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    President Trump’s executive order on immigration indefinitely barred Syrian refugees from entering the United States, suspended all refugee admissions for 120 days and blocked citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries, refugees or otherwise, from entering the United States for 90 days: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen. The order unleashed chaos on the immigration system and in airports in the United States and overseas, and prompted protests and legal action. Here is a quick guide to what we know and what we don’t know about the order. What We Know The executive order was signed at 4:42 p.m. ... (full story)

  • Comment #1
  • Jan 29, 2017 4:27pm Jan 29, 2017 4:27pm
What a show!!!

You are fired!!!!

You impeached.!!!

You....

Bread and circuses!!!
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
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  • Comment #2
  • Jan 29, 2017 4:59pm Jan 29, 2017 4:59pm
The start of a massive global chaos.
Trading is not for everyone.
  • Comment #3
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:02pm Jan 29, 2017 6:02pm
the free ride is over in the US...... try Canada . Our leader is an air head Socialist .......
  • Comment #4
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:04pm Jan 29, 2017 6:04pm
So what now??
Stocks down. Obviously.

Will euro or dollar go up???

Ideas??
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
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  • Comment #5
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:37pm Jan 29, 2017 6:37pm
Quoting Not-KPMG
So what now??
Stocks down. Obviously.

Will euro or dollar go up???

Ideas??
Maybe Euro up ......but sell It on a good bounce ....Good Luck ...
  • Comment #6
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:41pm Jan 29, 2017 6:41pm
Quoting Not-KPMG
So what now??
Stocks down. Obviously.

Will euro or dollar go up???

Ideas??
Risk off mode = Strength to USD.

Yeah what a show. What is next? Muslim badges? http://newsexaminer.net/politics/donald-trump-introduces-refugee-muslim-badges/
Trading in the shadow of SM
  • Comment #7
  • Jan 30, 2017 12:34am Jan 30, 2017 12:34am
Quoting Earleone
Risk off mode = Strength to USD.

Yeah what a show. What is next? Muslim badges? http://newsexaminer.net/politics/don...muslim-badges/
Please tell me this is a hoax.
  • Comment #8
  • Jan 30, 2017 12:40am Jan 30, 2017 12:40am
I am shocked.
No Trump supporters ranting and raving about all this ?
Come on, please explain to us this genius strategy from your Dear Leader.
  • Comment #9
  • Jan 30, 2017 12:41am Jan 30, 2017 12:41am
After everything that has transpired anything now seems possible.
  • Comment #10
  • Jan 30, 2017 12:57am Jan 30, 2017 12:57am
Quoting Earleone
Risk off mode = Strength to USD.

Yeah what a show. What is next? Muslim badges? http://newsexaminer.net/politics/don...muslim-badges/
I would be interested in seeing a video of Trump saying this.

I'm quite sure it would be highly unconstitutional
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Mingary
I am shocked.
No Trump supporters ranting and raving about all this ?
Come on, please explain to us this genius strategy from your Dear Leader.
its easy get rid of the dead wood and let the forest grow
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
Quoting Aussi
its easy get rid of the dead wood and let the forest grow
And later they come for you ....
The Republicans are given him enough rope to hang himself while Pence waits his turn.
Quoting Earleone
Risk off mode = Strength to USD.

Yeah what a show. What is next? Muslim badges? http://newsexaminer.net/politics/don...muslim-badges/
More Golden showers bollocks, the article headline is a piece of trash.

Trump did not suggest badges or even a database, that was the "suggestive" efforts of a reporter.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/20/opinions/obeidallah-trump-anti-muslim/

But as usual, the critical mass swallow the news headlines hook, line and sinker

No surprises there
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Ill-b-back
More Golden showers bollocks, the article headline is a piece of trash.

Trump did not suggest badges or even a database, that was the "suggestive" efforts of a reporter.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/20/op...p-anti-muslim/

But as usual, the critical mass swallow the news headlines hook, line and sinker

No surprises there
Yes ... "it's only a database" (;

"Just so it's clear, Trump did not suggest that Muslim-Americans should be required to wear a symbol that would visibly identify them as Muslims, such as a gold crescent. (On the other hand, he did not rule it out.) "

In addition to their many delusions, the Trumpets also have a bad case of "boiling frog syndrome."
He wants to distribute wealth and properties of green card holders to white working class people. He is better than Hitler.
Bad and sad for the world.

Good thing is that he has managed to unite most of the leaders in the world against this xenophobic politics ( Also in the US ) . Not much support for it.
Trading in the shadow of SM
One only needs to take a look a Mingarys' previous posts regarding the perceived threat of the spread of Islam to know HIS true position on the matter

Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Ill-b-back
One only needs to take a look a Mingarys' previous posts regarding the perceived threat of the spread of Islam to know HIS true position on the matter

Your Glorious Leader will cure the disease and kill the patient.
😖 so bad
Curious to know: Why aren't the muslim countries forthcoming in opening the doors to their refugee brothers?
Quoting jw1981
Curious to know: Why aren't the muslim countries forthcoming in opening the doors to their refugee brothers?
Curious that?
Quoting Mingary
I am shocked.
No Trump supporters ranting and raving about all this ?
Come on, please explain to us this genius strategy from your Dear Leader.
I think the basics of his strategy are sound, but initial implementation was poor.
Quoting Mingary
I am shocked.
No Trump supporters ranting and raving about all this ?
Come on, please explain to us this genius strategy from your Dear Leader.
No need to rant or rave, looks a great decision to me.

Trump is starting to get tough, just as he was elected to do.

And of course the laughs keep on coming as the King of Cucks (Chuck Schumer) starts to cry at a press conference. Shocking behaviour that from a politician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GnjQsqUIRE
Road To Wisdom? To err and err and err again, but less and less and less...
I guess, there is nothing to take...
Quoting jw1981
Curious to know: Why aren't the muslim countries forthcoming in opening the doors to their refugee brothers?
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Being Australian, he is not MY leader and I certainly don't think he is Glorious, and it seems neither does anyone else.
In fact, the ONLY person on these forums I see refering to Trump as "Glorious"

is Mingary...

Come with me if you want to live....
The "clouds of unreason" are getting bigger and darker.
And, they have found their lighting rod.
The world is preparing for war
You forgot the trumpets which constantly "explain" to us what their "Golden Daddy" actually wanted to say ...
Quoting Ill-b-back
Being Australian, he is not MY leader and I certainly don't think he is Glorious. In fact the ONLY person on these forums I see refering to Trump as "Glorious" is Mingary...
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
I haven't called him 'Glorious' yet. Certainly a Great Man but not yet glorious. Perhaps after the first 100 days, let's see.

Whatever the case I doubt there's one Trump voter that would change their minds about how they voted. But I would think there are countless non-Trump voters saying 'hold on, I'm beginning to like what's he's doing'...
Road To Wisdom? To err and err and err again, but less and less and less...
Quoting Mingary
The "clouds of unreason" are getting bigger and darker.
And, they have found their lighting rod.
The world is preparing for war
Or, Someone has had the gonads to stand up and say, we know where most of the terrorists, hate preachers and extremists are emanating from, let's do some proper checks before we invite them into our country
Quoting SickOfScam
You forgot the trumpets which constantly "explain" to us what their "Golden Daddy" actually wanted to say ...
With ridiculous "news" headlines such as that in the linked article, it's clear what he wants to say is simply twisted by the media anyway.

No?
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Devauxt
Or, Someone has had the gonads to stand up and say, we know where most of the terrorists, hate preachers and extremists are emanating from, let's do some proper checks before we invite them into our country
Oh no that would be racist, extreme, fascism...

Lol....

European terrorist attacks are a classic example of the results of a free for all policy...
Come with me if you want to live....
... or let's bomb Iran and send five million more refugees to Europe....

Quoting Mingary
The "clouds of unreason" are getting bigger and darker.
And, they have found their lighting rod.
The world is preparing for war
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
And people speak like databases are a NEW,Extreme measure lol...

Please....
Come with me if you want to live....
Rats from "Tower" must make their crumbs - meaning they "still explaining"....
Quoting Ill-b-back
With ridiculous "news" headlines such as that in the linked article, it's clear what he wants to say is simply twisted by the media anyway.
No?
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
Rats from "Tower" must make their crumbs - meaning they "still explaining"....
I rarely understand you and now is no exception...
Come with me if you want to live....
  • Comment #37
  • Edited 4:48am Jan 30, 2017 3:50am | Edited 4:48am
Quoting Mingary
I am shocked.
No Trump supporters ranting and raving about all this ?
Come on, please explain to us this genius strategy from your Dear Leader.

Mingary said here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7980291&highlight=muslim#post7980291
"Yes "fed up", as in massive deportation of all muslim extremists from the civilized democratic world back to the stone age regions of the earth where they belong.
Where they can lop off as many heads and beat as many women as they wish.
Many muslims are now heavily practicing taqiyya when asked about this event, when actually what they are doing is this: Koran 9:29: Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah"
Ill-be-back don't forget that "Golden Daddy" has hundreds of rats in"Tower" and they constantly bombard forums and take care that we all are "good" informed
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Verv, that's a CLASSIC!

Mingary, it's spelled like this -

B-U-S-T-E-D
Road To Wisdom? To err and err and err again, but less and less and less...
Quoting Mingary
And later they come for you ....
YEH RIGHT , and guess what
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
where were all these protesters when in 2009 Obama banned refugees from Iraq from entering the country for a period of 6 months

"As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131

Its the hypocrisy that pisses me off.



Quoting Calculus
Verv, that's a CLASSIC!

Mingary, it's spelled like this -

B-U-S-T-E-D
well if you are going to sling mud, expect others to dig up dirt.
Quoting Calculus
Verv, that's a CLASSIC!

