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  • U.S. Ambassador Haley: U.N. has exhausted options on North Korea

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    U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said on Sunday the U.N. Security Council has run out of options on containing North Korea’s nuclear program and the United States may have to turn the matter over to the Pentagon. “We have pretty much exhausted all the things that we can do at the Security Council at this point,” Haley told CNN’s “State of the Union,” adding that she was perfectly happy to hand the North Korea problem over to Defense Secretary James Mattis. As world leaders head to the United Nations headquarters in New York for the annual General Assembly meeting this week, Haley’s ... (full story)

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  • Sep 17, 2017 6:34pm Sep 17, 2017 6:34pm
  •  Ken A
  • Joined Jun 2012 | Status: ケンジ | 840 Comments
Nikki Nimrata Randhawa Haley is wrong. She said the double-freeze proposed by Russia and China is insulting.

Moscow and Beijing has proposed a so-called “double-freeze” initiative, which calls for Pyongyang to suspend its nuclear and ballistic missile tests in exchange for a halt to joint US-South Korea military drills. The idea, however, has been firmly rejected by the United States, which says it reserves right to conduct military drills with allies wherever they please.
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  • Sep 17, 2017 7:38pm Sep 17, 2017 7:38pm
  •  Pip-Miner
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Dennis Rodman would of done a better job negotiating with missile man. To admit all options exhausted is a massive failure.
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  • Sep 17, 2017 7:51pm Sep 17, 2017 7:51pm
  •  Newstart08
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Don't count on the UN to support any action against North Korea. Hundreds and hundreds of rockets coming from Gaza toward Israel and still Gaza is favored. We live in an era where powerful nations are ignored by any small radical country. I hope the USA will drop the United Nations. It (UN) is little more than a social club whose members can ruin free in the USA with diplomatic immunity. Has any member even given thought to what would have happened if the North Korean missiles would have missed the ocean? It is time for the USA to put a stop to North Korea which would mean an end to much of the country. Those are the breaks when you tick off the big guns.
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  • Sep 17, 2017 7:59pm Sep 17, 2017 7:59pm
  •  Aussi
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Don't count on the UN to support any action against North Korea. Hundreds and hundreds of rockets coming from Gaza toward Israel and still Gaza is favored. We live in an era where powerful nations are ignored by any small radical country. I hope the USA will drop the United Nations. It (UN) is little more than a social club whose members can ruin free in the USA with diplomatic immunity. Has any member even given thought to what would have happened if the North Korean missiles would have missed the ocean? It is time for the USA to put a stop to...
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Yep it passed its use by date i agree with you
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
 
 
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  • Sep 18, 2017 3:22am Sep 18, 2017 3:22am
  •  Salazar
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Actually rockets coming from Gaza to Gaza because that's there land for much longer then Israel was planed by usa free Gaza
 
 
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  • Sep 18, 2017 4:27am Sep 18, 2017 4:27am
  •  Newstart08
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Gaza was Egypt and they didn't want it returned.
 
 
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  • Sep 18, 2017 6:12am Sep 18, 2017 6:12am
  •  DrManhatten
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{quote} Yep it passed its use by date i agree with you
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UN is just a vessel to vent and to send messages. As the saying goes in psychology is that it is not always what is being said, but what isn't being said that is the real message. Trade negotiations with US and China are not to China's liking currently, and so by way of trying to gain economic leverage over the US is to use NK as a proxy in order to get more concessions favorable to them in such trade negotiations. China is using NK as bait in hopes that Trump will take it, and as such will spring a trap to get the US in yet another long drawn out war. US holds all the cards when it comes to using economic tools over China, such as Banks, real estate holdings and having the worlds largest trade market. China is much more vulnerable in this aspect than many people don't seem to realize. If the US falls for this trap then China will all be too happy to oblige, knowing it would weaken America's economic strength, and China would be waiting on the sidelines to clean up and play the good cop. This is their strategy, as their strategy is a zero sum game when it comes to economics. The US is wise to use their other options such as the banking sector to put pressure on China to deal with North Korea. So when Haley says that she has exhausted all options available to her, she is only speaking of the UN council, a organization that is feckless when it comes to enforcement of their imposed sanctions. Remember the civil war of Sri Lanka? When the UN abandoned thousands of innocent people to be left behind to face certain genocide at the hands of their own government? To this day, the UN did nothing, and to this day no one has ever been held accountable for the atrocities committed by the pro Sri Lankan government forces at the time. The UN is a worthless organization that only serves as a social country club for foreign nationals who are a bunch of self indulging elitists who want nothing more than to have the special privileges that such country clubs afford them.

The point is, pay attention to the China US trade negotiations that is going on behind the scenes, and you will no doubt start connecting the dots as to the time of these missile launches and the rhetoric that is being reported in the media.
 
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  • Sep 18, 2017 8:14am Sep 18, 2017 8:14am
  •  Nick.
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Don't count on the UN to support any action against North Korea. Hundreds and hundreds of rockets coming from Gaza toward Israel and still Gaza is favored. We live in an era where powerful nations are ignored by any small radical country. I hope the USA will drop the United Nations. It (UN) is little more than a social club whose members can ruin free in the USA with diplomatic immunity. Has any member even given thought to what would have happened if the North Korean missiles would have missed the ocean? It is time for the USA to put a stop to...
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I think is time for the US to mind their own business.
O wait! That is their business!
 
