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  • Feb 20, 2012 11:59am Feb 20, 2012 11:59am
  •  Borek
  • | Joined Apr 2009 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Quoting Fuiyong
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How do u decide where to put the stop loss in this case?
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Did You read the principles of this system ? it's all on the first page m8 :-)
 
 
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  •  Borek
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Quoting Fuiyong
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Here is my trade entries. Thanks for helping me.
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hey,

Do You have pictures ? We can discuss then...
Remember that this is a trending system... it will have problems in ranging markets.

B.
 
 
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  • Feb 20, 2012 12:12pm Feb 20, 2012 12:12pm
  •  Borek
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Quoting trademin
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maybe a bit crazy explanation but...

have a nice reading,
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Hey

It's a very good explanation how markets move up and down. Gr8 job :-)
 
 
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  • Feb 20, 2012 12:15pm Feb 20, 2012 12:15pm
  •  trademin
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Hey

It's a very good explanation how markets move up and down. Gr8 job :-)
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I appreciate your comments!- thank you,
Yvon
 
 
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  • Feb 20, 2012 6:00pm Feb 20, 2012 6:00pm
  •  Seldomseen
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 4 Posts
Quoting Phillip Nel
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Here is the link to a 5min strategy that you can share with anyone you want to. This will show you the effect of trading with compound turning $250 in $7000 in 22 months. Live videos of the trades included.
Phillip

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=30d11218295047c9&resid=30D11218295047C9!113&parid=30D11218295047C9!180
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Is there another link explaining the basic settings of the 5 min off the Zone Crash Course? i.e. the moving averages of the zone etc.
Can't find any settings information in the link above.
Thanks in advance.
Robert
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2012 3:12am Feb 21, 2012 3:12am
  •  Fuiyong
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 76 Posts
If the price is riding along 8MA, can we take the trade? I see many a times prices move along 8MA. Along 21 and 89ma are quite hard to find.
 
 
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  •  ziko123
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I have tried this strategy and most trades seem to go wrong. I don't know where I have gone wrong. Can someone help me please, please.....
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don't waste your time, it doesn't work, even the guy who started it quit his journal months ago after many successive losses, see here

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...26#post4805026
 
 
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  •  Fuiyong
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don't waste your time, it doesn't work, even the guy who started it quit his journal months ago after many successive losses, see here

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...26#post4805026
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is this true?
 
 
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  •  Morelands
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is this true?
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That guy is the biggest piece of [email protected]$t. He can't make any $ so he's pissed off

PS: I follow a version of Phillip's system designed by Sion Smith. Look up his videos on YouTube..I have loaded about 39 of them. They are my bible

Raymond
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 9:30am Feb 22, 2012 9:30am
  •  Phillip Nel
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Nov 2006 | 2,223 Posts
The only reason why I stopped the journal was because there were very little discussion on the thread itself about the trades that I made in the journal. No one seems to follow and trade it with me.. Go to the journal, use the rules that is set out there, do your backtesting and come and tell me what you have found. About Ziko 123 I can only say that he was never on the thread to try and learn the system but to argue with people including myself. I had no choice as to stop him as he did the same on other threads.
Phillip
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 10:02am Feb 22, 2012 10:02am
  •  Phillip Nel
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Is there another link explaining the basic settings of the 5 min off the Zone Crash Course? i.e. the moving averages of the zone etc.
Can't find any settings information in the link above.
Thanks in advance.
Robert
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Here is a link to the zip file containing the 5min strategy together with another one as well.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx...244&parid=root
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 10:12am Feb 22, 2012 10:12am
  •  arrowloopboy
  • | Joined Nov 2009 | Status: Member | 104 Posts
Hello Philip,

Am i right in assumeing that there were no trades in the past 2 days according to the rules of the system ?I'v e been reading as much as i can,and trying to spot entries as they happen.

Regards,

Andy
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 10:46am Feb 22, 2012 10:46am
  •  Seldomseen
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 4 Posts
Quoting Phillip Nel
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Here is a link to the zip file containing the 5min strategy together with another one as well.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=30d11218295047c9&resid=30D11218295047C9!244&parid=root
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Thanks Phillip, I hope to use your systems for a long while!