Mingary, it's spelled like this -

B-U-S-T-E-D
ROFL
"who had heroically helped U.S. forces" - Heroes like Vang Pao
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
"who had heroically helped U.S. forces" - Heroes like Vang Pao
Your cryptic English is once again incomprehensible
Quoting SickOfScam
Ill-be-back don't forget that "Golden Daddy" has hundreds of rats in"Tower" and they constantly bombard forums and take care that we all are "good" informed
No, it's clearly the media rats that bombard these forums with spectacular headlines they obviously pull from their arses that ensure we are all "well" informed....
Come with me if you want to live....
....the CIA and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) supplied the region’s opium and heroin dealers with arms, ammunition, transportation of food supplies, buildings and “humanitarian aid”, in exchange for mercenary forces or political leverage. These dealers included the Kuomintang (KMT or Nationalist Chinese) on the Chinese border, Hmong tribesmen in Laos led by narcotics trafficker ----> Vang Pao...
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Vang emigrated to the United States in 1975...... for "some" refugees there are always places
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
....the CIA and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) supplied the region’s opium and heroin dealers with arms, ammunition, transportation of food supplies, buildings and “humanitarian aid”, in exchange for mercenary forces or political leverage. These dealers included the Kuomintang (KMT or Nationalist Chinese) on the Chinese border, Hmong tribesmen in Laos led by narcotics trafficker ----> Vang Pao...
Thanks for the History lesson, but what is the message you are trying to communicate? None of us posses the skills of a clairvoyant or psychic
Quoting SickOfScam
Vang emigrated to the United States in 1975...... for "some" refugees there are always places
7 countries have been targeted by the Trump Ban.
None of which were involved in 9/11.. and whos citizens have had little or no aprticipation in terror attacks since 2001.
None of which Trump business enterprises have any investment. (4)

Why no ban on Saudia Arabia/Pakistan/Egypt/Gulf States?
Everyone with the faintest familiarity with the subject knows that this is the reality.
Its is factions in these countries that are financing the terrorists

Of about 400 individuals charged with or credibly involved in jihad-inspired activity in the U.S. since 9/11, just under half (197) were U.S.-born citizens, according to research by the nonpartisan think tank New America Foundation. An additional 82 were naturalized citizens, and 44 were permanent residents.

I just dont understand such disjointed policy decisions.
The Global Terrorism Index

https://www.screencast.com/t/3MoH8LkwsrFO
Stick to the point....
NO REDIRECTION

Of about 400 individuals charged with or credibly involved in jihad-inspired activity in the U.S. since 9/11, just under half (197) were U.S.-born citizens, according to research by the nonpartisan think tank New America Foundation. An additional 82 were naturalized citizens, and 44 were permanent residents.

I just dont understand such disjointed policy decisions.
Quoting Devauxt
The Global Terrorism Index

https://www.screencast.com/t/3MoH8LkwsrFO
DT forgot India please send a mail, dangerous people.
Trump can see what is happening in Europe and doesn't want any of that either. Merkel has allowed terrorists, hate-preachers, rapists, paedophiles into Europe in the guise of immigrants and refugees which Trump can see and recognise on a daily basis.

Why would he not want to stop this sort of detritus entering the USA? It is right and proper that he takes a stance and implements serious vetting from this region.

He may not have done it in the best way, but he unafraid of addressing the real issues
Quoting barkie
DT forgot India please send a mail, dangerous people.
Better records in India, so better background checks can be made
Wang Pao was also one of those "who had heroically helped U.S. forces"(verv), but such "heroes" usually find their way to the USA.
As an "experienced general", he quietly sold "Asian fast food" later in the USA.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting Mingary
Please tell me this is a hoax.
Fake News.
Quoting SickOfScam
Wang Pao was also one of those "who had heroically helped U.S. forces"(verv), but such "heroes" usually find their way to the USA.
As an "experienced general,"later he quietly sold "Asian fast food" in the USA.
Still clueless as to the point you are trying to make. Get some help
It's way too much to ask from the trump enthusiasts to be Anti-Islamism and Anti-Bullshit at the same time.
Devauxt between you and me are obviously decades - there is no help.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
Devauxt between you and me are obviously decades - there is no help.
I am sure that you are trying to post some sort of insult. Convert it into intelligible English and at least let everyone enjoy it, not just you.
Back to the back of the queue, you Trump haters.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928
The world's biggest criminals enjoy US protection, on the other hand they accuse poor refugees on the road (fault USA too) for "terrorism".

Quoting cliffedwards
Stick to the point.... NO REDIRECTION

Of about 400 individuals charged with or credibly involved in jihad-inspired activity in the U.S. since 9/11, just under half (197) were U.S.-born citizens, according to research by the nonpartisan think tank New America Foundation. An additional 82 were naturalized citizens, and 44 were permanent residents.
I just dont understand such disjointed policy decisions.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
On that basis... can one say ..
What a pity then that the UK government, didnt take a similar sanction against Irish people following the IRAs 1984 attempt to assassinate Maggie Thatcher and half the UK government in Brighton?
Quoting Mingary
It's way too much to ask from the trump enthusiasts to be Anti-Islamism and Anti-Bullshit at the same time.
On the contrary, it's not too much to ask at all.
In fact, a number of us have pointed out, posted and commented on YOUR version of extreme anti Islam "bullshit" measures right here on this forum.
I'll have to take you off ignore, the material is just too much fun.
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting barkie
Back to the back of the queue, you Trump haters.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Over a MILLION in just a weekend?
At that rate ..be 2+ million by end of week.

Maybe we should have a referendum?

LoL
Quoting IGNORED
I am sure that you are trying to post some sort of insult. Convert it into intelligible English and at least let everyone enjoy it, not just you.
@IGNORED.. I note you continue your little tactic of making fun of and abusing contributors with less English competence than your Irish (CBS) education provided to you?
I would think that Ireland is well rid of you. Though why my country England/UK should have to entertain you masquerading as one of US REAL Brits, , is beyond me.
Quoting barkie
Back to the back of the queue, you Trump haters.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928
Signed
Quoting verv
Signed
How does that work since you are a declared US resident trader .
I really like our rabbits ...

Quoting cliffedwards
@IGNORED.. I note you continue your little tactic of making fun of and abusing contributors with less English competence than your Irish (CBS) education provided to you?
I would think that Ireland is well rid of you. Though why my country England/UK should have to entertain you masquerading as one of US REAL Brits, , is beyond me.
Quoting cliffedwards
How does that work since you are a declared US resident trader .
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Remember Trump lovers, on eBay you can get THE greatest photo of the year 2016: Trump + Farage all grins and giving the thumbs up. Cost in the UK is about £6.

I've got mine, placed it in a nice frame and it's proudly hanging on my wall.

Every time I look at it, it brings a smile to my face.
Road To Wisdom? To err and err and err again, but less and less and less...
  • Comment #71
  • Edited 7:48am Jan 30, 2017 6:52am | Edited 7:48am
OK Devauxt, I'll try. So, if you were born in Afghanistan, your task would be to collect the camel dung around the desert.
But you're lucky you're born Irishman - so you can "teach" us Brexit and "you-understandable English."


Quoting Devauxt
I am sure that you are trying to post some sort of insult. Convert it into intelligible English and at least let everyone enjoy it, not just you.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
I really like our rabbits ...
Thanks your comment..
BUT Im not taking this forward on the basis that you are right or wrong.. or that I agree with any of your opinions.
Im bringing it forward because I HATE BULLSHIT.
I hate MOB Rule.
And I HATE SCAM ARTISTS.. and Masqueraders.
Ive unmasked one here.. and would like to unmask more.

FF created a great site for retail traders to exchange views and systems.
The News Channel forum here however has become a playground for slogan touting, propaganda projecting people who have in many cases made little no contribution or shown any interest in the trading forums on the FF site.

Ive been subscriber here for over 10 years.
What I see here is unedifying.
I think its Time for FF to clean the swamp.
  • Comment #73
  • Edited 7:56am Jan 30, 2017 7:12am | Edited 7:56am
Same here. There are some things where we disagree.
BTW there are also "members" who have thousands of posts and none of them are related to trading.
Quoting cliffedwards
FF created a great site for retail traders to exchange views and systems.
The News Channel forum here however has become a playground for slogan touting, propaganda projecting people who have in many cases made little no contribution or shown any interest in the trading forums on the FF site.

Ive been subscriber here for over 10 years.
What I see here is unedifying.
I think its Time for FF to clean the swamp.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting cliffedwards
How does that work since you are a declared US resident trader .
Declared by whom, my profile? Do you also think my real name is verv?

I take my personal anonymity very seriously, some of that includes deliberate misdirection in case there is anyone snooping.
Quoting verv
Declared by whom, my profile? Do you also think my real name is verv? I take my personal anonymity very seriously, some of that includes deliberate misdirection in case there is anyone snooping.
I dont give a flying fkuc who you are mate..
But you are saying you NOT resident in the USA?
NOT a US citizen? Not an American?
Quoting cliffedwards
I dont give a flying fkuc who you are mate..
But you are saying you NOT resident in the USA?
NOT a US citizen? Not an American?
...clearly the ambiguity is exactly what I'm after ;-)
Quoting cliffedwards
Thanks your comment..
BUT Im not taking this forward on the basis that you are right or wrong.. or that I agree with any of your opinions.
Im bringing it forward because I HATE BULLSHIT.
I hate MOB Rule.
And I HATE SCAM ARTISTS.. and Masqueraders.
Ive unmasked one here.. and would like to unmask more.

FF created a great site for retail traders to exchange views and systems.
The News Channel forum here however has become a playground for slogan touting, propaganda projecting people who have in many cases made little no contribution or...
That probably is the only way you could limit opinion to the one that matches your.

You refer to others as Masqueraders, yet you are guilty of the same, pretending to want the debate about Brexit and claiming to be unbiased in your view and as we all know, that was an untruth.

