nowadays we see a lot of threads about earning swaps and holy grail
Regards
 
 
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  •  ganesi
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funny,

i read this thread because i thought "wow, another fool statement from other fool guy"
finally,after reading this i found that "i'm the fool guy"

i think the only holy grail is combining your own technique with a good money management
 
 
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  •  Dexis
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Quoting cesarnc
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Everybody says there's no "Holy Grail", but... what if?

This one could be called "Golden Silver", btw
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Lol

I think I'll stick with JPY/TRY tho
 
 
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  •  tiku
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There is no pairs called XAU/XAG

But if you buy a pair of XAU/USD and sell a pair of XAG/USD, that is like buying a pair of XAU/XAG

The interest rate for XAU and XAG is pretty high.

I calculated it and it shows that you can earn $0.75/day for 1 unit of XAU/XAG long position and $0.25 /day for 1 unit of XAU/XAG short position.

So, if you have two accounts and long XAU/XAG in one account and short XAU/XAG in one account, the realized profit will be zero (if you don't consider about the spread)

And you will make money with the high interest. Doesn't matter if it goes up or down. Of course you have to wait untill it recorver the loss caused by the spread, but it will take just one or two days. Once the interest rate you get paid passes the loss of the spread, than you will make profits.
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Hi,
what do you suggest in case the gold/silver ratio changes? It fluctuates quite bit as time goes by. See i.e. http://www.kaiserbottomfish.com/i/jk...LT20060311.gif

It might very well affect the gold and silver lease rates and due to that their relation.

Regards
tiku
always expect the unexpected!
 
 
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  •  pujolshomerun
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[quote=tiku;1458890]Hi,
what do you suggest in case the gold/silver ratio changes? It fluctuates quite bit as time goes by. See i.e. http://www.kaiserbottomfish.com/i/jk...LT20060311.gif

It might very well affect the gold and silver lease rates and due to that their relation.

Regards
When I buy it, it moves down. When I sell it, it moves up.
 
 
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  •  PeterFM
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Quoting Dexis
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It's amazing how many people are reading this thread right now. It seems that the search for holy grail hasn't cooled off yet
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but I only wanted to see if he'd discovered my system
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2007 1:34pm Jun 5, 2007 1:34pm
  •  Dexis
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Quoting PeterFM
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but I only wanted to see if he'd discovered my system
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You mean this is it? The "INSIDER" information that has been kept secret for decades?

We gotta call Merlin here, cause FX is few seconds away from loosing it's edge as a business
 
 
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  • Jun 5, 2007 1:56pm Jun 5, 2007 1:56pm
  •  PeterFM
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Quoting Dexis
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You mean this is it? The "INSIDER" information that has been kept secret for decades?

We gotta call Merlin here, cause FX is few seconds away from loosing it's edge as a business
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There must have been a panic tho' as there's some unwinding happening in the carry trades.
I hope I haven't caused a stir in the FX markets, sorry guys
 
 
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Quoting PeterFM
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There must have been a panic tho' as there's some unwinding happening in the carry trades.
I hope I haven't caused a stir in the FX markets, sorry guys
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Nope, it turns out it was just a dixie cup, not a Holy Grail.. Maybe next time...
 
 
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