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4xStar Aug 26, 2009 8:37am | Post# 1

NITRO Scalping for serious traders
 
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Nitro Scalping is a trading strategy using RENKO bars instead of candles (although some still use candles).
We try to stay focused on PA (price action) instead of relying on indicators, which nearly always lag price. Our goal is to trade pure PA capturing 3-10 pips per trade.

Using this "less is more" strategy, many are saying they are making consistent profits in forex for the first time ever.
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TRADING NITRO

A commercial version of the renko bars is recommended, the free version written for MT4 does not work well.
UPDATE: some programmers in FF have been working on the free version and now say that it is working. You can visit the Renko Block Chart thread in the Programming Forum to obtain the latest version.
To locate the commercial version, do a search for "mql renko bars".

Renko bars, invented by the Japanese (of course!) operate 'outside of time'. They only form when a specific number of pip movement has been achieved no matter how long this takes. This makes the charts 'less noisy' and easier to see price movement. They take some getting used to, but most who use them for a week or two greatly prefer them to candles. (also iinvented by the Japanese....)

We put up 4 charts of these pairs: EY, GY, AY and either NZD/Y or CAD/Y and then during specific trading times (below) we sit back and watch for CORRELATION in price movement between the 4 pair.
USD/JPY can also be watched, but is normally not traded.

We are looking for all 4 pairs to be moving in sync. When this correlation is spotted (and it occurs at least once during every trading session) you can take your trade in all pairs or just focus on one or two. Your choice.

For indicators, we use the sm trix-colored candles (smC4scalperCandles) to color the renko bars, settings 2,1,1,1, indicator attached below.
DX Trade wrote a neat 'dashboard' and some use that, also attached
A HMA color line is used as moving average, settings are 8,3,3 or 10,3,3. Some use other settings or you can use the MA in Color with Applied Price.
Momentum indicator set to 4 is a standard MT4 indicators.
A Trix indicator is also used but it is built into the dashboard & into the candles.
And .. Chris_B wrote a Nitro arrow indicator based on momentum that many find useful (and he is still working on improving...)
All attached.

However as stated above, our goal is to ELIMINATE indicators and learn to trade on pure & naked PA (price action). Those who have learned to do this, since early August 2009, are already seeing consistent profit with a 90% or better win ratio.

As to how to do it, you will learn fastest from the charts posted on this thread.

Once CORRELATION is noted, we are looking for a 'primer' which could be trix-colored candles changing color, then a 'trigger' which could be the moving average cross.
The rules are not set in stone as people find their own favorite primers and triggers.
The object, once again, is to learn how to 'see' from PA alone where price is going next and then to capture only a fraction of that move.
Studying the charts posted in this thread is the best way to learn how to do this successfully.

Template is not provided as nearly everyone does it a bit differently. Study the charts!!

Best Hours to Trade: just before & during major market opens, i.e. Tokyo-London open or London-US Open. Renko bars can be traded anytime but best PA is during those overlap times.

The R:R is not good with this strategy .. that is admitted up front. But the WIN ratio (once you get used to doing this) is spectacular. We are going for 3-10 pip gains, usually 3-5, and do it several times until 2% account growth goal is reached. Rinse & repeat.
Stop losses are usually set at 20-30 pips (I told you the RR sucked!) But if you are winning 95% of the time .. do you care?

Some traders just wait for correlation, then pick the strongest pair and put a 5 lot trade on that one. 5 pips profit x 5 lots = 25 pips. They are done for the day.
This is not a strategy to become a mega-millionaire, just to make a comfortable full time living trading Forex. 25 pips a day trading full lots is $250 per day, 50 pips (two 5 lot trades in the example above) is $500 per day. Most can survive on that.

Please use Demo accounts only to start! When you can bank your 3-5 pips consistently without emotion you may be ready for live trading.

The method is 25% mechanical .. 75% emotion. You will learn the mechanical part with constant practice. The 75% emotional part means keeping greed in check. The temptation to try for 'just a few more pips' can be an account-killer.
NOTE: several traders who have already become skilled at doing this are now finding ways to capture more pips with longer moves. The basic strategy remains the same however, the goal is consistent daily pips, 20 to 30 total and newbies to the method are advised to become very proficient at capturing the smaller pip moves before even considering greater profits.
A $1000.00 account, gaining 25 pips per day, 5 days a week, with the power of compounding willl grow to $40k in just one year!

Many posters on this thread are already skilled at this and new ones will learn best from studying their posts & charts.
Many people are saying they are earning money consistently for the first time ever with this strategy.

***SEE ALSO POST #31, PAGE 3 FOR MORE EXPLANATION ON TRADING NITRO***


And please re-read the above one more time and help us keep the focus in this thread. If you have a favorite indicator or a neat way of using trailing stops .. please post it somewhere else .. thanks!
DXTrade Nitro Dashboard.ex4
HMA Color nrp.ex4
smC4Scalper Candles_v3.1.ex4
Nitro-Momentum-Indy-V2.ex4

Joeyd Aug 26, 2009 8:42am | Post# 2

Thank you, 4xStar, for starting this thread. I hope that the more experienced traders will continue to post here enabling us to learn and earn a bit more.

f4mnect Aug 26, 2009 8:46am | Post# 3

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i'm in, heres my 2 trades so far today. I do run a 10 pip tp ea. for when the markets moving well, but do also close slower movers at +5
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tekoja Aug 26, 2009 8:55am | Post# 4

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Just posted this in the C4 thread as well but will post it here as well,2 trades on EJ for +5 each.