But in good old EU style, when cliffedwards does not get the answers he wants to kill the debate "I think its Time for FF to clean the swamp"
America started a war against so called extremisms in Middle east and other Muslim countries now USA got an extremist/racist president themselves. I really feel bad for liberal and innocent Americans....
Quoting Ill-b-back
On the contrary, it's not too much to ask at all.
In fact, a number of us have pointed out, posted and commented on YOUR version of extreme anti Islam "bullshit" measures right here on this forum.
I'll have to take you off ignore, the material is just too much fun.
"Number of us"?
Is this some sort of conspiracy ?
Names please ...
Quoting Devauxt
"I think its Time for FF to clean the swamp"
a self proclaimed toll wants to clean the swamp some people really are bozozs
Quoting JaleesHacker
America started a war against so called extremisms in Middle east and other Muslim countries now USA got an extremist/racist president themselves. I really feel bad for liberal and innocent Americans....
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"

Trump may have gone about it like a "bull in a china shop", but other than that, he is doing what he promised. The fluffy liberals have achieved nothing and done nothing for years
W/o reading all the posts so far I say it is a start. For those shocked at the ban you should research the history of bans on immigration to the US. Not one of the 6.7 billion non American citizens on the planet has the right to enter uninvited or to stay longer than allowed. Same as a guest to your house. For each ban it has been for what seemed good reason at the time. It is not rational to invite 10 in when there is a history of some of the previous 10 being enemies and a danger to the citizens. I would go further than Trump has. Just noticing the post above which shows a lack of knowledge of both present and historical events. Those liberal Americans are also protected by the immigration ban. About time we have a pro America president. Every nation should have a leader looking out for them first.
Quoting Mingary
"Number of us"?
Is this some sort of conspiracy ?
Names please ...

Oh yes @mingery.. lest lance this TOXIC BOIL!
I sure as hell dont agree with all you post mate..
But I respect your opinions.
I respect your depth of thinking that shows you an educated man.
When you are at your most controversial.. and I most disagree, I can still see the philosophical under -pinning to even your most apparently daft posts.
I cannot extend that respect to many others here.
Either when I agree or disagree with their sentiments.

The problem here, as in many aspect of business.. was summed up by Mark Twains advise over 100 years ago..

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” .... and theres always the danger that "onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
" fluffy liberals have achieved nothing and done nothing for years"

Happily for them DT has now GUARANTEED that their wildest dreams will now come true.
By overstepping so spectacularly he has triggered exactly the indignation and kickback that their agenda failed to energise for years.

The Game is Chess. Not Snap.
Could you please define "Triumph of Evil" and "Good Men Do Nothing"? Something that can not be used by all f**king radicals of this world.

Quoting Devauxt
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
Could you please define "Evil" and "Good Men Do Nothing"?Something that can be used by all f**king radicals of this world.
Evil = Anything that the AngloIrish Branch of the Neo- Nazsty party doesnt agree with..
Good Men.. The boys in the Black/Brown Shirts.
Quoting cliffedwards
" fluffy liberals have achieved nothing and done nothing for years"

Happily for them DT has now GUARANTEED that their wildest dreams will now come true.
By overstepping so spectacularly he has triggered exactly the indignation and kickback that their agenda failed to energise for years.

The Game is Chess. Not Snap.
And to play the game of Chess you have to move the pieces, forfeit a few key players and pawns in order to win. Watching to board won't get the game played. You should stick to Snap
[quote=Devauxt;9497962]And to play the game of Chess you have to move the pieces, forfeit a few key players and pawns in order to win..../quote]

Forfeiting key players and pawns arent your problem Mate..
Its Forfeiting INTEGRITY for Ideology.
Loyalty and pride in your truely great country of origin to interference in the affairs of my country.
[quote=cliffedwards;9498036]
Quoting Devauxt
And to play the game of Chess you have to move the pieces, forfeit a few key players and pawns in order to win..../quote]

Forfeiting key players and pawns arent your problem Mate..
Its Forfeiting INTEGRITY for Ideology.
I have never know the keeping of an election promise to represent "Forfeiting INTEGRITY"

Trump said he was going to implement extreme vetting and that was one of his key promises in the election campaign. He may have gone about it like a "Bull in a China Shop", but the policy is as promised
It comes not only from these idiots! I mean, it's funny that all the f*cking radicals (Islamic, Orthodox, Erdogan, nazis, populists...) using the exact same rhetoric to cause chaos - all over the world.
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" - what a piece of BS.

Quoting cliffedwards
Evil = Anything that the AngloIrish Branch of the Neo- Nazsty party doesnt agree with..
Good Men.. The boys in the Black/Brown Shirts.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
It comes not only from these idiots! I mean, it's funny that all the f*cking radicals (Islamic, Orthodox, Erdogan ...) using the exact same rhetoric to cause chaos - all over the world.
A little EU education for the dim of mind

Walter Funk
Hans Josef Globke
Paul Henri Spaak
Prince Bernhard
Theodor Heuss
Kurt Kiesinger
Walter Hallstein
Alfred Toepfer
Alcide De Gasperi

What have they all in common? They were all founding fathers of the EU

And a little less know interesting fact, all were Nazi, SS, Fasicist members or collaborators,

Careful where you use you "Brown Shirt" sh1t3. It is closer to home than you realise
Even such an "expert" as you should know that the EU is thinking copy of ERT - which only a few EU politicians want to admit.

Quoting Devauxt
A little EU education...
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
Even such an "expert" as you should know that the EU is thinking copy of ERT - which only a few EU politicians want to admit.
When you get time, please translate into English
Quoting jw1981
Curious to know: Why aren't the muslim countries forthcoming in opening the doors to their refugee brothers?
Good question

Starting with Saudi Arabia

For most people religion is just a cover
  • Comment #95
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:02am Jan 30, 2017 10:02am
[quote=Devauxt;9498117]
Quoting cliffedwards

I have never know the keeping of an election promise to represent "Forfeiting INTEGRITY"

Trump said he was going to implement extreme vetting and that was one of his key promises in the election campaign. He may have gone about it like a "Bull in a China Shop", but the policy is as promised
He didn't promise to be a bull in China Shop even though he conducted his campaign like one. I guess the optimist among us was thinking otherwise.

He seem hell bent on keeping some dumb Campaign promises even if those promises get in the way of his oath to protect the constitution!

Keep going this way and he will be nixed faster than Nixon.
  • Comment #96
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:04am Jan 30, 2017 10:04am
Quoting Mingary
"Number of us"?
Is this some sort of conspiracy ?
Names please ...
You can read the names for yourself, they are listed above.

Ok here, I will help you out.

Ill-b-back , Verv, Calculus, Devauxt

Not sure why I had to point them out when it's all so clear above, but there you go.
Come with me if you want to live....
  • Comment #97
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:08am Jan 30, 2017 10:08am
Devauxt if you don't know what is ERT, then you have no idea about the EU.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
  • Comment #98
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:10am Jan 30, 2017 10:10am
Quoting cliffedwards
Over a MILLION in just a weekend?
At that rate ..be 2+ million by end of week.

Maybe we should have a referendum?

LoL
Smart.. and you want a good trade deal with USA? At this rate you will be put on the banned list and locked out of both EU and American markets. He has the nuke codes now as well. I wouldn't get him angry his psycho.
  • Comment #99
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:14am Jan 30, 2017 10:14am
Quoting SickOfScam
Devauxt if you don't know what is ERT, then you have no idea about the EU.
Never came across it
Quoting Devauxt
When you get time, please translate into English
For me the question would be "Why are they not condemned for refusing refuges like everyone else is"....?
Quoting mrhigurashi
For me the question would be "Why are they not condemned for refusing refuges like everyone else is"....?
Everyone is afraid of the "world leader"

This beast will cripple the economy of any who dear question it....Just ask Iran
Quoting Pip-Miner
Smart.. and you want a good trade deal with USA? At this rate you will be put on the banned list and locked out of both EU and American markets. He has the nuke codes now as well. I wouldn't get him angry his psycho.
No.. I want to continue the successful and profitable trade and customs union with our largest and nearest market.. the EU 27.
Not an "America First" .. BendOver quicky from someone you describe so un-flatteringly?
Quoting SickOfScam
Devauxt if you don't know what is ERT, then you have no idea about the EU.
We ALL know that.
Hasnt stopped his toxic narrative though.
Looks like the Orange Fool is (for the time being) content with poking the hornet's nest, not making proper steps to eradicate extremism within U.S.

You wanted a mediaeval king- He hasn't disappointed so far.
Quoting UnBearybull
Looks like the Orange Fool is (for the time being) content with poking the hornet's nest, not making proper steps to eradicate extremism within U.S.

You wanted a mediaeval king- He hasn't disappointed so far.
Exactly

The shortest route to achieve this is just to resign the job!
Quoting cliffedwards
No.. I want to continue the successful and profitable trade and customs union with our largest and nearest market.. the EU 27.
Not an "America First" .. BendOver quicky from someone you describe so un-flatteringly?
Successful and profitable trade and customs union with our largest and nearest market.. the EU 27 but not at the price of being ruled by the EU. The electorate of the UK have never voted for that, even thought that is exactly what was promised https://www.screencast.com/t/FOLhhDms
[quote=IGNORED;9499074]Successful and profitable trade and customs union with our largest and nearest market.. the EU 27 but not at the price of being ruled by the EU. The electorate of the UK have never voted for that, even thought that is exactly what was promised.
Doesnt matter what MY country voted for..
Thats whats on offer.
And NOTHING ELSE.
I lll be back has done his aborigine hunting trip. even kangaroos wont crap on his keyboard, do i need to say ------------------
[quote=cliffedwards;9499104]
Quoting IGNORED
Successful and profitable trade and customs union with our largest and nearest market.. the EU 27 but not at the price of being ruled by the EU. The electorate of the UK have never voted for that, even thought that is exactly what was promised.
Doesnt matter what MY country voted for..
Thats whats on offer.
And NOTHING ELSE.
The difference between you and me is that I think that the UK should be ruled by the UK and UK laws should be set and defined by the UK. You seem happy the be ruled by the Unelected in the EU.

