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  • #18,241
  • Dec 16, 2008 1:56pm Dec 16, 2008 1:56pm
Couldn't agree with you guys more, The 1H migration definitely can get you before the close of the 4H and yes sometimes even with 20 to 25 stop loss. This of course is after you completely understand the 4H rhythm and price action. Great charts Palmer.
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  • #18,242
  • Dec 16, 2008 2:30pm Dec 16, 2008 2:30pm
detail ,
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  • #18,243
  • Dec 17, 2008 2:29am Dec 17, 2008 2:29am
Thx mr.krai....small, short sum up

Quoting mr.krai
detail ,
  • #18,244
  • Dec 17, 2008 2:32am Dec 17, 2008 2:32am
Efforts appreciated, mr.krai. This document should be in the index, on the first page.
  • #18,245
  • Dec 17, 2008 4:54am Dec 17, 2008 4:54am
EURUSD pulling back a little here...watching.
  • #18,246
  • Dec 17, 2008 5:03am Dec 17, 2008 5:03am
Thanks Mr Krai for the summary on Market Rhythm.
"Flow with the market rhythm and the pips will come to you."
  • #18,247
  • Dec 17, 2008 5:21am Dec 17, 2008 5:21am
thanks mr.krai ...

ur hard working will be given more pips in the market in the future..
  • #18,248
  • Edited 7:21am Dec 17, 2008 5:23am | Edited 7:21am
Quoting Palmer
EURUSD pulling back a little here...watching.
Wish I would listen to my own advice sometimes! Caught the wrong side of the Cable move today. Was expecting some action off the 21ema on the 1Hr, but like a dafty I switch to the 15min and took the move on too early before the 1Hr had close. 50pip loss both units.

Lesson: wait till 1hr closes next time.

edit....it gets worse the 4hr was an evening star and at the moment it has run down to the 21ema and bounced 100pips off it.

edit....oh so now it decides to move 150pips in my original direction!!
  • #18,249
  • Dec 17, 2008 7:16am Dec 17, 2008 7:16am
mr. krai, I'm quoting from your document:

"When the price goes through the 89SMA it tends to pullback to the 21EMA, if the 21EMA is above the 89SMA. If not it tends to pullback to the 89SMA or to the 8EMA"

Why do you think that choosing some numbers (fibonacci or not) and applying some customized formula to them (EMA is not really average), did you find the secret of the market?

The prices "go through" 89SMA simply because they tend to touch their average from time to time. The beginners don't understand this thing. And after that of course that they will touch 21EMA or 8EMA because they do it all the time, this EMAs having a nature of being close to the chart.
  • #18,250
  • Dec 17, 2008 7:55am Dec 17, 2008 7:55am
huge volatility today, huge stop losses. too much for my rules. Will stay out but very interesting to observe............
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  • #18,251
  • Dec 17, 2008 8:02am Dec 17, 2008 8:02am
Quoting neilbuc
Wish I would listen to my own advice sometimes! Caught the wrong side of the Cable move today. Was expecting some action off the 21ema on the 1Hr, but like a dafty I switch to the 15min and took the move on too early before the 1Hr had close. 50pip loss both units.

Lesson: wait till 1hr closes next time.

edit....it gets worse the 4hr was an evening star and at the moment it has run down to the 21ema and bounced 100pips off it.

edit....oh so now it decides to move 150pips in my original direction!!
Yeah, I've had that happen plenty of times....You get in, get stopped out, and then later the price moves your way.

There was A LOT of movement today that was VERY FAST. I had to narrow things down to a 1/5 timeframe and pulled in some on the EURUSD. I did not post that trade here because the entry had nothing to do with the 4hr except for the trend direction. During very fast markets like they were earlier I think we all need to either take a step back from a 4hr timeframe or narrow things down to a shorter tiemframe as long as you have a method for that. I was long at one point then went short next; against the 4hr trend. Sooo, no post here about those trades.

I approach the 4hr as a slow 'rhythmical' approach to the market. If there is a lot of volatility there then I let things settle and trade a shorter timeframe if I have the time.

Letting things settle out right now and just cheking out russianbrides.com for a little while....duuuuude....
  • #18,252
  • Dec 17, 2008 8:12am Dec 17, 2008 8:12am
[quote=Ritchie Mann;2425428]mr. krai, I'm quoting from your document:

"When the price goes through the 89SMA it tends to pullback to the 21EMA, if the 21EMA is above the 89SMA. If not it tends to pullback to the 89SMA or to the 8EMA"

Why do you think that choosing some numbers (fibonacci or not) and applying some customized formula to them (EMA is not really average), did you find the secret of the market?

The prices "go through" 89SMA simply because they tend to touch their average from time to time. The beginners don't understand this thing. And after that of course that they will touch 21EMA or 8EMA because they do it all the time, this EMAs having a nature of being close to the chart.[/quote]
this document is in old heading i read from the website 4 Hour Strategy MACD part fibonacci i get adjust the expansion enters, you try to enter study see with you will better
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  • #18,253
  • Dec 17, 2008 8:53am Dec 17, 2008 8:53am
Quoting mr.krai
detail ,
Thank you Mr. Krai. This helps me quite a bit.
  • #18,254
  • Dec 17, 2008 9:17am Dec 17, 2008 9:17am
Quoting Palmer
Yeah, I've had that happen plenty of times....You get in, get stopped out, and then later the price moves your way.

There was A LOT of movement today that was VERY FAST. I had to narrow things down to a 1/5 timeframe and pulled in some on the EURUSD. I did not post that trade here because the entry had nothing to do with the 4hr except for the trend direction. During very fast markets like they were earlier I think we all need to either take a step back from a 4hr timeframe or narrow things down to a shorter tiemframe as long as you have a method...

LoL......

Over confidence on my part as that the first loser this month. When I step back and look at it, it never fitted any of my plan or rules. Too much Christmas cheer maybe!

Where is that dunce's hat!
  • #18,255
  • Dec 17, 2008 11:21pm Dec 17, 2008 11:21pm
Possible round top signal on the 4H candle eur/usd
A counter trend trade to the 8ema and the 21 ema
Stop loss might be too big on the 4H
possible 3 stage entry
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  • #18,256
  • Dec 18, 2008 2:06am Dec 18, 2008 2:06am
H1 entry ,i entered with 5M system to reduce my SL size ,u can find it in M5thread
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  • #18,257
  • Edited 5:06am Dec 18, 2008 4:22am | Edited 5:06am
Quoting bshadroo
H1 entry ,i entered with 5M system to reduce my SL size ,u can find it in M5thread
hello,
Anyone watching the canadian dollar? I think the rhythm is there, and by the macd signal given to this pair is giving positive trade until now

dang it.. touched my sl by ts for 10pips
  • #18,258
  • Dec 18, 2008 4:24am Dec 18, 2008 4:24am
here is the chart:
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  • #18,259
  • Dec 18, 2008 5:36am Dec 18, 2008 5:36am
Quoting hijackxx
here is the chart:
you should have wait until the news
  • #18,260
  • Edited 6:52am Dec 18, 2008 6:44am | Edited 6:52am
it seems like going to expand again or breakout !! we shall wait after the news......... and the MACD signal on 1H. is it??
edit: the price breakout the trend line .. now wait for pull back from 15min for entry. profit target maybe 21EMA in 4H.
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