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  • May 16, 2007 10:56am May 16, 2007 10:56am
  •  goonergonebad
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 348 Posts
Quoting el_duende
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I believe Mr Brown would not want interest rate rises, people in UK are struggling to pay huge mortgages to pay for super high house prices. Higher mortgage repayments each month will essentially mean less spending in the shops and retail will be affected.

Many young people like me cannot afford to buy a home. Also key workers such as police, nurses etc cannot afford to live in the cities due to high house prices and low wages. Increased interest rates will further make this an issue.

Politically it will not be good for Brown IMO and will not help the people of the UK who have a mountain of personal debt (record levels ever about £18000/$36000 or thereabouts and this excludes a mortgage!) . Mr Brown and his famed economy eh, hes not leaving a nice job to the next chancellor!

LIBOR rates have already been priced to 5.75%

I believe it will eventually happen but not til July/August. Inflation reports are key.
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My thoughts exactly.
But, the market doesn't have this common sense approach to valuing a currency, hence good US news and mixed GB news appears to mean a medium range market consolidation and not to sell GBP massively.
I can only assume that there are still major concerns about the US economy.

We shall see...
 
 
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I believe Mr Brown would not want interest rate rises, people in UK are struggling to pay huge mortgages to pay for super high house prices. Higher mortgage repayments each month will essentially mean less spending in the shops and retail will be affected.
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If you remember 1989. Interest rates went up from 11% to 15% in a few months. I lost 30% of the equity in properties I owned virtually overnight in the UK when the market slumped.

Many suffered negative equity for years after. I'm not saying you'll ever see 11% again in the short term. My point is mortgage money is cheap. And if the rate doubled - extremely unlikely - then reposessions because of stupid income multiples when deciding how much to lend, up to 6 times salary, you would see a slump and make the 89 crash seem like a minor blip.
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  • May 16, 2007 11:13am May 16, 2007 11:13am
  •  verno
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Quoting goonergonebad
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Just got back. US news was good but obviously not good enough. The market at the moment is fickle, especially as I just read elsewhere on the forum that a large Swiss bank are forecasting next UK interest rate hike to 5.75% in August. Not enough and timed for Mr Brown, I suspect.

Near to mid term I am still in the bear camp though.
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I believe that they raised it to 5.75 interim with a view that it would the come back down later in the year. I think the short sterling contracts fell but no massive affect on Cable.
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 11:18am May 16, 2007 11:18am
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Many young people like me cannot afford to buy a home. Also key workers such as police, nurses etc cannot afford to live in the cities due to high house prices and low wages. Increased interest rates will further make this an issue.
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I feel for you. Generally, when the average house price gets to 5 or more past the average salary we have a correction. We've passed that ages ago. The only thing that is keeping the wheels from falling off now in the UK housing market is relatively low interest rates. Albeit, on properties that are unaffordable for many. There will be a correction eventually. But I wouldn't like to put a date on it.
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  • May 16, 2007 11:22am May 16, 2007 11:22am
  •  ashlee_17
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Anyone selling the cable from here at 1.9800???
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 11:28am May 16, 2007 11:28am
  •  el_duende
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I was 8 years old in 1989 lol cant remember much on the economic front.

There is a possability for something similar to happen to the housing market especially with rising rates and the high pound. High levels of personal debt in UK worries me.
 
 
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  •  goonergonebad
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That last rally was a perfect retrace off the upward channel support trend line.

Good US news could test this support again and given today's bearish sentiment we may see the down channel again..
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If the downtrend channel's resistance trend line holds we could be into Igrok's South Pole projection.
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There is a possability for something similar to happen to the housing market especially with rising rates and the high pound. High levels of personal debt in UK worries me.
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But for my part I don't want it to happen again. I remember the misery it caused - then I was in banking. Apart from that I've still got 1 house left over from that 1989.
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  • May 16, 2007 12:26pm May 16, 2007 12:26pm
  •  Tatton
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is the down trend complete for the day? any opinions
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 12:30pm May 16, 2007 12:30pm
  •  ashlee_17
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is the down trend complete for the day? any opinions
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Pretty much yes.. however, if cable breaks 1.9750, then that opens the door for cable to go down as far as 1.9400.. of course, IMHO.
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 1:12pm May 16, 2007 1:12pm
  •  el_duende
  • | Joined Oct 2006 | Status: Member | 1,023 Posts
Closing short postions maybe a bit early but have some very nice profits.

Amazing how forex can treat you especially after I had my worst trading day ever trading the news yesterday.

Possible long entry formed on hourly chart, Try small stop and for small retrace
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  • May 16, 2007 1:19pm May 16, 2007 1:19pm
  •  x3m
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We had 3 major tests of 9760-70 support in the last 7 days. The stronger was the test the stronger was the bounce. The 4th test today is weaker than the last one yesterday but as strong as the first two. These are my observations. I wonder what all this translates into from tech stand point?

I TP my latest short from 9841 at 9776 and will stand aside till I figure out this setup. Any help is appreciated. :-)
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  •  goonergonebad
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Quoting x3m
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We had 3 major tests of 9760-70 support in the last 7 days. The stronger was the test the stronger was the bounce. The 4th test today is weaker than the last one yesterday but as strong as the first two. These are my observations. I wonder what all this translates into from tech stand point?

I TP my latest short from 9841 at 9776 and will stand aside till I figure out this setup. Any help is appreciated. :-)
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Personally, I think a break is possible because recent news is more positive US than GB.

JM2C
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 1:24pm May 16, 2007 1:24pm
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When the market is moving down (as it is today) it is better to watch for a retrace up to plan for going short, then to try to trade a retrace back up.
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 1:33pm May 16, 2007 1:33pm
  •  x3m
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Quoting goonergonebad
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Personally, I think a break is possible because recent news is more positive US than GB.

JM2C
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Well, the US news we have ahead of us this week are not that great, while GB Retail Slaes on Friday are forcasted positive.
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 1:43pm May 16, 2007 1:43pm
  •  ashlee_17
  • | Joined Mar 2007 | Status: Member | 425 Posts
Do you guys think this a good entry point for going short term long??
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 1:51pm May 16, 2007 1:51pm
  •  ashlee_17
  • | Joined Mar 2007 | Status: Member | 425 Posts
Anyone taking new positions from this point?
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 1:58pm May 16, 2007 1:58pm
  •  ashlee_17
  • | Joined Mar 2007 | Status: Member | 425 Posts
why is everyone so awfully quiet???
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 2:06pm May 16, 2007 2:06pm
  •  shadeslay
  • | Joined Mar 2007 | Status: Surfer of the market | 388 Posts
Wait and see attitude for me, it has good support right now, if it breaks 741 I might consider going short. Figuring it will most likely hang in this area for a bit.
 
 
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  • May 16, 2007 2:09pm May 16, 2007 2:09pm
  •  el_duende
  • | Joined Oct 2006 | Status: Member | 1,023 Posts
I only had a very small stop loss that was hit and my long didnt materialize. Suspect more downside to 1.9850
 
 
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