Robert
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 11:07am Feb 22, 2012 11:07am
  •  george4forex
  • | Joined Feb 2012 | Status: Member | 17 Posts
Am a trader since 2009, for the first 2 yrs, i had 2 sleep hungry coz of lack of a good system to trade. I was looking for a ststem that explains the market and its behaviors. My friend Edonya made me land here after seeing his back tests with amazing profits and his market understanding.
i went to the blog and downloaded every material in there, came to the forum and read each and every PHILIP'S post. here i am 3 yrs later, am a forex Analyst and a Mentor to many guys here in Kenya.

I mention my Mentor (Philip) in each and every lesson in take!!!
My students have learnt that going against a mentor is committing murder in this business.
Thanks mentor for your constant explanation of Market Rhythm, Discipline, Motion and Emotion. Your 52min video is my breakfast dish Each morning.

Fore sure, This strategy works. Watch this space for more posts.
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 11:08am Feb 22, 2012 11:08am
  •  Phillip Nel
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File Type: zip Info.zip   4.2 MB | 994 downloads
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 11:10am Feb 22, 2012 11:10am
  •  george4forex
  • | Joined Feb 2012 | Status: Member | 17 Posts
Many will try to put a word in your head like this, " TRADE WHAT YOU SEE AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK!". Is this true? For me, This sentence is not alway correct. But it really depends on you.

If you want to trade what you see, then ask yourself ; "Am I seeing the chart corectly? Do I have the skills to see and describe the chart movement corectly? How do I trade what I see if my brain is already thinking at the exact moment my eyes see? Will I put my money on that trades?

See... For me this Trade what you see is another confusing propaganda in forex business. People thinks as a respond to what they see, hear, feel and touch. It's happen instantly in a blink of the eye. No one can stop your brain from thinking at the moment you see. Actually, It takes a brain function to see.

As I said many times before. Nothing comes easy in this job. In order to trade it the right way, you just have to train yourself to see correctly and to think correctly at the same time. If you pass these too much "SEE and THINK" your brain will record that in some sort of statistical result in our head, that's what I call Insting and skills. At that moment your brain will develop and an ability to guess correctly and make a right decision instantly. That's what we suppose to do.

It's like Van Gogh who can make a random brush play on a blank canvas instantly but still it looks beautiful. Or Madonna and Jacko who dance randomly but still looks sexy and fantastic, Or Gary Moore who can play random blues notes but still it sound amazing. That's is a skill.

So for me, Do not trade what you see or think, but train the way you see and think first then trade with the skill you earn from that training.
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 11:13am Feb 22, 2012 11:13am
  •  george4forex
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Thank you Sir, one of your mentored traders from Kenya was the first one to download this !!! B blessed
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2012 12:41pm Feb 22, 2012 12:41pm
  •  Phillip Nel
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Quoting george4forex
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Many will try to put a word in your head like this, " TRADE WHAT YOU SEE AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK!". Is this true? For me, This sentence is not alway correct. But it really depends on you.

If you want to trade what you see, then ask yourself ; "Am I seeing the chart corectly? Do I have the skills to see and describe the chart movement corectly? How do I trade what I see if my brain is already thinking at the exact moment my eyes see? Will I put my money on that trades?

See... For me this Trade what you see is another confusing propaganda...
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This is an excellent post. To be trained to respond by what you see according to the rules and rhythm as it is trained inside of you to become second nature. Well done
 
 
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  • Feb 23, 2012 2:26am Feb 23, 2012 2:26am
  •  Borek
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Thanks Phillip,

You said everything what i wanted to write about price action, support/resistance levels , macd and candles.
New people comming here should understand that this system is not only about trading MACD, it's combination of MACD , moving averages and price action ( candle formation/patterns are also very important ).
So for those who say that this system is not working, please backtest this strategy for 2 years, and You will see it's working quite nice.
I didn't saw system that is 100% profitable, it doesn't exist!
You will have better times and times when this system will loose ( especialy in tight consolidations ).
So IMO all new people here should trade at beginning only with TC from 21 ema, with max. 1% risk per trade on small live account. That will teach them how to handle with emotions and system. Protecting Your trading capital is most important thing in trading, no matter what system will You use.

B.

( Sorry if my english grammar is not good enough, hope You all understand it correctly )
 
 
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  • Feb 23, 2012 11:48am Feb 23, 2012 11:48am
  •  me_nabeel1
  • | Joined Feb 2012 | Status: Member | 17 Posts
Hello mates,

My name is Nabeel. Wanted to thank Nel for his efforts and his dedication. He has put tremendous efforts and it is helping many people. I have gone through all the material provided and doing so again to further clear the concepts. So once again thanks Nel. You really are a gem of a person. Wish you a very successfull trading career.
 
 
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