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    Lawmakers will be unable to stop a no-deal Brexit on Oct. 31 by bringing down Britain’s government in a vote of no confidence next month, Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s top aide has advised, according to the Sunday Telegraph. Dominic Cummings, one of architects of the 2016 campaign to leave the European Union, told ministers that Johnson could schedule a general election after the Oct. 31 Brexit deadline if he loses a vote of no confidence in parliament, the newspaper said, citing sources. Johnson has promised to lead Britain out of the EU on Oct. 31 with or without a deal but has a working majority of just one ... (full story)

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  • Aug 3, 2019 10:32pm Aug 3, 2019 10:32pm
GBP will fly to north from Monday onwards
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  • Aug 4, 2019 1:44am Aug 4, 2019 1:44am
Quoting upasna
GBP will fly to north from Monday onwards
GBP toward under 1.20
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  • Aug 4, 2019 2:58am Aug 4, 2019 2:58am
Given how unreliable and difficult the UK has been over EU membership, it is a pity that France did not stick to its guns in the 60's and continued to veto UK membership. But UK begged so hard that France finally relented. And now UK just wants to pick up its bat and ball and leave like a temperamental child. What a shambles and disgrace.

The United Kingdom made its first application to join the European Union in 1961. It was quickly apparent that there was a danger of political isolation within Western Europe, Commonwealth states were rushing to do deals with the new bloc, and it had American support. This application was vetoed by the French Government in 1963 with a second application vetoed by the French again in 1967. It was only in 1969 that the green light was given to negotiations for British membership.

The United Kingdom joined the European Economic Community (as it then was) on 1 January 1973 with Denmark and Ireland. This proved controversial at the time. The Labour party initially sought renegotiation of membership. This was toned down to requiring a referendum on whether the United Kingdom should remain part of the Community. This referendum was duly held in 1975 with a 67% vote in favour of continued membership.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 5:05am Aug 4, 2019 5:05am
Quoting upasna
GBP will fly to north from Monday onwards
Probably, but how many pips, 6 or 7?
And then....down to the southern beaches of a banana Republic.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 6:02am Aug 4, 2019 6:02am
GBP goes to the toilet..South..
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  • Aug 4, 2019 6:33am Aug 4, 2019 6:33am
They might have missed that net contribution since 2000

Between 2000 and 2017 the UK gave the EU around £122 billion more than it received in return, once you factor in inflation

Quoting sydap2017
Given how unreliable and difficult the UK has been over EU membership, it is a pity that France did not stick to its guns in the 60's and continued to veto UK membership. But UK begged so hard that France finally relented. And now UK just wants to pick up its bat and ball and leave like a temperamental child. What a shambles and disgrace. The United Kingdom made its first application to join the European Union in 1961. It was quickly apparent that there was a danger of political isolation within Western Europe, Commonwealth states were rushing to...
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  • Aug 4, 2019 8:13am Aug 4, 2019 8:13am
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They might have missed that net contribution since 2000 Between 2000 and 2017 the UK gave the EU around £122 billion more than it received in return, once you factor in inflation {quote}
But of course that is not the complete picture. So it is more a question of whether you want to be a team player for the good of the wider Union and emerging economic partners, or whether you just complain and ignore the greater contributions made by other countries.

The UK, being one of the EU’s largest economies, pays more than most members. Only Germany and France consistently contribute more funding, while Italy pays about the same amount.

The UK’s rebate is a discount on its contributions so it reduces what it would otherwise pay, and increases what other member states pay. Without the rebate the UK would be the second largest contributor behind Germany.

Factoring in money that comes back as well, the UK is one of 10 countries that pay more in than they get back. Relative to the size of their economies, Germany and the Netherlands are the biggest contributors and Bulgaria and Hungary are the biggest receivers.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 9:22am Aug 4, 2019 9:22am
Guys from here there is a chance 50 50 of drop or up . The negative news is already priced in about 50% . But the issue is the parlement is shut down . This stupid counselor don’t know that if parlement said no to no deal and Johnson do it then probably he will spend his life in prison after that . All businesses will sue him because he has no legal approval from parlement to drag the country without a deal . No one has given him this authority . In addition this is only news talking . So I see for sure the pound going up after all this mess . But the point is when exactly
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  • Aug 4, 2019 9:24am Aug 4, 2019 9:24am
What kind of reason would make the GBP go up?

besides technical?

and long traders expectations?
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  • Aug 4, 2019 9:28am Aug 4, 2019 9:28am
Man he just lost one of his MPs in an area that is already a conservative . Plus the negotiations did not start yet . Once the negotiations and parlement start the talks gbp up .
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  • Aug 4, 2019 9:52am Aug 4, 2019 9:52am
I do not know what news more Gu will rise ... I will wait for the right time to buy.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 11:28am Aug 4, 2019 11:28am
Test
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  • Aug 4, 2019 11:57am Aug 4, 2019 11:57am
Quoting Ghass1234
So I see for sure the pound going up after all this mess . But the point is when exactly.
In case of a no-deal it will be early October. Load your guns.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 12:24pm Aug 4, 2019 12:24pm
Nothing like a bit of spin and half truths getting in the way of a rant is there sydap .

