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DiamondMiner Aug 28, 2019 3:35pm | Post# 1

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A word on Geometric Trading: W.D. Gann and H. M. Gartley were two of the most successful traders of our time. Their discovery in the science of geometry in the markets is uncanny upon the forecasting of Time and Price reversals. General Guidelines: Those who care to join us & contribute you are welcome here. However, if you are going to post any charts on this thread, please briefly explain how you derived at your forecast so others may learn and not be confused. Trolls, Time Wasters, disruptors will be removed without notice. I have Zero tolerance for BS. This thread is here because I want to give the little guy the opportunity to become wealthy if he so wants it. I will guess only 1% or less that come to this thread will be serious enough about they're life and the direction it's going to make a change to it better.
The Circumscribed Objective shown below I learned from reading books by W.D. Gann and Jerome Baumring, Beck and Jenkins
I do my analysis work using from Daily charts, it's all I need, as I can scan all the markets for the stock or currency that meets the criteria I specify. I scan first for Gartley patterns detected. I'm not referring to just any harmonic patterns that the herd call Gartley patterns. Those are nothing more then harmonics of some sort. Gartley pattern must be symmetry, otherwise distorted patterns are the rode to ruin. Personally, one only needs a few patterns a month, that with the right filters in your toolkit and it's a lock.
Geometric Tools that I use in my toolkit: TRG, TCG, Wolf Wave, Beck's Emblem, Quadrilateral, Andrews Pitchforks, Offset Squares (Tetrad), Time Price Vectors, Parallel Lines Circumscribed Objective, Circumcircle, Even/Odd Squares, Dyad/Arc, Lunar Cycles, Hadrians Wall, Aisha's Trendline, ZBD, Trajan's Trident, Volume, Relative Velocity, Squaring the High, Squaring the Low, Squaring the Range, Secret Angle, Flower of Life, Ellipse. Price Retracements, Price Expansion and more....
Just remember, every indicator is lagging information. What I do is project what the future moves are to be based upon mathematics with odds of probability. Nature is always seeking perfection one might ask, how does it know? The markets are no different(why do you think Fibonacci levels work so well). Usually in my opinion forecasting when done properly and when the Money Makers do not mess with the market and disrupt the pattern flow, complete. Example: throw a pebble in a quiet pond, You notice perfect harmony in ripples. Then throw a big rock into the same pond upon the ripples in harmony, a total disruption of symmetry and harmony. The same applies to the market when MM enter the market. This thread is for those who want a successful trading career, not for bottom feeders.

Quote: Mathematics is the only exact science. All power under heaven and on earth is given unto the man who masters the simple science of mathematics. W.D. Gann
I'd say most people just follow the herd on methods and Technology. I chose a different path, Geometric Trading.
For simplicity, I do like Davit's Pivot Trading and RobinHood's Trading Made Simple(r) as they work and work well I do not claim to have all the answers. I am just one man currently at age 69 that has learned a few truths in this world and am sharing some of those truths here on this thread, that is all. You do as you wish. I've retired from two successful careers. What you are seeing in this thread at this defining moment, it's knowledge in trading is more valuable then all the gold I produced in my lifetime. I'll tell you this, I can tell a winner when I see one. If I try to push you to gain some knowledge and not accept a lesser version of yourself, then I have been successful. If I was a younger man, as most of you are this would be my path to follow.
The rest is up to you....
OK, let's start first Geometric Trading with some tools like the Circumscribed Objective:
The Circumscribed Objective was introduced in the 30's has been probably a most useful tool in forecasting where Time and Price will meet & reverse. Shown is the NZDGBP Daily Chart. Once a potential Gartley pattern is seen and the C leg established, the D leg reversal can be projected using Geometric Trading. First a Circle is applied then measuring the angle of the BC radius with some math D leg is established. (In other words: use the Circumscribed Objective on BC to find D). It works with accuracy most of the time. Basically this method was used to establish Grain prices in the 30's but kinda was swept under the rug since because most people today do not read anymore.

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Marcieny Aug 28, 2019 4:32pm | Post# 2

Great to see that you created a thread !!!

success and Cheers.

js497 Aug 28, 2019 4:48pm | Post# 3

Interesting way DiamondMiner,
waiting more...

hibra68 Aug 28, 2019 5:47pm | Post# 4

The Circumscribed Objective as been probably a most useful tool in forcasting where Time and Price will meet & reverse. Shown is the NZDGBP Daily Chart. Once a potential Gartley pattern is seen and the C leg established the D leg reversal can be projected using Geometric Trading. First a Circle is applied then measuring the angle of the BC radius with some math D leg is established.{image}{image}{image}{image}{image}{image}
Can you give details on how you came up with the angle of the last leg?

DiamondMiner Aug 28, 2019 6:43pm | Post# 5

Great to see that you created a thread !!! success and Cheers.
Hi Marcieny, how's it going below the equator. Anyhow I may put together a course on Geometric Trading if I see enough interest?
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DiamondMiner Aug 28, 2019 6:59pm | Post# 6

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{quote} Can you give details on how you came up with the angle of the last leg?
Hibra68, Here is what is published in about 1934 from the Pickell-Daniel Extension Course of Grain Market Analysis. B point in the center of the circle. In answering your question, draw a center line to the angle, flip 180 degrees then add you D leg to the circle.Attachment 3425671Attachment 3425672 Upon adding another tool the Becks Emblem as a filter to the trade.Attachment 3425731
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Marcieny Aug 28, 2019 7:45pm | Post# 7

{quote} Hi Marcieny, how's it going below the equator. Anyhow I may put together a course on Geometric Trading if I see enough interest? P
it will be amazing if you do that ..
Brazil is gradually getting better, we were very stolen from the previous government .. And now they want to make the Amazon international ... I hope they can't ... the Brazilian people didn't like Macron having spoken of the Amazon as "ours" referring to it as if it were worldwide.

