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  • Britons would now vote to stay in EU, want second referendum: poll

    From reuters.com

    More Britons want to remain a member of the European Union than leave, according to a survey published on Sunday which also showed voters want to make the final decision themselves. Britain is due leave the EU on March 29, but Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her exit deal approved by parliament, opening up huge uncertainty over whether a deal is possible, or even whether the country will leave at all. The survey by polling firm YouGov showed that if a referendum were held immediately, 46 percent would vote to remain, 39 percent would vote to leave, and the rest either did not know, would not vote, or ... (full story)

what a fake news ... U.K- people are a proud nation . They will never changed their mind. The survey published is more than a propaganda for remainers.
Quoting hkg_paul
what a fake news ... U.K- people are a proud nation .... .
....under, French, Roman, Viking, German etc rule for nearly 800 LAST years if my history is correct

About 2nd 3rd referendum.... Here
https://www.forexfactory.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3153268&d=1546805335


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Quoting hkg_paul
U.K- people are a proud nation.

Thanks, that was a good one.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
What a manipulated news before market open!!

UK ppl voted for out EU. Their vote must be respected.
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the people are proud
the politicians are pansies

Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Thanks, that was a good one.
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"The survey by polling firm YouGov showed that if a referendum were held immediately, 46 percent would vote to remain, 39 percent would vote to leave"

The same clowns that said this about brexit 2016 "Remain 52%, Leave 48%"

They should probably lay low a bit longer until the public forgets how misrepresentative their poll was last time.

edit: change of wording to satisfy "Gupz"
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Quoting robgsxr
"The survey by polling firm YouGov showed that if a referendum were held immediately, 46 percent would vote to remain, 39 percent would vote to leave" The same clowns that said this about brexit 2016 "Remain 52%, Leave 48%" They should probably lay low a bit longer until the public forgets how wrong they were last time. {image}
they were wrong????? In 2016 they didnt make a 'prediction', they conducted a survey. Similarly, they have done another survey in 2019 and they are merely posting the results of that survey. It has nothing to do with them being right or wrong about anything.

Read to understand, not to just comment
Quoting Gupz
{quote} they were wrong????? In 2016 they didnt make a 'prediction', they conducted a survey. Similarly, they have done another survey in 2019 and they are merely posting the results of that survey. It has nothing to do with them being right or wrong about anything. Read to understand, not to just comment
And Reuters are using that "Survey" in their article to manipulate people.
Quoting Bones
the people are proud the politicians are pansies {quote}
Politicians are a reflection of their voters.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
Quoting Not-KPMG
{quote} ....under, French, Roman, Viking, German etc rule for nearly 800 LAST years if my history is correct About 2nd 3rd referendum.... Here https://www.forexfactory.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3153268&d=1546805335
Yes I have read it before and it is likely the EU more than the Britton
Negotiations is sometimes like poker. You need to bluff and who got the bigger stack.
Quoting Gupz
{quote} they were wrong????? In 2016 they didnt make a 'prediction', they conducted a survey. Similarly, they have done another survey in 2019 and they are merely posting the results of that survey. It has nothing to do with them being right or wrong about anything. Read to understand, not to just comment
Sure, it's only because Reuter bring such a headline is more or less to encourage to have a 2nd referendum, thus the remainer have nothing to lose, because they lost in the first one already.
And reuter or BBC are acting as a pro EU median with lots of propaganda.
It is not going to be as easy as that.

A new referendum with a remain in Europe outcome will need approval of other EU members.

A wife starts a divorce process suddenly sees that terms may not be favourable, then withdraws the case in court, the husband has to agree again because the divorce process would have caused some damages to the relationship.
Bollocks!
Britons will join the EU, if the EU change their name to Great Britain.
This is very bullish for GBP and a Brexit sooner than later. After all the bad press for the PM and no deal such a high proportion supporting Brexit is astounding!
Quoting Gupz
{quote} they were wrong????? In 2016 they didnt make a 'prediction', they conducted a survey. Similarly, they have done another survey in 2019 and they are merely posting the results of that survey. It has nothing to do with them being right or wrong about anything. Read to understand, not to just comment
Thanks for that Gupz, the 2016 Yougov poll simply didn't represent the actual result of the referendum. I have edited my comments to reflect your point.
According to the law dictionary there are 3 types of mis-representation:

Fraudulent misrepresentation.
Negligent misrepresentation.
Innocent misrepresentation.