I'm sure Australia was once a colony of GB

Just a thought
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Quoting Marcieny
I do not know what news more Gu will rise ... I will wait for the right time to buy.
only second referedum will make it rise, other than that its only going one way and there's nothing or noone stopping it.
KEK
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  • Aug 4, 2019 3:07pm Aug 4, 2019 3:07pm
no Uk is the second biggest net contributor by far

Quoting sydap2017
{quote} But of course that is not the complete picture. So it is more a question of whether you want to be a team player for the good of the wider Union and emerging economic partners, or whether you just complain and ignore the greater contributions made by other countries. The UK, being one of the EU’s largest economies, pays more than most members. Only Germany and France consistently contribute more funding, while Italy pays about the same amount. The UK’s rebate is a discount on its contributions so it reduces what it would otherwise pay, and...
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  • Aug 4, 2019 3:10pm Aug 4, 2019 3:10pm
it's not a team game, it's a new country being formed over time,
that the people of UK can't change anything directly
since its a monster size situ we are diluted and don't agree on the direction
we don't want it
we do want what the Unions original intention was -of trade and very close other ties

Quoting sydap2017
{quote} But of course that is not the complete picture. So it is more a question of whether you want to be a team player for the good of the wider Union and emerging economic partners, or whether you just complain and ignore the greater contributions made by other countries. The UK, being one of the EU’s largest economies, pays more than most members. Only Germany and France consistently contribute more funding, while Italy pays about the same amount. The UK’s rebate is a discount on its contributions so it reduces what it would otherwise pay, and...
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  • Aug 4, 2019 3:17pm Aug 4, 2019 3:17pm
there's going to be a big financial hole, and that's where the divorce bill stems
all this could have been avoided if they never kicked off humiliating Cameron then subsequently May
unfortunately your still talking to the second biggest contributor=theres no getting away from it
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  • Aug 4, 2019 3:22pm Aug 4, 2019 3:22pm
water off a
bureaucrats back- to all those in EU, were being funneled into a no-deal situ
so be it
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Quoting Bones
there's going to be a big financial hole, and that's where the divorce bill stems all this could have been avoided if they never kicked off humiliating Cameron then subsequently May unfortunately your still talking to the second biggest contributor=theres no getting away from it
We don't want to avoid it why do you think we won't negotiate anything ? You people WANT us to prevent Britain leaving, we avoid nothing. Brexit suits us, we like it, so bring it on, don't beg for an extension again.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 4:11pm Aug 4, 2019 4:11pm
lol
let's see... it suits me not to be sucked into an uncontrollable mega-state, bye-bye EU -any price....

I wonder what would someone do in the USA or like our commercial friend above in Australia - to stop being swallowed up into a new entity



Quoting barkie
{quote} We don't want to avoid it why do you think we won't negotiate anything ? You people WANT us to prevent Britain leaving, we avoid nothing. Brexit suits us, we like it, so bring it on, don't beg for an extension again.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 4:17pm Aug 4, 2019 4:17pm
you can't be a net contributor to a team by far, that has half net recipient of the money and come away with a bill if you leave
all it means is EU haven't put aside enough money in the first place

that bill needs looking at it critically, it won't be the 40 billion
unchecked it will keep rising, which is a third of what we paid already since 2000

Personally, I doubt we owe anything outside the current cycle in law
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Quoting Bones
there's going to be a big financial hole, and that's where the divorce bill stems all this could have been avoided if they never kicked off humiliating Cameron then subsequently May unfortunately your still talking to the second biggest contributor=theres no getting away from it
Cameron and May were not humiliated. Cameron made a deal with EU which was turned down by UK brexiteers. May also made a deal with EU.
You should also try to put the EU contributions in perspective. The EU budget is about 1% of the EU countries GDP. In 2016 the taxpayers of United Kingdom contributed to the European Union 154 euros per head over what they received. http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=UK

The benefits of being part of a single market are much more than the small contribution.

