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realjumper Mar 3, 2012 3:04am | Post# 7341

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lhDT Mar 3, 2012 3:11am | Post# 7342

For those that pay attention to gaps......and I'm not one of them.....there is still this gap left unfilled......
True !

Evaluator Mar 3, 2012 3:22am | Post# 7343

S&P does the same on monday 27 ... I finally closed my short position on friday night as I don't want opens trades during the week-end.
The idea now is to go long at open and waiting the gap to be filled then shorting again to take train.

We'll see on monday !

ldHT,

This was an article that was back from 16 Feb really took my attention and I am now watching ''March 23rd for default to be announced after the close of business.'' Per the article. Actually, I am watch from now on as the EU and Greece may surprise everyone and avoid the delay and do it now as I am sure they have been planning under the smoke screen of all these Greece Bailout Sumits. I think now they were more planning meetings for how to handle the Greek exit of the EU.

Remember it is all ''Rainbows and Lollies'' from the Politicians until the bomb explodes...then its all someone elses fault.

Evaluator.

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/greek-default-exclusive-senior-us-bankers-given-explicit-timetable-for-athens-default/

GREEK DEFAULT EXCLUSIVE: SENIOR US BANKERS GIVEN EXPLICIT TIMETABLE FOR ATHENS DEFAULT

http://hat4uk.files.wordpress.com/20...aint.jpg?w=500Wall Street…who gave it a map of the future?