As to what is eventually negotiated, neither of us know
  • Comment #110
  • Edited 11:57am Jan 30, 2017 11:35am | Edited 11:57am
Quoting IGNORED
Successful and profitable trade and customs union with our largest and nearest market.. the EU 27 but not at the price of being ruled by the EU. The electorate of the UK have never voted for that, even thought that is exactly what was promised https://www.screencast.com/t/FOLhhDms
Doesnt matter what MY country voted for, or was promised, or expected....
Thats whats on offer.
Its WAY beyond that.
We had a deal, with the other 27 nations.
That lead to economic prosperity and success
We have opted OUT.
And its left Our Prime Minister arselicking a self declared "America First" protectionist President desperate for a symbolic trade deal with US to justify and pretend that its all OK. Demeaning and insulting to the UK.
Quoting cliffedwards
Doesnt matter what MY country voted for, or was promised, or expected....
Thats whats on offer.
Its WAY beyond that.
We had a deal. That lead to economic prosperity and success
We have opted OUT.
And its left Our Prime Minister arselicking a self declared "America First" protectionist President desperate for a symbolic trade deal with US to justify and pretend that its all OK. Demeaning and insulting to the UK.
When it was the EEC it was not so bad, but the UK electorate never voted for Political integration under the Lisbon Treaty. And as for arselicking, every PM prior to the current one and with the exception of Thatcher has been engaged in that practice with the leaders of the EU and EEC. The EU is the biggest protectionist organisation in history. You are so full of EU twaddle
Quoting IGNORED
The EU is the biggest protectionist organisation in history.
Well ..if so.. then the UKs secession at a time that Trumps America appears be heading in a deeply (America First) protectionist direction .. is particularly badly timed?
Quoting cliffedwards
7 countries have been targeted by the Trump Ban.
None of which were involved in 9/11.. and whos citizens have had little or no aprticipation in terror attacks since 2001.
None of which Trump business enterprises have any investment. (4)

Why no ban on Saudia Arabia/Pakistan/Egypt/Gulf States?
Everyone with the faintest familiarity with the subject knows that this is the reality.
Its is factions in these countries that are financing the terrorists

Of about 400 individuals charged with or credibly involved in jihad-inspired activity in the...
You must be living in a bubble....
Please google Syria Iraq Muslim terrorism to get a clue specially so called "rebels"
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
Gentlemen, lets give Trump a chance! It is still too early to crucify him.
Funny how liberal left feminists embrace Islam in fact one of the idiots actually called Muslim prayer in Women's march rally totally oblivious of Muslim suppression of women,child marriages,genital mutilations,sub human treatment of even suspicion of adulatory and often raped without any punishment and list goes on and on and these morons go to marches and promote this from their comfy western homes.
Amazing world we live in where there is little logic left.Perhaps these idiots should march protecting women from Islam!!!
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
Quoting Davit
Funny how liberal left feminists embrace Islam in fact one of the idiots actually called Muslim prayer in Women's march rally totally oblivious of Muslim suppression of women,child marriages,genital mutilations,sub human treatment of even suspicion of adulatory and often raped without any punishment and list goes on and on and these morons go to marches and promote this from their comfy western homes.
Amazing world we live in where there is little logic left.Perhaps these idiots should march protecting women from Islam!!!
Careful, the truth is not a common or well accepted currency in here
Quoting Davit
Funny how liberal left feminists embrace Islam in fact one of the idiots actually called Muslim prayer in Women's march rally totally oblivious of Muslim suppression of women,child marriages,genital mutilations,sub human treatment of even suspicion of adulatory and often raped without any punishment and list goes on and on and these morons go to marches and promote this from their comfy western homes.
Amazing world we live in where there is little logic left.Perhaps these idiots should march protecting women from Islam!!!
I think we have reached a turning point in the West were the useful idiots/extremely loud minority are being called out on their nonsense and the main stream media have been seen for what they are which is basically liars.
Quoting Devauxt
Careful, the truth is not a common or well accepted currency in here
Your own truth belongs to you and no one else.
Quoting DonFF
Your own truth belongs to you and no one else.
Wrong there are objective truths called facts!
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
Quoting Ross88
I think we have reached a turning point in the West were the useful idiots/extremely loud minority are being called out on their nonsense and the main stream media have been seen for what they are which is basically liars.
The world has always been run on deception.

The whole systems starting with the education system is based on deception!

Clearly deceived people can only design a system of deceptions.
Quoting cliffedwards
Well ..if so.. then the UKs secession at a time that Trumps America appears be heading in a deeply (America First) protectionist direction .. is particularly badly timed?
It seems Trump is happy to do a deal with the UK. I don't think has a high opinion of the EU (I'm sure the feeling is mutual)

But on doing a deal with the USA, the UK will

- not have US courts defining our laws
- not be subject to US laws in our own country
- not be told by the US who we can trade with
- not have to pay £350m per year trading club membership
- not be told by the US who we can and cannot eject from the country
- not be told by the US who can and cannot come to our country

To name but a few
Quoting DonFF
The world has always been run on deception.

The whole systems starting with the education system is based on deception!

Clearly deceived people can only design a system of deceptions.
this make's no sense am sorry donFF but what are you talking about???
Quoting Ross88
this make's no sense am sorry donFF but what are you talking about???
I dont expect you to make sense of it.

We are on two different page here.

I am dealing in universal laws while your scope is limited to what you have been taught
Quoting Davit
Wrong there are objective truths called facts!
maybe their is some truth in this last week on here some guy was taking rubbish so I gave he a link in a friendly way that prove he was wrong instead of reading the link which would take less than 2 minutes he refused just to deliberately keep his head in the sand
Quoting JaleesHacker
America started a war against so called extremisms in Middle east and other Muslim countries now USA got an extremist/racist president themselves. I really feel bad for liberal and innocent Americans....
You must be delusional.Can you demonstrate how Trump is racist.By the way Islam is not a race! On Immigration? Yes we want to have illegal immigration to stop! Is that racism? Tell me idiot how is Trump a racist!We literally have thousands of educated people waiting legally to immigrate to US but we get overrun by illegals crossing the border and that must be stopped! You can't have a country without borders.
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
Quoting Davit
Wrong there are objective truths called facts!
As far as you know LOL

Facts is only a word...The victors of wars write the history books some of the sources we are taught to be classified as facts -thats a fake word!

I am stating my own truth not seeking support of anyone in my comments!

Only the words of the Creator of all is true
Quoting DonFF
I dont expect you to make sense of it.

We are on two different page here.

I am dealing in universal laws while your scope is limited to what you have been taught
Q,I dont expect you to make sense of it.
than why say it I don't tell me dog about forex for the reason that he would not understand me

Q,We are on two different page here.
yes am based in reality that has facts you are based in a non reality were (Your own truth belongs to you and no one else)

Q,I am dealing in universal laws while your scope is limited to what you have been taught
I have seen you deliberately ignore facts that contradict your original conclusion tell me how dose it feel to be dealing in universal laws it must be strong stuff just don't get caught
Quoting DonFF
As far as you know LOL

Only the words of the Creator of all is true
dropping mad knowledge bombs again but seriously layoff the universal laws
  • Comment #129
  • Edited 1:14pm Jan 30, 2017 12:57pm | Edited 1:14pm
Quoting Devauxt
It seems Trump is happy to do a deal with the UK. I don't think has a high opinion of the EU (I'm sure the feeling is mutual)
But on doing a deal with the USA, the UK will

1. - not have US courts defining our laws..
yes you will.. you clearly have no idea on the small print in trade contracts.(applicable law)
2. - not be subject to US laws in our own country .. yes you already do in many commercial arrangements. .. and any financial issues certainly will allow US regulatory and legal oversight.
3 - not be told by the US who we can trade with.. nobody tells you that now./Doh!
4. - not have to pay £350m per year trading club membership..
Oh yes the 350million PER WEEK that going to the NHS? ROFL..
5. - not be told by the US who we can and cannot eject from the country/
not be told by the US who can and cannot come to our country
Quite right.. No obligation to the European Convention on Human Rights, drafted 1953, largely by British Legal advisers and the only convention ENFORCEABLE in law against excesses perpetrated by the State. (UNCHR is not) Obligatory for not just EU members but for ALL members of the Council of Europe member states.

All Good..
Now BEND-OVER.. here comes Donald!! with the Art of the Deal!!!
Free copy with every FTA. LoL

HOW NAIVE ARE YOU MAN?
Quoting Davit
Funny how liberal left feminists embrace Islam in fact one of the idiots actually called Muslim prayer in Women's march rally totally oblivious of Muslim suppression of women,child marriages,genital mutilations,sub human treatment of even suspicion of adulatory and often raped without any punishment and list goes on and on and these morons go to marches and promote this from their comfy western homes.
Amazing world we live in where there is little logic left.Perhaps these idiots should march protecting women from Islam!!!
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
Albert Einstein

Lindsay Lohan has converted to Islam. Try oppressing her, she will kick your bankrupt brain into shape.
Quoting goldfinger
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
Albert Einstein

Lindsay Lohan has converted to Islam. Try oppressing her, she will kick your bankrupt brain into shape.
You are not even worthy of response! Idiocy what you posted is self evident.
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
Quoting Davit
You are not even worthy of response! Idiocy what you posted is self evident.
The world is run by money and money is almost always at the heart of most of our issues.
If there was a true, truthful media, president ELECT Trump would be a American hero.

But we don't - we have fake news, and week minded people only hear what they have been propagandized with, and want to hear. The most ironic thing about this is, Most of you anti Trump people are well meaning but completely misinformed. But as they say - good intensions is a road paved to hell.....
Live today like theres no tomorrow-- Prioritize like you will die today
some people just need a high- five in the head with a chair. he he he
Quoting cliffedwards
But on doing a deal with the USA, the UK will

1. - not have US courts defining our laws..
yes you will.. you clearly have no idea on the small print in trade contracts.(applicable law)
2. - not be subject to US laws in our own country .. yes you already do in many commercial arrangements. .. and any financial issues certainly will allow US regulatory and legal oversight.
3 - not be told by the US who we can trade with.. nobody tells you that now./Doh!
4. - not have to pay £350m per year trading club membership..
Oh yes the 350million PER...
If the UK could trade with anyone we like and negotiate a trade deal with anyone we like, we would be negotiating a trade deal right now with the USA. The EU prevents this.