The GMACD signals on the bottom shows me the overall trend nicely,started using it on Nitro today so cant comment on how usefull it is yet,I personally like it visually.
Not sure what settings im going to use on the arrows,still working on that.

Nice job on creating a Nitro thread.

Edit: Actually its +7 and +5,looks like my EA took the first trade out a bit later.

~Jeroen
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rina5392 Aug 26, 2009 9:02am | Post# 5

Now starting
 
I am now starting to use Nitro, I will post as I go. rough start though.

Maybe we should list the indicators used, settings, and method in the first page ?

DaveW Aug 26, 2009 9:04am | Post# 6

Checking in
 
4XStar.

Thanks for starting up our new home. Look forward to contributing my two pennyworth.

Regards

Dave W

DaveW Aug 26, 2009 9:14am | Post# 7

New York News
 
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Would not enter the trade until the spread on Oanda has returned to normal (after 1 min) , by which time the direction is determined. Did not trade but looking back for interest sake would have been an easy 7 pips.
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roto7gl Aug 26, 2009 9:19am | Post# 8

Thanks 4xstar. I will post here but also waiting for a response from edge on the other thread.

hopefully, the drama doesn't follow us so we can get on with our trading.

Took a loss today trading the news. Got in a little late. I should know better
There comes that 75% thing again


Greg

4xStar Aug 26, 2009 9:23am | Post# 9

Thanks 4xstar. I will post here but also waiting for a response from edge on the other thread.
I am too .. this may be a temporary home, but so far it is free of negativity.

Took a loss today trading the news. Got in a little late. I should know better
There comes that 75% thing again


Greg

Yep .. go for the sure ones, otherwise go to Vegas

4xStar Aug 26, 2009 9:24am | Post# 10

I am now starting to use Nitro, I will post as I go. rough start though.

Maybe we should list the indicators used, settings, and method in the first page ?
You're right, I will amend the first post and add indicators.

Thierry89 Aug 26, 2009 9:27am | Post# 11

Those who want to swing trade, take more profit, make more than 2% or become forex billionaires are invited & encouraged to go elsewhere.
Why are you so restrictive 4xStar ?
It could be a complementary method to the swing trade and what do you mean by "for serious traders only" ?

johnami Aug 26, 2009 9:53am | Post# 12

All those who are serious about continuing to learn this SCALPING technique to take 3-10 pips per trade, 2% per day are welcome. Those who want to swing trade, take more profit, make more than 2% or become forex billionaires are invited & encouraged to go elsewhere. On FF there is room for all.

We still have much to do .. let's get back to work.
My thanks also for starting this thread. This method has been good for me, and I think for many others. All of the drama has gotten old - I hope that you will have a heavy finger for those that try to disrupt here. At the end of the day, MOST of us are here to learn, not to play games.

Best Regards!

4xStar Aug 26, 2009 9:53am | Post# 13

Why are you so restrictive 4xStar ?
It could be a complementary method to the swing trade and what do you mean by "for serious traders only" ?
This is a scalping thread, we are not interested in discussing swing trading. There are plenty of other threads for that discussion. Feel free to use this as a 'swing trade' but please do not post results or commentary in here. We want to stay focused. Thanks.

4xStar Aug 26, 2009 9:55am | Post# 14

...
- I hope that you will have a heavy finger for those that try to disrupt here.
...
Oh, I plan to

tex Aug 26, 2009 10:08am | Post# 15

Hello 4xStar,

why so fast with opening a new thread? - Lets wait for the final outcoming of the 'edge incident'. He seems to be KB but perhaps FF will allow him to continue his work. If not there will still be time to open a new home of Nitro trading.

Tex.

wannaberich Aug 26, 2009 10:10am | Post# 16

looks nice, this new house!
 
just was a little sad to see that i am not welcome since i Wannaberich! lol

now seriously, enjoy the new house a lot and hope it will have a nice "environment", positive and supportive.

good one, 4xstar!

good pips to all.

4xStar Aug 26, 2009 10:13am | Post# 17

Hello 4xStar,

why so fast with opening a new thread? - Lets wait for the final outcoming of the 'edge incident'. He seems to be KB but perhaps FF will allow him to continue his work. If not there will still be time to open a new home of Nitro trading.

Tex.
This may be a temporary home, it can always be dismantled, but I didn't want to risk losing some of the excellent traders contributions over the next few days. Keep the energy going until we know what will happen next.

4xStar Aug 26, 2009 10:16am | Post# 18

just was a little sad to see that i am not welcome since i Wannaberich! lol

now seriously, enjoy the new house a lot and hope it will have a nice "environment", positive and supportive.

good one, 4xstar!

good pips to all.
Oh you can 'wanna be rich' all you want! I'm sure that is ultimately all our goals, just .. no promises.

Until just now I was not seeing any correlation on the 4 pairs (I am using NZ-Y as my fourth) .. but as of a few minutes ago .. thar they go!

4xtrader2 Aug 26, 2009 10:18am | Post# 19

Nitro Trading
 
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wannaberich Aug 26, 2009 10:30am | Post# 20

so impulsive
 
God i am so impulsive (and greedy, by the way)

good trade on CY and then screwd up with a late trade on EY.

so long is the road for me. and it could be so easy: just follow (and respect) the signs!


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