Let's see what cost will be per capita when all the car makers leave UK and move to the continent after a hard brexit. At least 800,000 jobs will be lost and other industries fill follow suit. This will have a quite bad ripple affect on the economy. EU countries on the other hand will be very happy to welcome 800,000 new car industry jobs.
It will be interesting to see how once so great country self destructs.
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Quoting Bones
you can't be a net contributor to a team by far, that has half net recipient of the money and come away with a bill if you leave all it means is EU haven't put aside enough money in the first place that bill needs looking at it critically, it won't be the 40 billion unchecked it will keep rising, which is a third of what we paid already since 2000 Personally, I doubt we owe anything outside the current cycle in law
You will be needing the 40 billion badly after EU countries take most of your manufacturing jobs which are much more valuable. Even the Finnish national budget is much more than 40 billion. Your national debt will explode after brexit provided that someone still lends you money. The national debt of UK stands at £1.786 trillion, increase that with 40% and count how much that is per capita compared to the 40B you think that you are saving by not paying EU or compare it to UK's contributions to EU.
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Cameron was sent packing by the EU with nothing substantial to offer the electorate .

Yes barkie I'm sure Mr Rutte will be resonating your thought entirely . As will the ports of the NL . Brexit suits you does is it with the Dutch economy at around 27/28th on World GDP .

Great .

Yes trader toro let's see how the German manufacturers fair when they lose their largest export market . I'm sure you know how lobbyists work so yes that's a pretty poor example

Don't talk about National debt when you have the PIGS in the EU ( No offence to the individual countries by the abbreviation I actually love these countries ) I simply use it to counter the BS spouted here

What clowns
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  • Aug 4, 2019 5:01pm Aug 4, 2019 5:01pm
I'm quite sure that people in UK will continue to buy European cars also in the future, they will just be much more expensive because of tariffs and much weaker pound. That's what happens when your standard of living gets lower.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 5:07pm Aug 4, 2019 5:07pm
Really . How sure are you ? The UK market is already at saturation point as is the global trend . But if you're sure then i trust your word .

Well your standard of living will be just fine when you contributions increase along with most other countries . Fine by me .
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Quoting Vancarbon
Really . How sure are you ? The UK market is already at saturation point as is the global trend . But if you're sure then i trust your word . Well your standard of living will be just fine when you contributions increase along with most other countries . Fine by me .
Yes, absolutely fine as paying 10 euros more per year to EU makes no difference to my budget.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 5:37pm Aug 4, 2019 5:37pm
Yes as always let someone else " foot the bill "

It'll be a whole lot more than that

No need to paraphrase everything .I'm astute enough to know when you're addressing me
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  • Aug 4, 2019 5:44pm Aug 4, 2019 5:44pm
why would they when corporation tax easily offsets, let alone the lowering of that tax up and coming
its a threat to keep staus que

Quoting TraderTero
{quote} Cameron and May were not humiliated. Cameron made a deal with EU which was turned down by UK brexiteers. May also made a deal with EU. You should also try to put the EU contributions in perspective. The EU budget is about 1% of the EU countries GDP. In 2016 the taxpayers of United Kingdom contributed to the European Union 154 euros per head over what they received. http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=UK The benefits of being part of a single market are much more than the small contribution. Let's see what cost will be per capita...
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  • Aug 4, 2019 5:46pm Aug 4, 2019 5:46pm
Cameron deal was seen a joke and May took the full force of humiliation
the rule is who do we think we are wanting to control our boarders etc

Quoting TraderTero
{quote} Cameron and May were not humiliated. Cameron made a deal with EU which was turned down by UK brexiteers. May also made a deal with EU. You should also try to put the EU contributions in perspective. The EU budget is about 1% of the EU countries GDP. In 2016 the taxpayers of United Kingdom contributed to the European Union 154 euros per head over what they received. http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=UK The benefits of being part of a single market are much more than the small contribution. Let's see what cost will be per capita...
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  • Aug 4, 2019 5:47pm Aug 4, 2019 5:47pm
they won't with a 10% tariff
so who pays that tariff not Uk