European human rights judges have blocked more than 900 attempts by Britain to deport foreign criminals and terror suspects in recent years. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9239417/European-Court-of-Human-Rights-blocks-more-deportations-from-UK-than-any-other-country.html

The US will not define the UK civil laws, the EU does
The UK will not be subject to US civil laws in our own country

Commercial law is different in that it is dependant on the jurisdiction of the contract, as stated in the contract
Quoting iamsovereign
If there was a true, truthful media, president ELECT Trump would be a American hero.

But we don't - we have fake news, and week minded people only hear what they have been propagandized with, and want to hear. The most ironic thing about this is, Most of you anti Trump people are well meaning but completely misinformed. But as they say - good intensions is a road paved to hell.....
Thats the trouble with Trump..
In some ways he IS an American Hero..
IMHO.. Problem is that hes also totally naive.. he actually thinks he can run a Nation State in the 21st century like a Hotel chain. there are levels of complications that he has NO idea about.. He could learn, hes smart.. but with his fragile personality and his arrogance he seems psychologically ill-equipped to meet that challenge.
Quoting Devauxt
If the UK could trade with anyone we like and negotiate a trade deal with anyone we like, we would be negotiating a trade deal right now with the USA. The EU prevents this.

European human rights judges have blocked more than 900 attempts by Britain to deport foreign criminals and terror suspects in recent years. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-country.html

The US will not define the UK civil laws the EU does
The UK will not...
Mate America is not our circus and dt is not our monkey.
We voted to get out of EU but master race is not happy about it so it aint happening.
Quoting iamsovereign
If there was a true, truthful media, president ELECT Trump would be a American hero.

But we don't - we have fake news, and week minded people only hear what they have been propagandized with, and want to hear. The most ironic thing about this is, Most of you anti Trump people are well meaning but completely misinformed. But as they say - good intensions is a road paved to hell.....
We have seen a similar movie before called BushII its amazing that anyone else would be racing to the bottom to get ahead of BushII in snatching a recession from a strong economy and dragging the world back into the ditch.

Just ask the people who lost their homes and jobs if Bush was a hero. As if the ditch dug by bush wasnt deep enough. The current leader is walking blind into an even bigger ditch Just mark my words!

Trump intends to do this by:

1)Giving more tax cuts to the rich as bush did
2)Remove the commonsense regulations that ensured the recovery.
3)Must fight more wars since is redlines which are so easily imposed cannot be ignored without a war.
4)Trigger trade wars which will only reverse global trade
5)All at the same time while removing whatever little benefit there are in the healthcare system.

These are the same warning ignored by Bush who like yourself believe that conservative nonsense approach to the economy will lead to prosperity.

I guess you will also deny the Great depression 2006-8 happened.
Quoting IGNORED
European human rights judges have blocked more than 900 attempts by Britain to deport foreign criminals and terror suspects in recent years. [/url]
1. Under the Rule 39 powers of the European Court of Human Rights, judges can issue interim measures that are binding on nation states if they believe the applicant “faces a real risk of serious, irreversible harm if the measure is not applied”.
This prevents deportation going ahead until the case can be heard in detail.

2. The 900 figure you quote refers to multiple years. You quoted this figure in another thread, but when asked to define the timescale applicaple to the 900 figure.. you didnt respond.?? Whatever.. set against the 86,000 prison population of the UK..it hardly seems like a crisis figure?
Incidentally I see that The number of Rule 39 measures granted against Britain has fallen in recent years, from 527 in 2008 to 35 last year.
Quoting DonFF
I guess you will also deny the Great depression 2006-8 happened.
When are you going to realize that it is not the "Heads of States" that causes these problems. Yes there is going to be a depression 2018- 2019 start but its not going to be because of Trump and his policies. Unless he was around or they knew he was going to born back in the 1800's.
Quoting goldfinger
Mate America is not our circus and dt is not our monkey.
We voted to get out of EU but master race is not happy about it so it aint happening.
It IS HAPPENING.

Problem is not Brexit..
Its Whats Nextit?
  • Comment #142
  • Edited 2:22pm Jan 30, 2017 2:10pm | Edited 2:22pm
Quoting DonFF
We have seen a similar movie before called BushII its amazing that anyone else would be racing to the bottom to get ahead of BushII in snatching a recession from a strong economy and dragging the world back into the ditch.

Just ask the people who lost their homes and jobs if Bush was a hero. As if the ditch dug by bush wasnt deep enough. The current leader is walking blind into an even bigger ditch Just mark my words!

Trump intends to do this by:

1)Giving more tax cuts to the rich as bush did
2)Remove the commonsense regulations that ensured...

All you have done is prove my point---- thanks by the way!!!

Bush = bad. Obama = bad. I don't support bought off politicians and I don't fall into the paradigm of progressive or conservative --- this is the media bull that I wrote about.... we have someone that is real in office now--- and that is why the main stream media and Powers to be-- are sh1tting there pants..... You must look deeper and you will see, not just look.

we, America is under a false monetary system --- the Fed is not federal --- so yes we may be facing another depression and the media will make you week minds think it is Trumps fault........ the main stream media has your mind, Ha Ha Haaa

America will have to face the pain of this False Fed (private corp) system sooner or later.... you think that Obama saved us from the so call 2008 depression --- just more deception and it will only be worse from the past policies.

I bet you like to be spoon fed on how to trade forex----- Just like the media spoon feeds your week mind. Look deeper than what they feed you.
Live today like theres no tomorrow-- Prioritize like you will die today
Quoting goldfinger
I lll be back has done his aborigine hunting trip. even kangaroos wont crap on his keyboard, do i need to say ------------------
Been drinking have we...?
Come with me if you want to live....
  • Comment #144
  • Edited 3:27pm Jan 30, 2017 2:54pm | Edited 3:27pm
Quoting iamsovereign
All you have done is prove my point---- thanks by the way!!!

Bush = bad Obama = bad I don't support bought off politicians and I don't fall into the paradigm of progressive or conservative --- this is the media bull that I wrote about.... we have someone that is real in office now--- and that is why the main stream media and Powers to be-- are sh1tting there pants..... You must look deeper and you will see, not just look.

we, America is under a false monetary system --- the Fed is not federal --- so yes we may be facing another depression...

All Politicians are bought off...How is the world run otherwise.

Which is why I keep saying on these forums that our so called elected leaders dont really work for the people as the people believe. Ultimately the world is run by money and there is not many on the planet who will say they have enough.

How do you figure The Kennedys have such a hard time.

You better guess again if you seriously believe Trump will be able to do any differently. At least he is somewhat familiar with the real rulers of the world.

The real problem with Trump is not what he cant do but what he is doing to make the majority of the peoples lives miserable because of his limited one sided views.

This is where the Democrats with their multiplicity of views are way stronger than many of the Republican leadership for the last 4 or 5 decades. Democrats especially the likes of Obama is way more open minded than even his less admired and mean spirited so called Patriotic Americans with whom he learned a lot from about how nasty and vitriolic fellow human beings can be. How can Patriots who are hardly willing to sacrifice anything for the country be willing to hold back the development and recovery of the global economy for 8 years in the interest of blind ideology.

I am still bemused even ashamed that human beings could stoop to such low levels as the Republicans did for the last 8 years for the simple reason that someone look a little different than they do.

Well they have done enough to confirm that indeed this side of America (Those who are unwilling to accept the human family as it is rather than how their limited minds tell them)is and has been the Mother of South African for these decades.

Even more ridiculous to have people coming online to say they support the humans who conduct themselves in such base shameless way trolling on the international stage representing the weakest minded people among us.

Yes I will not deny anyone who is still unlearned enough to understand the value of a human life and what a human life really is. But I know it is the duty of leadership to encourage their followers to rise about petty nonsense that most have a difficulty overcoming.

These kind of base way of thinking must not be dressed up as conservatism but must be revealed for what it is. Heroic leadership requires leaders to step away from those who would persist in their belief that a human life is defined by their outward appearance.
Quoting Ill-b-back
Been drinking have we...?
I dont need a clique to determine what I write here. I take on forum bullies with my own independent arguments until they spill their true intent here and eventually get kicked off
Quoting Davit
Funny how liberal left feminists embrace Islam in fact one of the idiots actually called Muslim prayer in Women's march rally totally oblivious of Muslim suppression of women,child marriages,genital mutilations,sub human treatment of even suspicion of adulatory and often raped without any punishment and list goes on and on and these morons go to marches and promote this from their comfy western homes.
Amazing world we live in where there is little logic left.Perhaps these idiots should march protecting women from Islam!!!
These women should try to live in these countries before marching .
Charming characters who made it into Europe, really know how to treat women .
http://youtu.be/_qOdsKlPF4A
While he is at it he should ban religion altogether.
Quoting DonFF
I dont need a clique to determine what I write here. I take on forum bullies with my own independent arguments until they spill their true intent here and eventually get kicked off
His post was totally illegible, hence my comment.

What point are you trying to make as your interjection is out of left field
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Davit
Funny how liberal left feminists embrace Islam in fact one of the idiots actually called Muslim prayer in Women's march rally totally oblivious of Muslim suppression of women,child marriages,genital mutilations,sub human treatment of even suspicion of adulatory and often raped without any punishment and list goes on and on and these morons go to marches and promote this from their comfy western homes.
Amazing world we live in where there is little logic left.Perhaps these idiots should march protecting women from Islam!!!
Just finished reading The Muslim Brotherhood by Carrie Wickham, 2013. It's the history of the organization to that point with many interviews and quotes of members. What is clear is while they are as claimed moderates it is only in comparison to more radical groups. A longer timeline to the same goal does not help women and others. Let's see if this post stays.
Quoting Ill-b-back
His post was totally illegible, hence my comment.

What point are you trying to make as your interjection is out of left field
That my points are my own. I am not writing in support of anyone nor to please anyone.