I will happily let readers conclude for themselves which one they think applies in the case of "Yougov" polls
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As largely position/fundamental driven GBP traders for over a decade with a sole focus in making money from macroeconomic trends and major Market risk mispricing. Its not surprising then that Brexit has given us our most successful trading run since 2008. Nor that we find reading comments here in support of that policy so full of inaccuracies, and analytical misjudgement, of concern, because of their influence on retail traders whos propensity to loose money in Fx is widely acknowledged.
This Brexit crisis on which 1-3 year horizon GBP levels are so dependent, is in many senses unique since it is based on a self created crisis, based on ideological aspirations, which are unfortunately have involved political decisions entirely disconnected from their economic consequences.
Our reading of Market mispricing to date is based on the misjudgement that rationality and pragmatism will ultimately prevail. And ultimately it will, but for GBP and the UK economy its our judgement that it will happen too late to avoid further very serious irreparable damage to both GBP and UK economy.
Quoting hkg_paul
{quote} Sure, it's only because Reuter bring such a headline is more or less to encourage to have a 2nd referendum, thus the remainer have nothing to lose, because they lost in the first one already. And reuter or BBC are acting as a pro EU median with lots of propaganda.
BBC should be judged of committing treason hostile acts against the UK Brexiters Holy Party and aiding its enemies
Welcome UK Brexiters dictatorship!

BBC such intelligent people, how can they be so subversive?!?!?!...
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The key point is the UK people have lost faith in the current set of politicians - who so far have squandered time created false flags and generally have not delivered on what they were voted in to do - 'in the best interests of the country'. The disconnect between reason and emotion will persist until time has fully run out and the process becomes a default.
'The best interest of the country' is a little more complex than common people are able to assess.
Sure, they want lots of jobs, higher wages, mooore freedom, no ugly dangerous strangers, bankers lynched... and all of these they want them NOW!

Economy involves political, social, financial, and all kind of macro sophisticated indies and specific elements that even the experts can have problems to handle.
So paradoxically, in some areas people might not be aware what's the best even for themselves on longer term!

Ok, I'm not saying democracy is a mistake ... but still...
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he really believes the collective is worse than the few
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...and there are inept people who seizes every flying idea whitout been asked
...itchy asses
Incredible, some really believes the teachers should learn from the students, because they are a collective
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Quoting Guest
As largely position/fundamental driven GBP traders for over a decade with a sole focus in making money from macroeconomic trends and major Market risk mispricing. Its not surprising then that Brexit has given us our most successful trading run since 2008. Nor that we find reading comments here in support of that policy so full of inaccuracies, and analytical misjudgement, of concern, because of their influence on retail traders whos propensity to loose money in Fx is widely acknowledged. This Brexit crisis on which 1-3 year horizon GBP levels are...
I actually agree with most of what you wrote above. I do have a question for you - Just a few posts above your post a commercial member wrote that this is bullish for GBP yet you claim it is bearish, yet you both are commercial members? So who's right? ....
...because you never know - until you do!
Quoting Lamplighter
The key point is the UK people have lost faith in the current set of politicians - who so far have squandered time created false flags and generally have not delivered on what they were voted in to do - 'in the best interests of the country'. The disconnect between reason and emotion will persist until time has fully run out and the process becomes a default.
Big thumbs up.


Yes, but even 5-10-15 years ago, the liars were sooooo obviously lying, yet supported by........ electorate.
Is immigration new thing??????
Who fostered "cheap labor " then right-wing whackos????
Errrr......
When will someone learn??? Another 10 years???
LOL.

Sorry, my autoCensor kicked in
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Quoting fxsport
{.. a question for you - Just a few posts above your post a commercial member wrote that....You bearish.....
So who's right? ....
You can't ask such question of a party in the dispute

And answer is - both.

Spikes 1.29-30 1.24-26 then up....then down....
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Quoting Bones
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For Information:

To trade successfully in this GBP/Brexit quagmire.. its important to read and assess data properly.
So with respect, I point out the data you have republished above relates to a narrow survey of TORY (UK Conservative) PARTY MEMBERS/Voters ONLY. It is NOT representative of the electorate, .. and does not represent the wider sentiment of the British Public. It helps nobody when the limitations of data republished is unclear.

An indication of how unrepresentative of Public sentiment these figures are, may be gauged by the fact that the same subset of the electorate Tory Party members (75%), apparently believe that a no-deal Brexit would not cause serious disruption a view directly contradicted by both the the electoral majority and the majority of MPs. It should also be remembered that the Conservative (TORY Party) is a MINORITY Party and a Minority Government.

In the interests of balance, I suggest Traders/analysts contrast this to the latest and largest poll of ALL voters YouGov survey published last week ***(25000) which reveals that a clear majority are now in favour of a Second Look Referendum, as the only fair and democratic way to resolve the UKs Parliamentary paralysis and ensure a democratic decision on the options available. This is particularly pertinent since that similar polls consistently report a major swing in voter sentiment to reversing of the 2016 decision, in the light of the choices now available.

***https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/3ia2o3oyky/PeoplesVoteResults_190104_LargePoll_w.pdf

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-poll-predicts-swing-to-remain-in-second-brexit-vote/
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