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Quoting navk
{quote} After calibration period, whatever trade I do, Is it taken into account for Silver ?
Yes, if your calibration ends prior to the following Monday, you may continue to trade. Your results will be taken into account for your Darwin creation.
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Missed the mark today, only .08% gain, had a .2% loss on a NAS buy early in the day, hit stop 18 points above the low for the day. Winning day is a winning day though.
What do you think?
(PIC 1)

Meanwhile, my new Darwinex Zero account, on its third day, is still down by -0.41%. There has been improvement in the drawdown, as the D-Leverage remain low, around 1 to 2. I never make more than 2 trades at a time, with an initial risk somewhere between 0.2% to 0.3% per trade.
(PIC 2)

To secure $50k in funding within two months, I need to generate a profit of around 4.57% while keeping the drawdown steady at around -0.41%, but let's see after the calibration period and adjustments are complete.
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Quoting RoelsMajor
What do you think? (PIC 1) Meanwhile, my new Darwinex Zero account, on its third day, is still down by -0.41%. There has been improvement in the drawdown, as the D-Leverage remain low, around 1 to 2. I never make more than 2 trades at a time, with an initial risk somewhere between 0.2% to 0.3% per trade. (PIC 2) To secure $50k in funding within two months, I need to generate a profit of around 4.57% while keeping the drawdown steady at around -0.41%, but let's see after the calibration period and adjustments are complete. (PIC 3) {image} {image}...
I do not see how they can pay out more. 20% is the standard performance fee charged by real hedge funds. They are paying us 75% of that (15%). So when you say 1/3...are you saying 1/3 of the 20% they are earning? That would be way less than what they are paying us now.
The reason the props paid 80-90% is there were no investors, no investor is going to put up their money, take all of the risk and say I just want 20%, you keep 80%. They were paying 80-90% of demo profits. No real market, profits were paid from challenge fees.
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I do not see how they can pay out more. 20% is the standard performance fee charged by real hedge funds. They are paying us 75% of that (15%). So when you say 1/3...are you saying 1/3 of the 20% they are earning? That would be way less than what they are paying us now. The reason the props paid 80-90% is there were no investors, no investor is going to put up their money, take all of the risk and say I just want 20%, you keep 80%. They were paying 80-90% of demo profits. No real market, profits were paid from challenge fees.
I mean 1/3 for Traders and Darwinex, about 33%, 2/3 for Investors, about 67%. The hedge fund model is indeed like that, but it's also important to remember that historically, hedge funds have not traded with small amounts of capital; the funding for their traders is likely more than 1 million dollars (so very nice 20% if profit). Say Darwinex is small hedge fund. Prop firms pay too much; should not exceed 2/3 or 67% if their model is not a hedge fund (and their model is not a collaborative model).
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CLosing Asian session..... Good one.......


1. 1 trade on gold (First it missed my tp by .3cents then it reversed missed my stop loss by .5cents and finally hit tp roller coaster lol)150kx12 = 7428$..... (Apex getting slower yesterday payout got approved but the money is not deducted from the account yet).. Btw going to request another 2750$ tonight.... Rest 11x150k will be eligible for payout on friday......
2. ALso started myfundedfutures 50kx3 (As always payout fund further evals)
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Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} I mean 1/3 for Traders and Darwinex, about 33%, 2/3 for Investors, about 67%. The hedge fund model is indeed like that, but it's also important to remember that historically, hedge funds have not traded with small amounts of capital; the funding for their traders is likely more than 1 million dollars (so very nice 20% if profit). Say Darwinex is small hedge fund. Prop firms pay too much; should not exceed 2/3 or 67% if their model is not a hedge fund (and their model is not a collaborative model).
Model has to be interesting for investors as well. If investors return is lowered by increasing performance fee from 20% to 33% will there be enough investors? I prefer to get 15% of 5 m instead of 22% (2/3 of 33%) of 3 m.

Darwinex already have difficulties to attract money from outside investors. Lowering returns won’t help it.
Quoting RoelsMajor
What do you think? (PIC 1) Meanwhile, my new Darwinex Zero account, on its third day, is still down by -0.41%. There has been improvement in the drawdown, as the D-Leverage remain low, around 1 to 2. I never make more than 2 trades at a time, with an initial risk somewhere between 0.2% to 0.3% per trade. (PIC 2) To secure $50k in funding within two months, I need to generate a profit of around 4.57% while keeping the drawdown steady at around -0.41%, but let's see after the calibration period and adjustments are complete. (PIC 3) {image} {image}...
Looks like drawdown doesn't carry as much negative weight as you might expect. Profit is king. Was plugging in some numbers. Check it out
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Quoting Expo33
{quote} Looks like drawdown doesn't carry as much negative weight as you might expect. Profit is king. Was plugging in some numbers. Check it out {image}
Yes, that's correct, but with a -5% to -9% drawdown, the risk ratio will clearly be around 0.5 or lower. Usually, if the drawdown is around that range, D-Leverage tends to be above 9.75 and the number of trades exceeds 5 at a time, unless you are able to keep D-Leverage below 9.75. See @kalastaja post #40,376. Profit is superb but D-Leverage ranges between 10 to spike 20. The risk ratio is cut to 0.5, although the drawdown is relatively small.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post14957341
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I saw link junction for prop firms which tracks RISE payments daily payouts etc. Is this crypto included? Any idea?

Is there any website which tracks payout via crypto tracker where also FTMO is on that im missing and already exists?

I appreciate
Any direct experiance in payouts for City Traders Imperium?
on calibration
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Quoting newbiforever
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While it's impressive that you flipped an account with a 3:1 to DD, it's not what darwinex is looking for, your risk engine will be lucky to be a 0.1 or 0.05.
I would say try that with a YOLO prop firm, but they only allow 10% max DD, so wouldn't work there either.
But, if you can do that consistently, you'll have a billion in your personal account in less than a year.
Can you screenshot your D-Leverage
Quoting newbiforever
on calibration {image}
Care to share D-Leverage and Number of Trades? Thanks
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Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} While it's impressive that you flipped an account with a 3:1 to DD, it's not what darwinex is looking for, your risk engine will be lucky to be a 0.1 or 0.05. I would say try that with a YOLO prop firm, but they only allow 10% max DD, so wouldn't work there either. But, if you can do that consistently, you'll have a billion in your personal account in less than a year. Can you screenshot your D-Leverage
I hope one day regular prop have such a thing as well because 100% return so fast is not realistic and no one should invest money in such strategy.
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Quoting newbiforever
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Oh my

Can't wait to see the risk reduction after calibration phase is over. Please keep us posted
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Saw this in the Commercial section. Zero fee prop firm. Clarity Funding

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...fees-prop-firm
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Quoting newbiforever
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Well, your risk factor will probably be adjusted by Darwinex after Calibration, somewhere between 0.05 lot (0.009%) to 0.01 lot (0.001%) per trade; in case per 20 pips target. Try channeling that brilliant talent into Gung-Ho Firms.
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