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  •  StrongOnStab
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Yey, thanks! Now is the whole picture a little clearer to me. In fact, Gaza launches missiles through Guam and pushes America into the war that will be lost again. Politics is really complicated.So Gazis is also a communist oasis?
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Hundreds and hundreds of rockets coming from Gaza toward Israel and still Gaza is favored.
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{quote} UN is just a vessel to vent and to send messages. As the saying goes in psychology is that it is not always what is being said, but what isn't being said that is the real message. Trade negotiations with US and China are not to China's liking currently, and so by way of trying to gain economic leverage over the US is to use NK as a proxy in order to get more concessions favorable to them in such trade negotiations. China is using NK as bait in hopes that Trump will take it, and as such will spring a trap to get the US in yet another long...
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Good analysis. @Dr.
Head and shoulders above most.
Problem is China seems to be, only game in town ?
 
 
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  • Sep 18, 2017 8:35am Sep 18, 2017 8:35am
  •  StrongOnStab
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The point is, pay attention to the China-US trade negotiations and Trump affairs with Taiwan which forcing the Chinese to increasingly think about (not) covering the US debt in the future.
 
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  • Sep 18, 2017 9:14am Sep 18, 2017 9:14am
  •  Ken A
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lol
 
 
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  •  DrManhatten
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{quote} Good analysis. @Dr. Head and shoulders above most. Problem is China seems to be, only game in town ?
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Thanks. This is a subject matter that I know pretty intimately about, having many different experiences with trade and China. I work with a US company here in the UK, in which I specialize in International Trade law.

Why do you think China is the only game in town? This is a resounding no! India is the next player that will siphon off China's controlling interests in the manufacturing game.

This problem started when NAFTA and the renegotiations of it's outdated terms started to heat up. China has been getting away with murder and has taken advantage of US provisional trade loop holes for a better part of 25+ years. The only reason why it hasn't been a issue for the US and dealing with the many problems affecting it's economy is because US spineless leadership has turned a blind eye to it, due to China buying US debt and protecting their own lobbyists who want nothing more than to get rich while selling out their own country at the same time. China has been supplying Canada and Mexico with goods and using NAFTA to skirt import taxes on their own goods. Germany and other countries have also been doing the same thing for many years now. Wilbur Ross and Robert Lighthizer are very astute on these issues and have called out China for their manipulating the current rules. Now as it stands, China is in realization that they will no longer be able to get away with the old tricks and tactics that worked for them in the past. Now enter NK, and their use of the Nuclear ballistic Missile issue to try to black mail the world community, because China has no leverage in regards to the economic front with the world's largest economy, and as it stands China is on shaky grounds when it comes to their own domestic economic issues where trillions of dollars are at stake.

Also what people fail to realize or acknowledge, is the fact Trump and his team has recently formed a strategic alliance with India with the intent to create jobs for it's citizens and shore up the manufacturing and cheaper labor demands for US companies. This is one major aspect that China, with their rise of their middle class, (and they like what such wealth has afforded them and will be hard pressed to let that go) labor costs, particularly in the manufacturing sector which is getting more expensive for foreign interests is starting to come to terms with.

When President Trump discusses the issues with North Korea later today at the UN, there will be a clarity of purposeful intent to broadcast to the larger international community. However, the specific target of that address as it relates to the DPRK will be squarely aimed at Beijing. Again pay attention to the language and what is not being said, as such body language and tone will be key in recognizing the broader message being conveyed.

How can an interested follower be assured of this prediction?"

Simple really, it goes back to the diplomatic pattern recognition. When POTUS Trump is planning on delivering a bitter pill of truth, he takes the lumps out in advance via direct contact with the economic adversary who will bear the brunt of internal demands for a response. Don't be surprise if another missile is launched over Japan again in order to provoke the US to act militarily. If one of those missiles hits a major city or air base due to a miscalculation or for that matter willful intent, then all bets will be off. That being said, the US can not afford to go in an all out invasion of NK and expect to come out whistle clean. No, the more effective means to any military confrontation will have to be a Multinational coalition force similar to one that was assembled in the first gulf war when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Hopefully it will not lead to that because it would be a catastrophic event, where many human casualties is almost a certainty, but the US will not act alone if such an event were to happen for to do so would be suicide.
 
 
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  • Sep 19, 2017 2:32am Sep 19, 2017 2:32am
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{quote} Thanks. This is a subject matter that I know pretty intimately about, having many different experiences with trade and China. I work with a US company here in the UK, in which I specialize in International Trade law.
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{quote} Why do you think China is the only game in town? This is a resounding no! India is the next player that will siphon off China's controlling interests in the manufacturing game. .
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Sorry @Dr. .."only game in town.."..I was thinking specifically about (the News Story).. direct US leverage on Pyongyang. And Chinas unique centrality..historically economically geographically, polically, culturally & strategially in mediating the situation. Now .. US economic leverage on China.. in facilitating that.. is a massively complex subject.. and way beyond my PayGrade.. Lol
 
 
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  •  DrManhatten
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{quote} Sorry @Dr. .."only game in town.."..I was thinking specifically about (the News Story).. direct US leverage on Pyongyang. And Chinas unique centrality..historically economically geographically, polically, culturally & strategially in mediating the situation. Now .. US economic leverage on China.. in facilitating that.. is a massively complex subject.. and way beyond my PayGrade.. Lol
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