DOCUMENTS RAISE AWKWARD QUESTIONS FOR WASHINGTON, IMF & BERLIN

*****See the update of this piece + new evidence in US & Berlin here.

A written document giving firm dates and detailed actions for a planned Greek default has been in the possession of two top Wall Street bank currency trading bosses since the second week in January. The Slog has separate but corroborative sources affirming the existence of the document, and a conviction among senior bank staff that – at least at the time – the plan represented “a timetable, not a contingency”. The plan gives a firm date of March 23rd for default to be announced after the close of business.
Senior bankers on Wall Street have been given detailed documentation setting out a timetable to Greek default, including firm dates and technical ‘orders’ about last use of the euro as a currency there. The revelation arrived at Slogger’s Roost last Monday, since when I have been trying to obtain corroboration. This arrived in the early hours of today (Thursday). One of the banks is Barclays Capital (Barcap) run by controversial figure Bob Diamond. The other must remain anonymous for the time being, in order to protect sources.
The document asserts that Greece will officially be declared in default by all the ratings agencies after the close of business on Friday march 23rd . At the weekend all Greek bank accounts will be frozen, with emergency measures detailed to prevent the flight of capital. Included in the paperwork is a list of very limited exceptions to the ‘no withdrawals’ order. All major banks ‘are instructed not to deal with euro exchange as of open of business in Greece on Monday 26th march. All Greek markets will close for one day ‘at least’.
As yet, I have been unable to establish the source of the documents. But one of my informants admitted, “I have strongly suggested to Greek business friends and clients that they sell up fast, do a sale and leaseback on property, empty bank accounts, and change to a hard currency.”
I have little doubt that such a critical path analysis leading to default in Athens can be easily brushed aside as contingency planning. But this is not the impression Slog sources were given: and its existence is bound to further raise suspicions in ClubMed about the real intentions of ‘EU Nord’, Washington and the Troika – especially the IMF. In particular, the alleged creation of the document both supports (and/or coincides closely with):
1. Washington going cold on further IMF funding
2. IMF intervention in the Athens debt talks
3. Persistent rumours surrounding Wolfgang Schauble’s plans
4. Evidence previously assembled by The Slog concerning Americo-German coordination
5. A string of delaying tactics by senior EU and Troika officials since mid January.
Reviewing the timeline of the Greek Debt Marathon, the back end of it is pretty obviously one of persistent sabotage from Berlin, Brussels, and the IMF:
1. It’s the second week of January 2012, and the bondholder deal is a few small steps away from lawyers crossing t’s and dotting i’s. Enter Schauble saying the haircut is nowhere near short enough. Bondholders’ leader Charles Dalloran walks out.
2. The Troika barges into the Athens/Bondholder talks, and they turn into chaos, then grind to a halt.
3. FinMinCom meets in Brussels and several encouraging noises are made about progress towards a deal ‘over the weekend’. Enter Merkel bearing demand to fire the Greek Government and replace it with an EU commissioner. This produces four more days of circular delay, following which Nicolas Sarkozy declares that the German demand was never a demand.
4. Lucas Papademos gets personally involved and strikes a deal with Dalloran. Then he extracts the support of all Party leaders for the deal. We’re almost there. Enter Schauble and Brussels saying no, your economy’s worse than we thought – we need a closer haircut and more savings.
5. The troika is now talking direct to the bondholders with Athens outside the loop. The creditors feel on the back foot. They agree to a lower percentage rate for the new bond issues and a 70% haircut. Venizelos meanwhile focuses on finding additional savings. Papademos intervenes again with leaders and creditors. We are now ‘hours away’. Mario Draghi says no, the haircut is too close for the ECB, and not enough for everyone else.
6. Draghi relents a little, the bondholders say they are “tentatively flexible”. We’re two small steps away from a deal. Enter Schauble moaning about £325m of savings unaccounted for…a thousandth of the total Greek debt.
6. Tempers get inflamed back in Athens. Greek leaders start muttering about doing what they have to do, getting the deal signed, and then having elections. Berlin and FinMinCom demand that all Greek Party leaders sign a document ordering them to stick to the deal regardless of election results. This loses another two days….but the bondholders are still keen to sign.
7. The German Bundesbank leaks a story to German newspaper Handelsblatt saying the Greeks will not be able to satisfy bondholder demands, and thus technical default is now a certainty. The story is traced back to the office of anti-bailout hawk Jens Weidmann.
8. Deutsche Mittelstands Nachtrichen runs a story claiming another 2.5 bn euro hole has been found in the Greek budget proposals. The story is deconstructed by The Slog and others and turns out to be complete bollocks. But the FinMinCom meeting in Brussels is postponed, and replaced with a conference call.
9. Merkel says she doesn’t trust New Democracy leader Antonis Samaras. Athenian leaders must now sign another pledge after the additional 325m euros of savings have been found and agreed. They all sign (Wednesday morning – yesterday – 15th February).
10. Yesterday afternoon, the EU finance ministers’ conference call begins to talk about cutting its losses. A firm proposal is tabled – by Berlin, it seems – to divide the next bailout tranche into smaller slices. The next Com meeting is put off for six days.
11. Schauble describes the Greek debt as “a bottomless pit”. Merkel joins the fray by suggesting the bailout be put back until after the April elections. This clearly makes no sense, as from March 16th Greece will be in technical default without more money. But Schauble adds that indeed, Greece should postpone its elections…..and “install a technocrat government similar to Italy’s.”
12. Wen Jiabao makes nice noises about what a fine place Europe is to visit, but van Rompuy and Barroso come away predictably empty-handed.
13. Thursday dawns with everyone wondering where we are. Venizelos accuses “forces trying to push Greece out of the eurozone”. German government spokesman Steffen Seibert calls this “false” and adds, “I can state quite clearly on behalf of the federal government that Germany has taken no such decision.” Nobody said you had, Ducky. Berlin briefs on amphetamines about Angela Merkel being ‘resolutely opposed to default’. A majority of market opinion leaders and bondholders think the EU is bluffing, reports the FT. But a French source tells The Slog earlier today he thinks Germany “is talking from a position of strength. There is no doubt in our minds [in the Elysees] that Berlin has the necessary plans in place.”
We’re but an hour into the working day EU time (1hr ahead of GMT) and already the main EU players are busy installing further roadblocks. Boss of radio Luxembourg Jean-Claude Juncker said, “Further considerations are necessary regarding the specific mechanisms to strengthen the surveillance of programme implementation and to ensure that priority is given to debt servicing.” An intention as vague as that could take forever to fulfil….or until March 23rd.
A senior German official quoted by Reuters has added: “Questions remain that are very important to Germany and other member states about the sustainability of the programme.”
Ultimately, not even the Germans can see into the future: this is get off the pot time….but only if you’ve been devious for some time about being on the pot in the first place. The Slog’s recent profile of Angela Merkel demonstrated beyond too much doubt that the Fuhrerine in Berlin is more than capable of being devious.
In the last three weeks, several EU officials have pumped out the line – over and over again – that Greek default is no longer the bogeyman people thought it was….or to be more precise, they told us it was. “It would have led to a credit crunch immediately and hurt us all,” said a senior eurozone official. “Now, the odds [of such a catastrophic impact] are something like 10-20%. It’s still possible, but it’s not a certainty.”
First of all Draghi pumps money into the banking system, then the Troika/Berlin axis slows everything down. Now awkward facts come to light about the existence of ‘a plan’ which would protect America – by dumping the Greek contagion – and help the eurozone by concentrating the bailout cash available to save the bigger players: Italy, Spain and France. An unpleasant phrase is doing the rounds in Brussels at the moment: ‘amputate and corterise’. It’s certainly beginning to look like that. And without doubt, that’s the way Mario Monti sees it.
Were I Greek, Portuguese or Irish, I’d be a worried man this morning.

