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braintheboss Aug 13, 2019 11:46am | Post# 9441

A good lesson.
Its just check weaks and try find alternatives. In last 2 weeks I made progress with entries and exits but as I commented its far to be perfect. While if i can use system for make easier my manual trading then why wait until i have it fully working? it can be a task of weeks or years...

braintheboss Aug 13, 2019 11:53am | Post# 9442

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dingdong99 Aug 13, 2019 1:34pm | Post# 9443

This is just informative post for show how I work in my side when I have a problem in a test I had setup #1 with a random performance. I had some winner row but a loss row too. At the end this losses were eating all profit. Then I was checking if setup problem was a mix weight problem or something more serious ( just its not a good mix ) First thing I did was check that win/loss rows for check what pins were in the mix. Basically I had 2 of 3 group pins with signal in almost all that trades. And not always had same tools making signal inside every...
good choice, Brain.
no more order in auto, thinking about how will safe in auto mode.
this is multipair, make so difficult if have same scenario in multipair will have same good result, different pair have different caracter too.
that i also think just 1 order in one pair, this is no marti so if correction no enough, will keep in negatif position.
and we don't know how far move the price, the long trend will start or condition market suddently break out.
if have good momentum, order and make fast exit too. one day maybe limit time or limit order just 1 or 2 but have good quality order.
will refresh and have green pip without stress hold in negative position.

in market like War, and the indicator will look good visual after price move.
in war condition, if we can run and still life he/she have good skill or good luck.
in market after price move,,,our balance still full, grow, or negatif position....?
this talk about full automode...so think about quailty order....
that i agree with you, Brain,,just remove bad trade(bad mix, bad combination),
no problem with one day one order or one week just 5 order. but can make grow the balance.

braintheboss Aug 13, 2019 1:53pm | Post# 9444

{quote} good choice, Brain. no more order in auto, thinking about how will safe in auto mode. this is multipair, make so difficult if have same scenario in multipair will have same good result, different pair have different caracter too. that i also think just 1 order in one pair, this is no marti so if correction no enough, will keep in negatif position. and we don't know how far move the price, the long trend will start or condition market suddently break out. if have good momentum, order and make fast exit too. one day maybe limit time or limit...
As you cant avoid bad trades the trick is down trades taken. Score precisely improve trades quality. When I use a mix without it I have more trades opened and worst in overall. Yesterday modification look worked better today but I need finish week for be sure

braintheboss Aug 13, 2019 2:05pm | Post# 9445

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Today I only had 5 bad trades of 33 closed. Better than yesterday so far
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Husky77 Aug 13, 2019 2:05pm | Post# 9446

3 questions on this one

. How many trades /pair you took?
. Did you had one profit peak in green?
. How much pips was the green profit peak?

belie Aug 14, 2019 12:23am | Post# 9447

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{quote} 3 questions on this one . How many trades /pair you took? . Did you had one profit peak in green? . How much pips was the green profit peak?
hi Husky, I have few setups working. The screen shot taken from a one PC and there were 3 strategy variations with different magic numbers. Before hitting the spike I saw very good profits in all accounts. This one had 3 trades per pair. I know its too much for the lot size and account size. This setup I have set last week and for this week I had a carefully treated setup (after taking ideas from you and btb). What my mistake was I have not cared about any kind of magic finger as you said. I think before the spike I had around 1000 green pips in the same setup for last 2 days (some trades opened last week) and some trades recently open before the spike.

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I have not set the SL basket due to one reason. In my my setup I have seen at some movements I have more than 300 pips in red before go green. When I have 3 trades per pair its possible to go too red for some period before go to green. Lets say If I have set -300 in SL basket. Then all trades will be closed even if I have opportunity to take 1000 green pips within next 2, 3 hours. how to deal with this? what SL method is best for my case?

braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 12:57am | Post# 9448

{quote} hi Husky, I have few setups working. The screen shot taken from a one PC and there were 3 strategy variations with different magic numbers. Before hitting the spike I saw very good profits in all accounts. This one had 3 trades per pair. I know its too much for the lot size and account size. This setup I have set last week and for this week I had a carefully treated setup (after taking ideas from you and btb). What my mistake was I have not cared about any kind of magic finger as you said. I think before the spike I had around 1000 green...
But you only had problem in that group? Or all your tests down profit due spikes?

About force closes manually it depends if your auto exits works. It's preferred system c!ose trades indivually. But as you commented if you had trades keeping long time without any close then something didn't work well and maybe you need make finger trick until you find a way trades are closed in a natural way by system

Anyway if you had profit before spike then you don't have worry because nothing was wrong from entries view. This kind of movements are not "normal" and I'm sure killed many traders. Really even i had luck due I closed all before news

paroucia Aug 14, 2019 2:42am | Post# 9449

Today I only had 5 bad trades of 33 closed. Better than yesterday so far {image}
Hi BTB
do you use any filter for entry? is it manual or auto? i wonder you have had 33 position in 1 day and 28 of them closed in profit!
i had a few positions this week so far and many of them hit SL. it is a slow market for me!

braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 3:06am | Post# 9450

{quote} Hi BTB do you use any filter for entry? is it manual or auto? i wonder you have had 33 position in 1 day and 28 of them closed in profit! i had a few positions this week so far and many of them hit SL. it is a slow market for me!
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...3#post12439073