I simply state my truth.
bleeding hearts will be the death of the world , I will not turn the other cheek anymore , enough is enough , stop immigration save jobs for AUSTALIANS and AMERICANS
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
Quoting DonFF
That my points are my own. I am not writing in support of anyone nor to please anyone.

I simply state my truth.
well that's wonderful, but why are you telling me this?

I'm sure we all like to do the same.

Are you suggesting if my views correspond to the views of others, that they are not mine??
Come with me if you want to live....
Australia has no proper uni so its obvious aussiland is a breeding ground for dickheads but America has Harvard------------------------------
Quoting goldfinger
Australia has no proper uni so its obvious aussiland is a breeding ground for dickheads but America has Harvard------------------------------
lol, you're starting to sound like sickofscam and make about as much sense.

Are you one and the same?

Will I now again be singled out for pointing out the obvious.....?
Come with me if you want to live....
Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
P. J. O'Rourke
All organized education is indoctrination. Harvard has its agenda same as every other university. Graduates become part of the alum cabal. Do they respect truth or justice or common sense? Not so much.
Protectionism and immigration ban is bad for business. Steve Jobs biological parents were immigrants and look at what Steve Jobs created-Apple.
You came here for the truth and let me unveil it for you
Quoting Pip-Miner
These women should try to live in these countries before marching .
Charming characters who made it into Europe, really know how to treat women .
http://youtu.be/_qOdsKlPF4A
Hi PM
Lots of information is out there and takes very little time to find out the truth.
Most liberal lefties choose to gloss over facts that does not fit their narrative of multiculturalism.
An Open Letter to Muslim Feminist Linda Sarsour
Let's talk about ISIS rape victims.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/259811/open-letter-muslim-feminist-linda-sarsour-danusha-v-goska
above just one of thousands.
regards
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
Quoting RondaRousey
Protectionism and immigration ban is bad for business. Steve Jobs biological parents were immigrants and look at what Steve Jobs created-Apple.
America is a nation of Immigrants.

The problem is that some seem to want to create artificial segregations between people. This is not by chance we live in a world where some kind of people (those who think in a predominantly "conservative" kind of way seem to think its easier to control people with a divide and conquer strategy.

They seem adamant about their truth, that all men are not created equal. Else why do they seem to think they must impose their crazy ideas on others and labelling people at the earliest opportunity with labels such as "Liberal and lefties".

Separatism is a function of extreme fear...so conservative types are therefore a fearful type. Frankly I dont have a problem with anyone who inclined to be open minded and others who are not. I know that as a species we are not complete. But some dont realize that we must continue to grow in unity with each other.

There is none in the human family who is happy being separate so this is the kind of realism that many are unable to get to grips with.
Quoting gat
All organized education is indoctrination. Harvard has its agenda same as every other university. Graduates become part of the alum cabal. Do they respect truth or justice or common sense? Not so much.
Agreed
Quoting DonFF
Everyone is afraid of the "world leader"

This beast will cripple the economy of any who dear question it....Just ask Iran
This reply has absolutely nothing to do with what i said. In fact most of your replies have nothing to do with what the person said....

So are you...
A. A Political fanatic.
B. A Religious Fanatic.
C. Just plain old crazy fanatic?

And remind me, who is the "World Leader"? Kim Jon Un?
Now, i permit you to answer with your regular dribble....
Quoting cliffedwards
Thanks your comment..
BUT Im not taking this forward on the basis that you are right or wrong.. or that I agree with any of your opinions.
Im bringing it forward because I HATE BULLSHIT.
I hate MOB Rule.
And I HATE SCAM ARTISTS.. and Masqueraders.
Ive unmasked one here.. and would like to unmask more.

FF created a great site for retail traders to exchange views and systems.
The News Channel forum here however has become a playground for slogan touting, propaganda projecting people who have in many cases made little no contribution or...
I am with you. It is FF policy that no political statements are allowed. They have been censoring such posts. They have the right to kick anyone off the forum for violating the rules. They may start to do that. Stick to trading. Go to twitter to abuse each other.
Quoting EventHorizon
I am with you. It is FF policy that no political statements are allowed. They have been censoring such posts. They have the right to kick anyone off the forum for violating the rules. They may start to do that. Stick to trading. Go to twitter to abuse each other.
When FF posts an immigration news which has nothing to do with trading then it is expected that conflicting views will be posted.If they want sanitized PC views then why even bother posting the news.
Lets be tolerable to other views and saying this as a conservative
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
Quoting Davit
When FF posts an immigration news which has nothing to do with trading then it is expected that conflicting views will be posted.If they want sanitized PC views then why even bother posting the news.
Lets be tolerable to other views and saying this as a conservative
No argument. I am just pointing out FF policies. I had some of my posts censored by FF for being political and was reminded about the terms and conditions. Email them with your grievance.
Quoting mrhigurashi
This reply has absolutely nothing to do with what i said. In fact most of your replies have nothing to do with what the person said....

So are you...
A. A Political fanatic.
B. A Religious Fanatic.
C. Just plain old crazy fanatic?

And remind me, who is the "World Leader"? Kim Jon Un?
Now, i permit you to answer with your regular dribble....
Clearly you are better off just to pinpoint what you dont understand either read it carefully again or humble yourself and ask properly.
Quoting DonFF
Clearly you are better off just to pinpoint what you dont understand either read it carefully again or humble yourself and ask properly.
I understand your a fruit loop with a personal agenda.

And furthermore, reading any dribble you write is not really worth my time. Sorry to disappoint you but you and what you have to say has no importance or relevance to myself.

But you seem to get your kicks from it so enjoy.
Quoting DonFF
We have seen a similar movie before called BushII its amazing that anyone else would be racing to the bottom to get ahead of BushII in snatching a recession from a strong economy and dragging the world back into the ditch.

Just ask the people who lost their homes and jobs if Bush was a hero. As if the ditch dug by bush wasnt deep enough. The current leader is walking blind into an even bigger ditch Just mark my words!

Trump intends to do this by:

1)Giving more tax cuts to the rich as bush did
2)Remove the commonsense regulations that ensured...

Technically a depression is a recession lasting longer than 2 years, so it would still be a recession, not a depression. otherwise agree with what your saying, the potus is going to lead us into another recession, hopefully not the great depression all the doom sayers are claiming..
Quoting DonFF
I dont need a clique to determine what I write here. I take on forum bullies with my own independent arguments until they spill their true intent here and eventually get kicked off
Quoting DonFF
All Politicians are bought off...How is the world run otherwise.

Which is why I keep saying on these forums that our so called elected leaders dont really work for the people as the people believe. Ultimately the world is run by money and there is not many on the planet who will say they have enough.

How do you figure The Kennedys have such a hard time.

You better guess again if you seriously believe Trump will be able to do any differently. At least he is somewhat familiar with the real rulers of the world.

The real problem with Trump...
I agreed with almost everything you said. Honestly a lot of people define "patriotism" as how much I will get??? maybe someone will ask what is it? something we can spread on a toast??
Anyway the only thing that bugs me is almost everybody criticize the last 8 years of government but seems they forget completely the years BEFORE that. Why????
God bless America... sorry wrong one.. God SAVE America.
Quoting DonFF
America is a nation of Immigrants.

The problem is that some seem to want to create artificial segregations between people. This is not by chance we live in a world where some kind of people (those who think in a predominantly "conservative" kind of way seem to think its easier to control people with a divide and conquer strategy.
What planet are you from? Don't tell me, I know. It's called planet Utopian. Wake up smell some coffee. Maybe you can realize your comment.

Trump is trying to do something or anything to fix immigration problem. I think.
I don't know how live in US can be wonderful with open immigration. But I know it's not that wonderful in Europe.
How's this for media B.S. trying incite something."Times columnist and author India Knight has called for the assassination of U.S. President, Donald J. Trump.
During a days-long invective against the newly inaugurated President on Twitter in which Knight called Mr. Trump a “moron,” “mad,” “needy,” and an “arse,” among other things, before telling him to “shut up,” she mused, “The assassination is taking such a long time”:

The assassination is taking such a long time.

— India Knight (@indiaknight) January 28, 2017

Knight’s attitude is directly in-line with the British media class, many of whom she has cheered on via Twitter over the last few days."
Quoting Sniper2000
How's this for media B.S. trying incite something."Times columnist and author India Knight has called for the assassination of U.S. President, Donald J. Trump.
where is the Jackal when you need him !
Trump shot himself in the foot and I could not be happier, but he also inmersed the country in a deep social and economic crisis and Putin could not be happier, he is doing a golden shower on trump right now, lol.
Trump really stamping his foot down. It'll backfire but the question is how much will IT backfire?
Quoting barkie
where is the Jackal when you need him !
I know very well that this was a tongue-in-cheek humorous remark.
If perhaps in bad taste. However I suggest you are careful here about posts, since even such obviously humorous allusions can and WILL be misused by Trump trolls to allege a wish for harm to the President. Which is against everything I know you stand for.
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Quoting Sniper2000
How's this for media B.S. trying incite something.
Yeah, but what else do you expect from ultra right Breitbart.com
Whatever she said she has removed the offending tweet and has apologized unreservedly (as she should)
"Right. I have deleted the offending tweet, which was a joke in very bad taste, and which I unreservedly apologise for."

Edit:
I don't recall teflon Trump apologizing after saying "2nd amendment people" could sort Hillary Clinton out during the election campaign!
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
FYI.
UK Government Petition.
to "Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom.."


The number of signatories has now risen to just under 1.7 Million at time of posting.

There will be without a doubt an attempt by subversives to pollute this poll. with the purpose of discrediting its validity. I understand from UK Gov IT sources that such attempts are being monitored, and will be used to identify sources of such interference in the democratic process with the purpose of prosecution.
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Quoting cliffedwards
FYI.
UK Government Petition.
to "Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom.."


The number of signatories has now risen to just under 1.7 Million at time of posting.

There will be without a doubt an attempt by subversives to pollute this poll. with the purpose of discrediting its validity. I understand from UK Gov IT sources that such attempts are being monitored, and will be used to identify sources of such interference in the democratic process with the purpose of prosecution.