Evaluator Mar 3, 2012 3:23am | Post# 7344

For those that pay attention to gaps......and I'm not one of them.....there is still this gap left unfilled......

That will be funny....A gap to close a gap!

ohammond Mar 3, 2012 3:24am | Post# 7345

just skimmed through half of this thread.. bravo and well done

This is the most complete system that I've ever come accross on a free board for that matter.

it really takes the emotion out of trading and really gets us out before a trade goes too far against us. I'm only demo testing this right now as my live account has seen very minimal results from other methods of trading but my first two trades off the 15m have been for a profit of 93 pips with minimal drawdown..

again.. hats off to everyone here you guys might take...
It doesn't matter that it repaints, when you go into the simulator, firstly take only trades that start with an extreme then wait for the trendline to change once the trendline has changed you will find the sentiment and emotion are usually the same colour anyway, then put in your trade. Practise those signals first in the simulator and you will get to see how often they work and it will give you confidence in the system as it is. Then when you've practised those, try other ways, like taking repaint plays (explanation of repaint plays is in Post 1).

Evaluator Mar 3, 2012 3:28am | Post# 7346

olivia,


You mean that indikators in Symphonie repaint???!?!?

I.....I ......I am shocked!!!


Evaluator.

ohammond Mar 3, 2012 3:34am | Post# 7347

olivia,


You mean that indikators in Symphonie repaint???!?!?

I.....I ......I am shocked!!!


Evaluator.

Evaluator Mar 3, 2012 4:56am | Post# 7348

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What happened on Friday really provides traders with a wealth of information as to what can be expected for the the next few weeks, months, and possibly year.......

Friday's price action 100% confirms my post #7141 and post #7158 which called for a reversal of price action and a decline of the EURUSD. However, there is much more information that we can see for the immediate price action and what to expect for Monday and Tuesday.

First we have a confirmed upchannel break with strong force as demonstrated by the large down candlestick that occured on 29 Feb at 17.00GMT. This was then followed by what can be called weak (at best) retracement on Friday that formed the top of the new downchannel for the EURUSD. This was then confirmed when the EURUSD took another drop and finally ended with a consolidation or sideway action for the last few hours of trading.

What does this show us? Well it gives one the parameters for the new downchannel and clearly defines the tops and bottoms. It makes a case that any form of retracement should be contained to the top of the channel at 1.32400 and no higher. (or else we have new channel break) Also, we can now clearly see a large BEAR FLAG that reinforces the channel and provides us with a clear point to take the next Symphonie Signal as price action should break to the downside looking to touch the bottom of the downchannel at 1.30500....That is right! I think that we drop on Monday to the mid 1.30s....!

However, with the new Moody's downgrade of Greece as a totally default/bankrupt nation this could push price action out out of the 1.30s to the upper 1.20s again as the Euro moves ever closer to collapse because of the PIIGS situation. Contagion is alive and well and on the march!!

So, we now have two situations one is definitely stronger than the other. First, (my preferred) the EURO in a Bear Flag pattern will break to the downside a min of 100 pip drop on Monday before consolidating and dropping again staying in the downchannel. Second, we have a clearly defined downchannel and a breakout to the up side in the price action could be the long awaited retracement to the 61.8 fib of the prior up channel break which gives one a new level to once again sell the Euro.

Now you have my thoughts.........

Evaluator.
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Seabreeze Mar 3, 2012 5:27am | Post# 7349

olivia,


You mean that indikators in Symphonie repaint???!?!?

I.....I ......I am shocked!!!


Evaluator.

Hey Eval maybe you should change page one to this


Warning !!

Symphonie Indicators re-paint but could seriously damage your broker

wrapocs Mar 3, 2012 5:42am | Post# 7350

indicators
 
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ohammond Mar 3, 2012 6:38am | Post# 7351

indicator pack, sefec and support tpl
I don't think I could work with that template lol, why would we need all these extra indicators

ohammond Mar 3, 2012 7:15am | Post# 7352

I can only watch from the sidelines today after blowing my account ... sigh...
How did you manage to blow your account? Were you trading the symphonie system or something else?

ohammond Mar 3, 2012 7:29am | Post# 7353

Unfortunately I don't have a screenshot for this issue since it's hard to catch, but I'll try to describe it as good as I can. When getting a signal I've noticed that the Matrix will often repaint previous sentiment, emotion and trend bars, making it appear that a signal occured 4-5 bars earlier than it actually did. I still did enter on the signal, but this keeps me a little nervous, giving the impression of a late entry. I've noticed this on the 5m timeframe. Anybody with the same experience? I'll try to catch a screenshot of it at the first occasion....
The most the trendline indicator will repaint is the previous bar, so instead of going in on the 2nd blue trendline square it will very often be the third, with a full signal for symphonie the trendline is always the last to change. That is why in my trades I look for an extreme first, then I concentrate on the trendline, the others usually fall into place anyway once the trendline has turned and if they haven't but everything else looks in place for a trade I will still take it on the 5min because it will repaint anyway if it works.

