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  • EU will respond to additional U.S. tariffs with tariffs of its own - Haber

    EU WILL RESPOND TO ADDITIONAL U.S. TARIFFS WITH TARIFFS OF ITS OWN - GERMAN AMBASSADOR TO U.S. HABER

    — MacroGuru (@macroguru9) January 22, 2020
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  • Jan 22, 2020 11:23am Jan 22, 2020 11:23am
  •  OnlineAddict
  • Joined May 2014 | Status: From $1 to Million | 2961 Comments | Online Now
Everytime I order stuff from the US, I go through bureaucracy hell and pay too much extra, stupid european hypocrisy.

I don't remember going through the same when getting stuff from EU to the US.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
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  • Jan 22, 2020 11:26am Jan 22, 2020 11:26am
  •  sadeghi
  • | Joined Feb 2019 | Status: Member | 851 Comments
lets start a new game after a while , i can't deal with myself till i see UJ under106 again. us election, phase two and the permanent chaos in the middle east all tell me that risk aversion is on the way.
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2020 11:31am Jan 22, 2020 11:31am
  •  Marcieny
  • Joined Jan 2019 | Status: "Ideas stimulate the mind" | 227 Comments
sinks the dollar UE ...the dollar is very expensive.
Proverbs 18.15
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2020 11:37am Jan 22, 2020 11:37am
  •  swing77
  • Joined Oct 2015 | Status: Ltf market | 1471 Comments
run garetha....run
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  • Jan 22, 2020 11:59am Jan 22, 2020 11:59am
  •  Breza
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just digital tax, mega companies use digital space for free (more than half a billion people in EU) and take extra profit.
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2020 12:23pm Jan 22, 2020 12:23pm
  •  Nobody-yet
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sinks the dollar UE ...the dollar is very expensive.
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Even more so is the euro !!!
 
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  • Jan 22, 2020 12:52pm Jan 22, 2020 12:52pm
  •  Marcieny
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{quote} Even more so is the euro !!!
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the euro will one day sink the pound too.
Proverbs 18.15
 
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  • Jan 22, 2020 1:28pm Jan 22, 2020 1:28pm
  •  here2there
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{quote} the euro will one day sink the pound too.
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Crypto Currencies will eventually sink them all.
You don't know because you don't ask.
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2020 2:53pm Jan 22, 2020 2:53pm
  •  Marcieny
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{quote} Crypto Currencies will eventually sink them all.
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it will be ?
Proverbs 18.15
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2020 3:23pm Jan 22, 2020 3:23pm
  •  here2there
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{quote} it will be ?
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We are moving towards a global digital monetary system. Bitcoin is leading the way. Though I don't believe Bitcoin will be 'the One to Rule them All', so to speak. But it has started a fire that has become too big to extinguish. It won't be long before we see leading world governments bringing out their own digital currencies. Even the EU is considering it, as well as China, and the FED. It's not a question of will it happen but when.
You don't know because you don't ask.
 
 
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  •  Marcieny
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{quote} We are moving towards a global digital monetary system. Bitcoin is leading the way. Though I don't believe Bitcoin will be 'the One to Rule them All', so to speak. But it has started a fire that has become too big to extinguish. It won't be long before we see leading world governments bringing out their own digital currencies. Even the EU is considering it, as well as China,...
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I understood Thanks, in the truth there is a Criptocurrency named USDCOIN.

this complements what you just said, it will affect the price between them more.
but btc was the first of all I believe that it will not affect him so much now, maybe he will have a good fall in the future as he will be highly valued.
Proverbs 18.15
 
 
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  •  RossEdwards
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just digital tax, mega companies use digital space for free (more than half a billion people in EU) and take extra profit.
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Yes. I believe we are missing some key concepts here in this discussion.. that of Digital-Airspace... both in terms of access... (vis Great China Firewall) and of Corporate Virtualization .. a broadening of national corporate tax reach which have traditionally been based on the physical presence of a company in a jurisdiction,to qualify.
The problem is that the nature of the "barter" commerce being engaged in our new digital economies is financially unaccountable.
Global Digital companies trade their "Free" online services in return of the right and opportunity to collate vast amounts of data and personal information about their users. This is a totally commercial abeit being a non monetary transaction. A barter transaction. A transaction that involves a trade of enormous value but currently undefined in financial terms... and consequently effective non taxable by current conventions.
More seriously for every country however is the security implications of the collection and holding of vast amounts of information by unaccountable foreign entities about the private lives, commercial activities and political sentiment of their citizens. The whole world and its politicians just waking up to the dangers and implications of this.

While the Trump administration lobbies, threatens and coerces allies to deem Huawei involvement in 4/5G telecoms infrastructure a major security threat .. the reality is that the the US through FAANG has effective access to the most enormous cache of foreign intelligence data in the world. It makes the alleged Huawei threat look like a joke.
The value of that personal data already out there is of unbelievable commercial and strategic political value, and these transactions, unrecorded because the are of a barter/non-financial, nature represents the biggest untaxed value exchange in the world.

An international consensus (staring with OECD initiative) and formula to assess how to evaluate and tax these transactions at national level as advantages over multiple individual national initiatives like UK and French taxes currently being contested by Trump.

IMHO my personal concern is the security implications for every country, of these giant and ever growing overseas held caches of personal citizen data are the biggest security and political risk national governments and democracy now faces. China spotted this problem a decade ago. They dont let this happen. The EU is struggling to legislate and failing to protect its citizens privacy.
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  • Jan 23, 2020 6:58am Jan 23, 2020 6:58am
  •  Breza
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Global Digital companies trade their "Free" online services in return of the right and opportunity to collate vast amounts of data and personal information about their users. This is a totally commercial abeit being a non monetary transaction. A barter transaction. A transaction that involves a trade of enormous value but currently undefined in financial terms... and consequently effective non taxable by current conventions.
More seriously for every country however is the security implications of the collection and holding of vast...
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Yes, the net monetary value of the EU market should also be counted.
Every click on an advertisement or just showing it on a web platform is paid for and all the Revenue goes to the company headquarters.
How much is a million dollars a day? directly for Facebook, Google etc.
Free e-commerce space for Ebay, Amazon, Alibaba should also be considered.
The EU does not get a single dollar.
 
 
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  • Jan 23, 2020 10:02am Jan 23, 2020 10:02am
  •  Bones
  • Joined Nov 2007 | Status: left CanaryWharf desk-tea break | 2755 Comments
omg , why people keep looking to the great success of china , there the same America haters normally
Wrong on reasoning anyway

The reasons behind the Internet censorship in China include: Social Control: The Internet is a means for freedom of speech, and dissemination of campaigns could lead to protests against the government. Sensitive Content: To control information about the government in China


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{quote} Yes. I believe we are missing some key concepts here in this discussion.. that of Digital-Airspace... both in terms of access... (vis Great China Firewall) and of Corporate Virtualization .. a broadening of national corporate tax reach which have traditionally been based on the physical presence of a company in a jurisdiction,to qualify. The problem is that the nature of the "barter" commerce being engaged in our new digital economies is financially unaccountable. Global Digital companies trade their "Free" online services...
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  • Jan 23, 2020 10:05am Jan 23, 2020 10:05am
  •  Bones
  • Joined Nov 2007 | Status: left CanaryWharf desk-tea break | 2755 Comments
how many people fight for the dictatorships and superstate arguments is super scary- on Forex Factory...
no poverty in china apparently, would you seriously want to live there
#doyourownanalysisordietryin
 
 
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