Quoting TraderTero
I'm quite sure that people in UK will continue to buy European cars also in the future, they will just be much more expensive because of tariffs and much weaker pound. That's what happens when your standard of living gets lower.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 6:09pm Aug 4, 2019 6:09pm
I thought about it and 10% is a massive tariff on the whole product, and that can't easily be recovered on the back end of lower tax on profit
but lower tariffs which are the majority can easily cover the cost if you compare say France or Germany
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the truth is BMWs are already in a sweet spot they cant add 10% and expect people to carry on buying them
UK car plants would most likely supply the UK market in that case
I don't know the numbers ,honestly I don't care
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  • Aug 4, 2019 7:05pm Aug 4, 2019 7:05pm
another consideration is sterling falling for exports, as a positive factor
the cross-border components need to be soured Uk or use the -up and coming tax-free zones at ports
the main thing is Business will need to adapt current supply chains to survive

I'm thinking it's not the simple jobs go from the UK to where EU cause that makes sense in today's set up
because it really depends on many more factors than your simple EU lover considers,
they can't see outside the small box the EU gives them of what exists today
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  • Aug 4, 2019 7:24pm Aug 4, 2019 7:24pm
In theory a fall in the currency is a monetary stimulus to an economy open to international trade and investment. A weaker pound increases the sterling price of imported products and this increase in relative prices ought to improve the price and cost competitiveness of domestic suppliers in the UK. It also allows UK exporters to lower their prices (expressed in a foreign currency) and hopefully achieve an expansion of overseas sales.
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Quoting Vancarbon
Nothing like a bit of spin and half truths getting in the way of a rant is there sydap . I'm sure Australia was once a colony of GB Just a thought
No spin and half truths or rants, but yes we were a colony once. I do have this crazy vision however of Boris Johnson paragliding into Dublin and reclaiming Ireland to form the GUK (Greater UK). Then this whole sticking point with the Irish backstop would be done and dusted.
Of course Scotland may then secede, reducing GUK to just SUK (Smaller UK) again, on the basis that its oil revenues are being disproportionately siphoned off by London and that its Parliament is not independent enough to fight off the London bureaucrats; just like the UK Parliament is apparently not strong enough to deal with the EU Brussels bureaucrats.
And yes, every now and then secessionist voices in either WA or North Qld threaten to leave the Commonwealth of Australia. Thankfully common sense prevails.
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Quoting Bones. "In theory a fall in the currency is a monetary stimulus to an economy open to international trade and investment. A weaker pound increases the sterling price of imported products and this increase in relative prices ought to improve the price and cost competitiveness of domestic suppliers in the UK. It also allows UK exporters to lower their prices (expressed in a foreign currency) and hopefully achieve an expansion of overseas sales."

This used to be the case pre-Trump when globalisation policies ruled the world and economies were open to international trade and investment. But now it seems that countries which let their currencies fall, will be penalised by the USA with hefty tariffs thus bringing the hoped for expansion of overseas sales for UK into question.

Whether that will ultimately lead to a weaker or stronger pound is anyone's guess.
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  • Aug 4, 2019 10:01pm Aug 4, 2019 10:01pm
very funny
Scotland runs a big deficit even with the oil, the oil just helps bridge the gap a little


The latest Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (Gers) data for Scotland shows that for 2017-18 overall state spending hit £73.4bn compared to tax income of just under £60bn, including oil revenues. That left a deficit for the year of £13.4bn, compared with £13.5bn the year before. Scotland’s deficit was equivalent to 7.9% of GDP, while for the UK as a whole it was 1.9%.



Quoting sydap2017
{quote} No spin and half truths or rants, but yes we were a colony once. I do have this crazy vision however of Boris Johnson paragliding into Dublin and reclaiming Ireland to form the GUK (Greater UK). Then this whole sticking point with the Irish backstop would be done and dusted. Of course Scotland may then secede, reducing GUK to just SUK (Smaller UK) again, on the basis that its oil revenues are being disproportionately siphoned off by London and that its Parliament is not independent enough to fight off the London bureaucrats; just like the...
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The scots would be mad as hatters to vote leave Uk as the Irish ,
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  • Aug 4, 2019 10:25pm Aug 4, 2019 10:25pm
I'm thinking more about the deficit with EU, thats going lower...
Threequarters of all import trade from the EU is with no more than 5 countries out of the union, this is another blow to other countries paying the bill

Only the EU could dream of implementing Tariffs on such a deficit of trade, with political motivation

Us is already a big trading partner that won't change, but improve
I believe Trump wants a deal and is anti-EU