Martinius Mar 3, 2012 8:24am | Post# 7354

The most the trendline indicator will repaint is the previous bar, so instead of going in on the 2nd blue trendline square it will very often be the third, with a full signal for symphonie the trendline is always the last to change. That is why in my trades I look for an extreme first, then I concentrate on the trendline, the others usually fall into place anyway once the trendline has turned and if they haven't but everything else looks in place for a trade I will still take it on the 5min because it will repaint anyway if it works.
Ok, understood! Now all indicators seem to work now so I can concentrate on trading them properly. Will be testing extesively the coming week. Have a good weekend! Green PIPs!

bobmorloc Mar 3, 2012 9:44am | Post# 7355

i wont paste my old trades coz you will ask me again why i did what i did.(some of the positions i took where experiments of applying pivots and S&R - i will share them when i have sufficient experience to share)

if you want to better understand the trades made click my name and scroll down. im running a demo account named pareto. the entry positions are there. open both your M5 and verify if you received a signal around that time in M5. if you dont have a log, get a copy of the LFH simulator and run M5 to see if signaler 1.7 (signals not matrix) provides you the same signal as the positions i took.
Thanks a lot yelena for sharing your demo account and please don't stop it. It's really very usefull. I did a test and I perceive there is a problem. But before we draw conclusions i need an answer :

Can you confirm this :
all your 3 trade on Friday were taken only with all symphonie signal red (even spike) ?

Thanks

yelena Mar 3, 2012 9:53am | Post# 7356

Can you confirm this :
all your 3 trade on Friday were taken only with all symphonie signal red (even spike) ?

Thanks
i never mentioned anything about the spikes. so i dunno.

bobmorloc Mar 3, 2012 10:09am | Post# 7357

i never mentioned anything about the spikes. so i dunno.
I think you misunderstood me. What i want to know is if all the four indicators
trend , emotion, sentiment and even extreme were red when your enter your trade?

yelena Mar 3, 2012 10:18am | Post# 7358

I think you misunderstood me. What i want to know is if all the four indicators
trend , emotion, sentiment and even extreme were red when your enter your trade?
i suppose so, else the signaler wont give a signal, oui? i dont inspect the details, as long as the signaler signals and its to the direction of H1, jump. but if its the last few mins of the H1 bar, or if a long tailed one (opposite of H1), or if H1 candles are already consolidating - the common sensical red flags, no i dont.

my eyes (quite literally common sense) would tell me, that is not a good trade. i dont think when i trade (over analyze, hope) i just trade with what i see. fair enough?

bobmorloc Mar 3, 2012 10:30am | Post# 7359

i suppose so, else the signaler wont give a signal, oui? i dont inspect the details, as long as the signaler signals and its to the direction of H1, jump. but if its the last few mins of the H1 bar, or if a long tailed one (opposite of H1), or if H1 candles are already consolidating - the common sensical red flags, no i dont.

Ok thanks.
that's what i thought.
I am beginning to understand why i always fail with this sytem.
I did test with lfh simulator and i don't have the same signal at all.
settings are exactly the same as yours and it's fxpro too, so i don't understand such a difference.
it is likely that we are much in this case on this forum

yelena Mar 3, 2012 10:37am | Post# 7360

Ok thanks.
that's what i thought.
I am beginning to understand why i always fail with this sytem.
I did test with lfh simulator and i don't have the same signal at all.
settings are exactly the same as yours and it's fxpro too, so i don't understand such a difference.
it is likely that we are much in this case on this forum
then there's something wrong with your set up.

that is long trending H1 and M5 even a 30 -15 supertrendline will refuse to change color and you are likely to get a sell signal every 5 mins. except for the long-tailed ones in the H1. i got 27 sell signal yesterday.

if you cannot manage the simulator, then next week, have a unit running for 2 days with my tpl in M5. signaler leaves a blue line for buy and red line for sell - assuming you did not close your terminal. then you can look back at it. no one loses money by waiting in the sideline.

if you have to restart/close the terminal before you have the time to review it, then same that is a tpl. which you can re-launch restart, upon loading that tpl


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