About SL you need normal exits. Hard stops never works well. But you have build an exit strategy different your entries. Entries are delayed due filters then wave path is smaller and you need exit faster before price turns

braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 3:14am | Post# 9451

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This shows what is the real margin when you have a trade if is opened at black circle. Space for exit with profit is small. Then you need exits can manage this as worst case because im overall you will want keep trades if price is in a trend. But even trends have retracements ( waves ) can make fake exits. Its not an easy task find a balance
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braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 3:18am | Post# 9452

At this moment I only got a setup for close bad trades due is not needed fast exits and i can filter fakes better. But if I close profitable trades by manual basket is due I didn't have any good exits for that case

belie Aug 14, 2019 4:07am | Post# 9453

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{quote} But you only had problem in that group? Or all your tests down profit due spikes? About force closes manually it depends if your auto exits works. It's preferred system c!ose trades indivually. But as you commented if you had trades keeping long time without any close then something didn't work well and maybe you need make finger trick until you find a way trades are closed in a natural way by system Anyway if you had profit before spike then you don't have worry because nothing was wrong from entries view. This kind of movements are not...
"Anyway if you had profit before spike then you don't have worry because nothing was wrong from entries view. " these few words made my day... I was confused and confidence less.

setup with 1:200 survived with a loss. Cant compare each other since account sizes are different and the opened trade number at that time.
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braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 4:26am | Post# 9454

{quote} "Anyway if you had profit before spike then you don't have worry because nothing was wrong from entries view. " these few words made my day... I was confused and confidence less. setup with 1:200 survived with a loss. Cant compare each other since account sizes are different and the opened trade number at that time. {image} {image}
You can't take as fail yesterday as you can't take previous Trump tariffs effect as something real. Really since started trade war nothing have logic. Markets move between twits. Sometimes you have luck and storm catch you in right side and other times you finish wet

About tests all were affected but OfficePC look didn't have any problem ( only 40% DD ). If that DD was yesterday effect then are good news. Maybe you have work more taking that test as base. I saw now second capture shows a hidden effect of yesterday spike not showed in first capture. Anyway in overall did it better than others

braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 4:50am | Post# 9455

I would like comment something about people can feel disappointed when things fail. In my case I'm since Sep 18 using a new paradigm about how build an auto system. If in my case all looks easy and fast is due I passed initial stages a few months ago.

But nobody have feel disappointed if in overall their tests were well and failed in days like yesterday. Days like yesterday are exceptional. Who followed my Stack MM will understand where was my system state at that moment and why looks i get fast results now. Really i need more 2 months for fix a big issue. Time I needed for create Score. Really it was my asnwer to one problem i was carrying in my system. As swing system works well in range but fails in strong trends like trade war ( last 3 months ).

If every time i had a problem stops, now I'm not in this sweet moment its just patience and try get max benefit of tools. Reward will arrive if people is constant. You have some example in other threads

paroucia Aug 14, 2019 5:29am | Post# 9456

{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...3#post12439073 About SL you need normal exits. Hard stops never works well. But you have build an exit strategy different your entries. Entries are delayed due filters then wave path is smaller and you need exit faster before price turns
I was trying to find momentum and swing with my setup. it was working past week. but i think these days are not good days for swing and momentum trading. as i see market is slow and can't show where it goes. maybe i'm too young in forex because i see you and husky grabbed many pips this week.

DimasRu Aug 14, 2019 5:32am | Post# 9457

Happy to start testing the system. For some reason, I don't see any of my open orders. Does EAX automatically hide all objects? Is it possible to turn it back on? What would be a solution here? Thanks

braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 5:36am | Post# 9458

{quote} I was trying to find momentum and swing with my setup. it was working past week. but i think these days are not good days for swing and momentum trading. as i see market is slow and can't show where it goes. maybe i'm too young in forex because i see you and husky grabbed many pips this week.
Its because we close trades when reach a min. I'm not sure how do it Husky but in my case I explained it in link posted. Basically i wait new H4 candle. My setup around 150p start to be exhausted and its better close and start new cycle. But every system is different and I'm trying other ways more refinate like only close trades with a min profit. Still all without clear conclusions

PS: Yesterday Husky had 2400p since he started his real account last week. Really crazy

Happy to start testing the system. For some reason, I don't see any of my open orders. Does EAX automatically hide all objects? Is it possible to turn it back on? What would be a solution here? Thanks
Check chart options. Maybe you don't have assigned color or you have disabled show trades

paroucia Aug 14, 2019 5:59am | Post# 9459

{quote} Its because we close trades when reach a min. I'm not sure how do it Husky but in my case I explained it in link posted. Basically i wait new H4 candle. My setup around 150p start to be exhausted and its better close and start new cycle. But every system is different and I'm trying other ways more refinate like only close trades with a min profit. Still all without clear conclusions PS: Yesterday Husky had 2400p since he started his real account last week. Really crazy
i saw your post but it was your dashboard and can't understand what indicators you're using or what you are doing!

braintheboss Aug 14, 2019 6:22am | Post# 9460

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{quote} i saw your post but it was your dashboard and can't understand what indicators you're using or what you are doing!
Its not important what tools I'm using. Its about how i build system. I use different setups for exits and i try have little trades possible ( even this make i miss some good ).

My base is 3 Scores + 1 levels. Pin 92 is levels. Rest are Score with different TF
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