Quoting sydap2017
Quoting Bones. "In theory a fall in the currency is a monetary stimulus to an economy open to international trade and investment. A weaker pound increases the sterling price of imported products and this increase in relative prices ought to improve the price and cost competitiveness of domestic suppliers in the UK. It also allows UK exporters to lower their prices (expressed in a foreign currency) and hopefully achieve an expansion of overseas sales." This used to be the case pre-Trump when globalisation policies ruled the world and economies...
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  • Aug 4, 2019 10:37pm Aug 4, 2019 10:37pm
they had their chance with May, if they removed the backstop into the declaration of trust this would be done and dusted, but apparently, that can't be in a trust document even though we would never ever put up a border
EU believers think it's about the border
That's when they humiliated her the most
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The United States has a services trade surplus of an estimated $14 billion with United Kingdom in 2018, up 14.0% from 2017.
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Quoting Bones
very funny Scotland runs a big deficit even with the oil, the oil just helps bridge the gap a little The latest Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (Gers) data for Scotland shows that for 2017-18 overall state spending hit £73.4bn compared to tax income of just under £60bn, including oil revenues. That left a deficit for the year of £13.4bn, compared with £13.5bn the year before. Scotland’s deficit was equivalent to 7.9% of GDP, while for the UK as a whole it was 1.9%. {quote}
Sorry, got it wrong then.

So better if England and Wales leave the UK leaving Northern Ireland and Scotland to look after themselves; perhaps they might ask to rejoin the EU for more handouts and hence also resolve the Irish border issue.
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  • Aug 5, 2019 3:25am Aug 5, 2019 3:25am
Quoting Bones
they had their chance with May, if they removed the backstop into the declaration of trust this would be done and dusted, but apparently, that can't be in a trust document even though we would never ever put up a border EU believers think it's about the border That's when they humiliated her the most
Arrogance and ignorance can lead to humiliation.
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Quoting barkie
{quote} We don't want to avoid it why do you think we won't negotiate anything ? You people WANT us to prevent Britain leaving, we avoid nothing. Brexit suits us, we like it, so bring it on, don't beg for an extension again.
I believe that a no deal Brexit and tariffs ( although hurtful at first) will be a better long term outcome for the EU because the current UK corporate law and lower UK taxes have costed the EU jobs and they contributed to the reduced tax revenue in other EU countries.

The lower tax revenue, created a larger budget deficit in many EU countries and forced them to reduce spending on essential services.

A customs union with the UK is also not good for the EU countries
because the UK will continue to have EU market access and it will not pay anything for it.
Have a nice day
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Quoting billv
{quote} I believe that a no deal Brexit and tariffs ( although hurtful at first) will be a better long term outcome for the EU because the current UK corporate law and lower UK taxes have costed the EU jobs and they contributed to the reduced tax revenue in other EU countries.
You got it Billy, we gave all those jobs away, manufactured cars cross 4 times the Dutch channel only to give Brits something to do (like putting a few screws in or some other nonsensical job).

We allowed them to take advantage of us for much too long, I say European jobs for the Europeans, we can't take care of every country in the world especially when they are virtually bankrupt.

I hate to say it but East is the future, West is the past, so let's go with the flow, Earasia here we come !
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Quoting barkie
{quote} You got it Billy, we gave all those jobs away, manufactured cars cross 4 times the Dutch channel only to give Brits something to do (like putting a few screws in or some other nonsensical job). We allowed them to take advantage of us for much too long, I say European jobs for the Europeans, we can't take care of every country in the world especially when they are virtually bankrupt. I hate to say it but East is the future, West is the past, so let's go with the flow, Earasia here we come !
Australia has never been part of the EU but we have also lost our auto manufacturing industry. And as new previously low-cost countries joined the EU, their living standards and wages increased/were forced up as part of the "entry fee" thus reducing the low cost advantage that these countries had for manufacturing; and hence lessening the cost disadvantage that the UK and other developed economies in the EU had. So maybe the UK is just one of many nations "suffering" from globalisation on a worldwide basis rather than it being due to EU membership per se.
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the Uk union is not about money,
Eu has successfully distributed the money which is a long term problem for Uks well being before the EU
and I think should continue without a process of sending billions elsewhere first.
This is the slogan take back control, both Brexit party and Conservatives look North for investment and this is right even though i'm in the South
The Scots don't believe this investment will continue and they're better off in the EU and UK, hence the vote
They also like freedom of movement, but most migrants stay England-South

cancel HS2 straight away , and the Brexit party-
list 50 other needed infrastructure projects for the same money-mostly in the North


Quoting sydap2017
{quote} Sorry, got it wrong then. So better if England and Wales leave the UK leaving Northern Ireland and Scotland to look after themselves; perhaps they might ask to rejoin the EU for more handouts and hence also resolve the Irish border issue.
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