There are >58 million who haven't signed that petition. There have also been other Trump petitions like this one:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003
- which has been rejected.

It's not like this hasn't been tried before.

I laughed when downing street said the petition was a "populist gesture" and would be counter productive. The irony of those shouting loudly about Brexit and Trump election being 'Mob rule' is not lost on Number 10.
Quoting frx_trader
What planet are you from? Don't tell me, I know. It's called planet Utopian. Wake up smell some coffee. Maybe you can realize your comment.

Trump is trying to do something or anything to fix immigration problem. I think.
You couldn't find a better way to finish your post; "I think".
That is gold because using your own words "the clown(that is on me) is trying to do something or anything to fix immigration problem" but you are not sure what he is trying to do right??
Today USA looks like a bus down hill driving by a blind one with a bunch of dumb asses helping.
Quoting blanca
Trump shot himself in the foot and I could not be happier, but he also inmersed the country in a deep social and economic crisis and Putin could not be happier, he is doing a golden shower on trump right now, lol.
Very well said. Lets wait because he is going to shoot the other foot.
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Quoting mmforexinfo
Today USA looks like a bus down hill driving by a blind one with a bunch of dumb asses helping.
I agree US could become a 3rd world country. Just like UK, Germany, Sweden etc. But not because of Trump.

There are too many blind people in US and Europe. That's why I try to wake them to see the reality. Wake up and smell some coffee. I hope it's not too late. And still early in the morning. Hopefully.
Mr Trump is now "Leader of the Free World". After 8 years of totally irresponsible Ponzi scheme economics, mass foreign wars, and pensions theft we should be welcoming him with open arms, how many more enemies do the Fascist, loser, remainders want the UK to have ?

Brexit and Mr Trumps election are a very clear signal to the anti free will , genocidal free loaders , you're time is past US & UK masses have had their fill of you're rubbish and May & Trump are just the fresh brooms needed.

Big Welcome Mr Trump
Quoting mmforexinfo
Today USA looks like a bus down hill driving by a blind one with a bunch of dumb asses helping.
Spot on, Bingo, Bull eye. or what ever. I cannot say it better myself. But not Trump. Maybe Clintons.
Quoting blanca
Trump shot himself in the foot and I could not be happier, but he also inmersed the country in a deep social and economic crisis and Putin could not be happier, he is doing a golden shower on trump right now, lol.
Agreed,
He will shoot himself in the foot permanently sooner or later. The question is how much damage will he do in the meantime.
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
Trump is Our Dear Leader of basket of rotten apples. Big Welcome D(ea)R Trump!

Quoting NewtonsCash
Really love the irony in your sentences.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting mrhigurashi
I understand your a fruit loop with a personal agenda.

And furthermore, reading any dribble you write is not really worth my time. Sorry to disappoint you but you and what you have to say has no importance or relevance to myself.

But you seem to get your kicks from it so enjoy.

Try figuring out why Russia has won round one and firmly in drivers seat before trying to figure me out!
Interesting that a temporary ban causes so much outrage , yet bombing the crap out of them berly causes a stir.
Quoting Pip-Miner
Interesting that a temporary ban causes so much outrage , yet bombing the crap out of them berly causes a stir.
That's my point PM about the King of the Cucks Chuck Schumer.

He cries about a few people from the Middle east not being allowed in to the US yet no tears for when the US bombs the crap out of the region.

Same with the argument about the ban being a recruitment policy for terrorists. And what, the bombing the crap out of them didn't produce any?

The hypocrisy is off the charts.
Road To Wisdom? To err and err and err again, but less and less and less...
Golden shower has the power. Is there a batty shower as Putin has turned batty.
Not one national of any of the banned 7 countries has been responsible for a homeland terrorist attack involving loss of American lives since 2001.

Another Redneck Popularity Policy Scam.
Not one of the 6.7 billion people not American has the right to enter w/o invitation. Or to stay longer than agreed to.
Quoting cliffedwards
Oh yes @mingery.. lest lance this TOXIC BOIL!
I sure as hell dont agree with all you post mate..
But I respect your opinions.
I respect your depth of thinking that shows you an educated man.
When you are at your most controversial.. and I most disagree, I can still see the philosophical under -pinning to even your most apparently daft posts.
I cannot extend that respect to many others here.
Either when I agree or disagree with their sentiments.

The problem here, as in many aspect of business.. was summed up by Mark Twains advise over 100...
Thanks.
You would think that forex should attract bright individuals who can think for themselves. then you realize this is just "retail" forex. The bar is rather low ...
Quoting cliffedwards
Not one national of any of the banned 7 countries has been responsible for a homeland terrorist attack involving loss of American lives since 2001.

Another Redneck Popularity Policy Scam.
At the end of the day they were all MUSLIMS. How do you know that their parents werent immigrants from any of the 7 countries?
Native Americans dont want white men to be in their land, why dont all white people leave America? Instead whites celebrate thanks giving which is a celebration of rape and murder on native American.
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Quoting Sniper2000
At the end of the day they were all MUSLIMS. How do you know that their parents werent immigrants from any of the 7 countries?

better.. let me tell you countries whos citizens HAVE murdered thousands of US citizens in 9/11 and since??

Saudia Arabia / Egypt/UAE/ Pakistan/

And Countries with whom Donald Trump has investments?
Oh Gosh.. the same?

Coincidence
ROFL...
Quoting Mingary
Thanks.
You would think that forex should attract bright individuals who can think for themselves. then you realize this is just "retail" forex. The bar is rather low ...
Yes, and YOUR approach to dealing with the Islamic "disease" as you put it, posted here in FF, fits well below that bar you hypocrite.
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting cliffedwards
Not one national of any of the banned 7 countries has been responsible for a homeland terrorist attack involving loss of American lives since 2001.

Another Redneck Popularity Policy Scam.
Oh you mean Obamas' 7 seven countries? yeeeaahh, ain't that strange
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Ill-b-back
Oh you mean Obamas' 7 seven countries? yeeeaahh, ain't that strange
I dont recall Obama issuing a travel ban on 7 countries?
When did that happen?
Quoting cliffedwards
I dont recall Obama issuing a travel ban on 7 countries?
When did that happen?
Nope, but they were "countries of concern" under Obama.
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Sniper2000
At the end of the day they were all MUSLIMS. How do you know that their parents werent immigrants from any of the 7 countries?
In the San Bernardino incident, one of the perpetrators was from Pakistan which is also being considered for inclusion on the banned list. Since 2001 there have been 580 convictions for terrorism in the USA, 380 of which were foreign born (62 Pakistan, 28 Lebanon, 22 Palestinian, 21 Somalia, 20 Yemen, 19 Iraq, 16 Jordan, 17 Egypt 10 Afghanistan)
Quoting Devauxt
In the San Bernardino incident, one of the perpetrators was from Pakistan which is also being considered for inclusion on the banned list. Since 2001 there have been 580 convictions for terrorism in the USA, 380 of which were foreign born (62 Pakistan, 28 Lebanon, 22 Palestinian, 21 Somalia, 20 Yemen, 19 Iraq, 16 Jordan, 17 Egypt 10 Afghanistan)
Interesting. The trouble is everyone around the world are trying to force their beliefs ( I wont say religion) on to everyone else. I dont mind people have different beliefs but when they start forcing it upon me or how I live then thats when I get pissed. Trouble is its been going on since the dot and nothing has changed. People have been so brain washed by Politicians and Do Gooders that all cultures and beliefs can live in harmony. That maybe so until one group starts to force their beliefs on to everyone else. Thats when the "shit hits the fan" and people start to fight back like whats going on in USA and Britain.
Quoting Ill-b-back
Nope, but they were "countries of concern" under Obama.
The "seven countries" targeted by President Trump's 27 January 2017 executive order pertaining to immigration were not mentioned by name and instead originated with "countr[ies] or area[s] of concern" first identified in the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 (expanded to all seven countries "of concern" in February 2016). source Fact Check
Quoting goldfinger
Native Americans dont want white men to be in their land, why dont all white people leave America? Instead whites celebrate thanks giving which is a celebration of rape and murder on native American.
very strong point your really adding to the conversation
Quoting goldfinger
Native Americans dont want white men to be in their land, why dont all white people leave America? Instead whites celebrate thanks giving which is a celebration of rape and murder on native American.
Which "Native American" There were /are many different tribes. Who was there first?
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Quoting Sniper2000
The "seven countries" targeted by President Trump's 27 January 2017 executive order pertaining to immigration were not mentioned by name and instead originated with "countr[ies] or area[s] of concern" first identified in the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 (expanded to all seven countries "of concern" in February 2016). source Fact Check
refreshing to read some facts on the matter instead of the presumptuous rhetoric which is also prevalent in the mainsteam media headlines (at least we know where they get their views from lol).
Reminds me of the "America First" headline being touted as a foundation for yet more presumptuous rehetoric that UK will get screwed by their US trade deal.
Of course, they won't use Trumps comment in its' entirety but will prefer to omit certain other important aspects of his statement.
He is on record as saying;

"I will be tough but I will be fair. I will put America First just as I would expect other countries to put their interests first".

This represents nothing more than the reality faced by any 2 parties when they come together to negotiate. But in classic convenient style, some wish to quote his campaign slogan(in it's most simplistic form) and apply it as a blanket argument to promote their own view.

They also conveniently ignore context. A situation where America is clearly getting screwed by what Trump calls shitty deals with China and mexico.

When we consider his "America First" policy in its' more complete form above, rather than the edited version conveniently promoted CNN style, and couple this with the multi billion dollar trade deficit hole America is in, its' not hard to imagine all Trump wants to do is balance the ledger. Help America straighten up again after being bent over the trade deficit barrel and taking it up the clacker for long enough.

And there is certainly nothing in what he has said (again when viewed in its' unedited form) that suggests new trading partners such as the UK are going to have to bend over and take one courtesy of the 1 way Trade Trump Train fantasy.....

