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  • Dec 10, 2018 8:22am Dec 10, 2018 8:22am
  •  Bushy
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Hi Princefred, You deserve a reply. I think you are the last on a list so take this in the well meaning manner I offer it.
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Fractal, it's obvious it's you or his psychic twin brother, it's the same judgemental tone.
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  • Dec 10, 2018 8:34am Dec 10, 2018 8:34am
  •  JennyMK
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{quote} That's what the downmove pockets, that's their profit, some say it's a zero sum game, don't you believe it, it's one great big Ponzi scheme, so there's enough money slushing around for everyone who can make a profit to make it.
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If the downmove stop run hits the dumb money buyers stop losses which are sell stop losses that pushes the market down even further? do the dealers fill their own trades with the stop loss sell orders of the dumb money that just got hit?
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Quoting TimeTells
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Hi Princefred, You deserve a reply. I think you are the last on a list so take this in the well meaning manner I offer it. The trolls have tricked you pal, but I don’t blame you. Misdirection is their game, and the game of FX. I agree with you that the WORD manipulation is bandied about in almost all forex discussions, and sites. But just the WORD. For me to have now SEEN fractals VISUALS of SM moves was all I needed myself for a click in my head to go off. No I cannot yet get in on the start of the SM moves. I don’t have fractals charts and never...
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It appears, as FF, you got helped and learnt the way only to bail on DM. Enjoy your new found PROCESS and time tells how effective it is but remember the universe sees it all.
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  • Dec 10, 2018 9:27am Dec 10, 2018 9:27am
  •  LeanhoneyJD
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placed a short on EUR/USD at 1.14412 now i wait
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good call

where did you put stops?
do you have a target?

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  • Dec 10, 2018 9:33am Dec 10, 2018 9:33am
  •  profitfarmer
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{quote} If the downmove stop run hits the dumb money buyers stop losses which are sell stop losses that pushes the market down even further? do the dealers fill their own trades with the stop loss sell orders of the dumb money that just got hit?
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Jenny,

the idea that the SM goes short to hit the DM longs, and as those DM gets hit the SM complete the circle by closing there short move with the long orders ( sucking up the DM sell).

the big question remain though: not all SM is making money, in fact most banks nowadays keep their trading desks more for prestige than profit.
and as far as algoes go, where is it said that a SM algo cant profit from another SM algo pattern?
that is where this whole thing gets tricky.

and sometimes "too smart" is not smart enough, or huge capital isnt huge enough...google LTCM story. or Barings Bank/Nick Leeson, or Soros vs BOE....etc.

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{quote} good call where did you put stops? do you have a target? goodstuf
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or is it a good call?
yes, after some time, looks OK.

but
isnt Fractal's approach suggest that it is not a good candidate?
if the perception is a stronger support area, isnt the common DM move is to short there, and place stop above...the more it was tested, the more likely a growing number/size SLs...
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the SM kind a become obliged to break/fakeout and take those SLs at least on the short term, before returning to range to take out the breakout traders too?