DiamondMiner Aug 28, 2019 8:31pm | Post# 8

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{quote} it will be amazing if you do that .. Brazil is gradually getting better, we were very stolen from the previous government .. And now they want to make the Amazon international ... I hope they can't ... the Brazilian people didn't like Macron having spoken of the Amazon as "ours" referring to it as if it were worldwide.
Marcieny, it's amazing on how other people think they can tell you what to do and how for you to spend your own money. Let me tell you what my Grandfather taught me, he said "Don't let anyone, anywhere ever try to tell you have to live your life and how to spend you own money". The President of France can't even run his own country, ignore him. Click to Enlarge

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Marcieny Aug 28, 2019 8:39pm | Post# 9

{quote} Marcieny, it's amazing on how other people think they can tell you what to do and how for you to spend your own money. Let me tell you what my Grandfather taught me, he said "Don't let anyone, anywhere ever try to tell you have to live your life and how to spend you own money". The President of France can't even run his own country, ignore him. {image}
It's true ... Macron he has endangered Brazil's sovereignty.

DiamondMiner Aug 28, 2019 8:48pm | Post# 10

{quote} It's true ... he has endangered Brazil's sovereignty.
All, I can say is Brazil can and will solve it's own problems no matter what anyone else has to say about it. I've worked with Brazilians for many years, and many are still great friends today.
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Marcieny Aug 28, 2019 8:56pm | Post# 11

{quote} All, I can say is Brazil can and will solve it's own problems no matter what anyone else has to say about it. I've worked with Brazilians for many years, and many are still great friends today. P
It is true... Brazil has improved many things ... and today I can say that the population had never been proud before ,of the a president like Bolsonaro.
thank you very much for your concern.

DiamondMiner Aug 28, 2019 9:17pm | Post# 12

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Please allow me to give you some definition to the Circumscribed Objective. I use the Circumscribed Objective on BC to Find D. I hope this helps. Click to Enlarge

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Stev1929 Aug 29, 2019 1:45am | Post# 13

Congratulations on your thread Pete! You have a wealth of knowledge in geometrics and the teachings of former trading masters that the majority are not even aware of.
M.S Jenkins as you know is my favourite and even his fundamentals on chart reading and price action would vastly improve most traders success rate, he has mine.
Well done for starting this thread.

Steve

DiamondMiner Aug 29, 2019 2:07am | Post# 14

Congratulations on your thread Pete! You have a wealth of knowledge in geometrics and the teachings of former trading masters that the majority are not even aware of. M.S Jenkins as you know is my favourite and even his fundamentals would vastly improve most traders success rate, he has mine. Well done for starting this thread. Steve
Stev, if all of the traders followed at least some of Jenkins work, they'd so much better off. You know, and I know but educating the public is never an easy task.
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Mini7260 Aug 29, 2019 10:15am | Post# 15

{quote} Stev, if all of the traders followed at least some of Jenkins work, they'd so much better off. You know, and I know but educating the public is never an easy task. P
Who is M.S Jenkins?

DiamondMiner Aug 29, 2019 10:39am | Post# 16

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{quote} Who is M.S Jenkins?
Mini7260, Michael Jenkins is of the best and most knowledgeable traders still living today. He is an author on many books and famous for his video on trading and the Secret Angle Method. To me, Jenkins is a light year ahead of the herd. Here are some screenshots from his video. If you can get a copy of his video get it, if you can't afford it, sell your soul or your children, that's how valuable it is. Got the picture?
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If one would use some of the Tips on this active link their trading would improve almost immediately. http://www.michaeljenkinstradingreso...TraderTips.htm

crodzilla Aug 30, 2019 11:45am | Post# 17

Very interested to hear more, Peter.
Thank you for your contributions.

Carl

priceact.fx Aug 30, 2019 7:56pm | Post# 18

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Thanks for the wealth of information, Pete.

Using fundamental / sentiment analysis, GBPCAD was bearish (CAD's GDP printed green and as we are aware, Brexit is wearing down on GBP)
and then using the SQRT(2), SQRT(3) and SQRT(5) method helped determine the timing aspect of reversal and Gann Square of 9 calculations helped determine the potential S/R levels....also use Davit's pivots to determine the buy / sell zones.

Entered SELL on GBPCAD @ 1.62285 (a zone of price and time balance - more or less) and exited @ 1.6181 for a profit of 47 pips. The timing of the exit is also determined using the SQRT (2), SQRT(3) and SQRT (5) method. ...will continue to practice.

God bless you for sharing the details.

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DiamondMiner Aug 31, 2019 4:35am | Post# 19

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When something as simple as a putting a Triad upon the initial impulse wave and then adding a Circumcircle giving additional conformation of a reversal. Now, I have done this on a past tense chart as you see. However, I've done this on present tense charts starting with only a impulse wave. I will use the Circumcircle to find the center of and Triad for Support and Resistance, next, I would compare the Time Price Vector' to identify the end of a correction. After which I check the Degrees (the measurement in degrees is most important, I'll give you a hint. What degrees were the Pyramids built on ? And Why? ) and Fib level. I give the Circumcircle tool a .5 rating, I do not take a trade without a score of 6.0 I would regard the Circumcircle a tool but a low grade evaluation tool. Read everything W.D. Gann had ever written. I will show you more Obi Wan Kenobi. Be Patient... Attachment 3427749
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Whatsaname Aug 31, 2019 4:40am | Post# 20

Great thread! please continue


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