would that make the entry ideal? idk. but as said, a near 2 hours later, when posted, it was OK knowing current price then.
there is always, always another trade!!
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  • Dec 10, 2018 9:41am Dec 10, 2018 9:41am
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{quote} I leave you with the following trade size info I picked up from some other kind trader on this Forum who also wished to help others. My thx to them. Example FX equity account size only (multiply or divide size to suit your own a/c). $1000 trade a lot size of 0.10 total break your trades down into 5 x 0.02 micros use your own preferred trade assement method enter trade - MM will then take it AGAINST you (LOL) enter again after 5 pips with another 0.02 if it then runs WITH you - that's it this trade - let it ride to a profit if MM keeps hunting...
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And that's the best you can come up with, it's best you stop trading, and start learning.
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  • Dec 10, 2018 9:59am Dec 10, 2018 9:59am
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{quote} but isnt Fractal's approach suggest that it is not a good candidate?.
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If Fractal doesn't know what his approach is, what chance has Jenny got?
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  •  wqayx
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Welcome on your thread, FF = TT
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Welcome on your thread, FF = TT
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Worth investigating.
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Welcome on your thread, FF = TT
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I doubt that with such moves the DM will ever become smarter
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  • Dec 10, 2018 10:22am Dec 10, 2018 10:22am
  •  Shabs19
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{quote} good call where did you put stops? do you have a target? goodstuf
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If it went up, he would have said it hit his TP, just like FF would.
Of course FF doesn't advocate using stoplosses. Just add more positions to losers.
So you only get the bare minimum, no analysis as usual, no reasons except DM stops were there. See FF's magic charts.
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  • Dec 10, 2018 10:51am Dec 10, 2018 10:51am
  •  JennyMK
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{quote} Jenny, the idea that the SM goes short to hit the DM longs, and as those DM gets hit the SM complete the circle by closing there short move with the long orders ( sucking up the DM sell).
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- SM go short
- DM longs gets hit
- SM close their shorts with sell stop of longs?
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  •  Merka
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{quote} Worth investigating. {image}
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Is that Oanda clients orders book?
If not, from where did you get that chart?
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  • Dec 10, 2018 11:10am Dec 10, 2018 11:10am
  •  Shabs19
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FF does not trade. See the evidence:

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post11785671
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  • Dec 10, 2018 11:20am Dec 10, 2018 11:20am
  •  Shabs19
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{quote} Yes mate, you were tricked. His profile says he is a 66y old man from Australia so obviously he cannot be the one the one you think about: {image} POW POW
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A donkey that quacks like a Duck ? Wouldn't surprise me .
You know in Australia they have weird animals like Duck Billed Platypus ?
A mammal that lays Eggs ?

From Wikipedia:
The platypus (Ornithorhynchus anatinus), sometimes referred to as the duck-billed platypus, is a semiaquatic egg-laying mammal endemic to eastern Australia, including Tasmania. Together with the four species of echidna, it is one of the five extant species of monotremes, the only mammals that lay eggs instead of giving birth to live young. The animal is the sole living representative of its family (Ornithorhynchidae) and genus (Ornithorhynchus), though a number of related species appear in the fossil record. The first scientists to examine a preserved platypus body (in 1799)[3] judged it a fake, made of several animals sewn together.[4]
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{image}
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Still in play the friday levels before nfp ... @1295 zone seems a good level to buy, if get there.
Let's see what will happen tomorrow with the brexit deal.

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{quote} An order book can help you. When a breakout don't have a pullback can help you also.
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Quoting JennyMK
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Is there a way to find places on the chart to show where orders have not been filled?
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Hey Jenny
POW!
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  • Dec 10, 2018 11:48am Dec 10, 2018 11:48am
  •  Shabs19
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{quote} Still in play the friday levels before nfp ... @1295 zone seems a good level to buy, if get there. Let's see what will happen tomorrow with the brexit deal. {quote} {quote} Hey Jenny
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Vote has been postponed, Surprise Surprise, Prime Minister May not confident of winning the vote.
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  • Dec 10, 2018 11:55am Dec 10, 2018 11:55am
  •  Shabs19
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{quote} Agree. Everything is possible. There are some weird animals in some countries. Like in Gibraltar, they have this animal. It's not a duck. Old legend says he can also play saxophone: {image}
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Is this animal related to the Unicorn ?

As Billy Connolly used to say his star sign is Sagittarius, part man part horse, licensed to shit in the street.
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  • Dec 10, 2018 11:58am Dec 10, 2018 11:58am
  •  fxprimate
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{quote} Vote has been postponed, Surprise Surprise, Prime Minister May not confident of winning the vote.
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I did not know, thanks.
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  • Dec 10, 2018 12:05pm Dec 10, 2018 12:05pm
  •  Shabs19
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{quote} I did not know, thanks.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi..._enabled:false
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