It seems to me, some are adopting the simplistic, convenient and factually deficient tactics of "The Mob" they so publicly abhor....
Come with me if you want to live....
look who is talking.
Quoting goldfinger
Native Americans dont want white men to be in their land, why dont all white people leave America? Instead whites celebrate thanks giving which is a celebration of rape and murder on native American.
Since that time, most nations have learned that rape and murder are unacceptable in civilised society, whereas the those coming from the banned countries follow teachings which not only include rape and murder but also bring other little cultural ditties such as religious intolerance, hate preaching, child marriages, marriage between close relations, FGM, forced marriages, male female segregation, gay hatred, subjugation of women, to name but a few.
let's just make the immigrant to uphold the US law above their religious law. signed and put a list what law from their religion that is banned.
it would be just like to ask them to abandon their religion.
this could be legal, and really make sense.
Guys,
One question.
Think deep.......

What's the REAL purpose of this ban??? Excluding Saudi Arabia...

Why?? What's Trump's agenda????
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
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Quoting Not-KPMG
Guys,
One question.
Think deep.......

What's the REAL purpose of this ban??? Excluding Saudi Arabia...

Why?? What's Trump's agenda????
Maybe the information required for vetting is more readily available and that the there is a good two way flow of terrorism related intelligence between Saudi and the USA
Quoting Not-KPMG
Guys,
One question.
Think deep.......
What's the REAL purpose of this ban??? Excluding Saudi Arabia...
Why?? What's Trump's agenda????
We all know the answer to that. Not so smart Giuliani even gave answer on television. A ban because of religion is against US law and then he is creative and find other ways to do it. That Saudi Arabia is not included I think is a calculation between ideologi and money for Trump and for now money weighted more.
Trading in the shadow of SM
Quoting Not-KPMG
Guys,
One question.
Think deep.......
What's the REAL purpose of this ban??? Excluding Saudi Arabia...
Why?? What's Trump's agenda????
He likes them very much..

August 21 2015:
Speech in Alabama
"Saudi Arabia? I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much."
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suggestion to ff: seeing that some commentators make multiple quotes which misrepresents the total number of quotes, do this: let's say Devauxt makes 20 quotes, then list them as 22, 22.1, 22.2, 22.3, 22.4 .....etc.. then only count all 22.xyz quotes as one quote. in most democracies a voter can only vote once in the same election. multiple quotes by one or more commentators distorts the number of comments.

This would also be in line with the Pareto Principle or 80/20 rule where 20% of the commentators make 80% of the quoutes.
Quoting Not-KPMG
Guys,
One question.
Think deep.......

What's the REAL purpose of this ban??? Excluding Saudi Arabia...

Why?? What's Trump's agenda????
You really need to ask Obama.
It's the 7 countries he listed as "countries of concern" under the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 that Trump focused on for his temporary travel ban. In addition, the 7 countries were not named by Trump but are on the list because of Obamas' policy with Department of Homeland Security focusing on these "countries of concern" about 2 years before Trump came into office.

But let's not let any details get in the way of a nice convenient story eh...
Come with me if you want to live....
Islam is not just a religion, Islam is also the politics in one. It is clear.
BUT -stop (ban) the refugees and punish those people who (our guilt too ) lost their homes, families - in general conditions of life, and on the other hand do not punish war criminals Bush Junior, Tony Blair and the rest of the scum (who cooked all that junk up) - it's really typically Western hypocrisy. Muslims will never forgive us that shame.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
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Quoting Not-KPMG
Guys,
One question.
Think deep.......

What's the REAL purpose of this ban??? Excluding Saudi Arabia...

Why?? What's Trump's agenda????
#214. What is the real purpose of the gates and doors in your house? Don't tell me they are to block mosquitoes or wind.

Trump keeps his promise. To make America safe.

I can only say this on FF unless I will be suspended.
Quoting Ill-b-back
You really need to ask Obama.
It's the 7 countries he listed as "countries of concern" under the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 that Trump focused on for his temporary travel ban. In addition, the 7 countries were not named by Trump but are on the list because of Obamas' policy with Department of Homeland Security focusing on these "countries of concern" about 2 years before Trump came into office.
But let's not let any details get in the way of a nice convenient story eh...
What Obama did was not a ban.


Fact-Check:
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/trumps-faulty-refugee-policy-comparison/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ap-fact-check-trump-claims-travel-ban-misleading-45160554
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jan/30/donald-trump/why-comparing-trumps-and-obamas-immigration-restri/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/30/fact-check-trump-refugee-policy-comparison-obama/97247418/
http://news.sky.com/story/donald-trumps-travel-ban-fact-checked-how-the-claims-measure-up-10749909
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2017/01/30/fact-check-travel-ban-rrump/97269126/

But let's not let THAT get in the way of a nice convenient Alt-Fact eh
Quoting Devauxt
Maybe the information required for vetting is more readily available and that the there is a good two way flow of terrorism related intelligence between Saudi and the USA
According to Farage, the temporary banning list, was a list of countries created by the Obama administration. Whether or not that is true though I have no idea.

Edit ^ will read those shortly cliff
Quoting SickOfScam
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BUT -stop (ban) the refugees and punish those people who (our guilt too ) lost their homes, families - in general conditions of life, and on the other hand do not punish war criminals Bush Junior, Tony Blair and the rest of the scum (who cooked all that junk up) - it's really typically Western hypocrisy.
I think you are long on Gold XAU to 2000.
Quoting cliffedwards
What Obama did was not a ban.


Fact-Check:
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/tru...cy-comparison/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...ading-45160554
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ration-restri/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...bama/97247418/
http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tru...re-up-10749909
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...rump/97269126/

But...
Yes, you have already pointed that out previously and I have already replied.

But let's go over it just 1 more time shall we.
I have never said Obama listed a travel ban.

The 7 countries were listed as "Countries of concern" under the Obama administration within the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015.
It is the countries on Obamas' "Countries of Concern" list that Trump has targeted for his temporary travel ban.

These are the facts.

The presumptions being made and promoted in here are that Trump didn't target other more wealthy Muslim countries (such as those involved in September 11) because he has business interests in those wealthier countries.

He has business interests in many wealthier countries.
He Does NOT have business interests in the 7 listed countries because, well, what private entrepreneur would??

Hence my post " you really need to ask Obama".
Why?
Why didn't Obama list these other wealthier countries involved in the Sept 11 attacks etc within his "Countries of concern" of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015.
Did he have a conflict of interest also?

Or is there something else in play here?

Something just a little more complex than your simplistic/convenient argument
Come with me if you want to live....
And I think you're short - in every way.

Quoting frx_trader
I think you are long on Gold XAU to 2000.
Quoting frx_trader
I can only say this on FF unless I will be suspended.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting Ill-b-back
These are the facts.
Look mate I have the facts.
Ive checked the facts.
Ive published my sources.
Dont need your ramblings.
/EndOF
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Quoting cliffedwards
Look mate I have the facts.
Ive checked the facts.
Ive published my sources.
Dont need your ramblings.
/EndOF
lol, wow, what a lame way to end the discussion Cliff.
You are a such a gutless coward.
My ramblings?? lol...
You're a clown...

Your fact checks address the issue of comparing Trumps policy to Obamas.
I'm clearly not talking about how similar the 2 are. I am addressing the shallow presumptions made about why the 7 countries are on the travel ban list and why other countries are not.
But you "neglected" to address any of my points made on this issue.
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting SickOfScam
And I think you're short - in every way.

This is a much better argument than your rambling about Western Hypocrisy and Bush. BTW I am not a Bush fan and not to vote him in any chance.
If we want that someone learn something from us - we must first clean up our own sh!t.

Quoting frx_trader
This is a much better argument than your rambling about Western Hypocrisy and Bush. BTW I am not a Bush fan and not to vote him in any chance.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting SickOfScam
If we want that someone learn something from us- we must first clean up our own sh!t.
Happy trading, mate. BTW, try to go outside and learn some more. GL on your trading.
You too, see you around.
Quoting frx_trader
Happy trading, mate
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
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Quoting Ill-b-back
Yes, and YOUR approach to dealing with the Islamic "disease" as you put it, posted here in FF, fits well below that bar you hypocrite.
It's a disease ?
Aren't all religions a disease of the mind?

I will write in "Trumpish" so even you will understand. You can pretend you are being addressed by Your Glorious Leader.

"
(Cult of) Islamism, bad
Cult of Trump, bad
"

The Great Leader has spoken.
Now go out in the street and kick some liberals ass. (:
Quoting Mingary
It's a disease ?
Aren't all religions a disease of the mind?

I will write in "Trumpish" so even you will understand

(Cult of) Islamism, bad
Cult of Trump, bad
It is a shame that you equate Trump followers with the followers of Islam.

Those who voted for Trump are proud of their country and the ideals and laws on which the the country is based, whereas the other is an authoritarian sect where large numbers of its followers believe in murder, rape, religious intolerance, hate preaching, child marriages, marriage between close relations, FGM, forced marriages, male female segregation, gay hatred, subjugation of women.

I can't see the similarity myself. Maybe you could others in here understand
Quoting Devauxt
It is a shame that you equate Trump followers with the followers of Islam.

...I can't see the similarity myself. Maybe you could others in here understand
Plenty of hate for gays (curing ffs!), coercive marriage, rape, violence, abuse, hate preaching, female subjugation in CHRISTIAN families too, who'd have thunk it?
Quoting Devauxt
It is a shame that you equate Trump followers with the followers of Islam.

Those who voted for Trump are proud of their country and the ideals and laws on which the the country is based, whereas the other is an authoritarian sect where large numbers of its followers believe in murder, rape, religious intolerance, hate preaching, child marriages, marriage between close relations, FGM, forced marriages, male female segregation, gay hatred, subjugation of women.

I can't see the similarity myself. Maybe you could others in here understand
I choose neither and I reject both.
For the "true trump believer" such as yourself, to be against Trump is to be pro-islam.
In that respect, they are similar. The difference is only some order of magnitude.. but the mind of the "true believer of all creed" only needs to be pushed just a little to sink into total aberration.
Liberal jackasses saying Trump's ban will help create 'terrorists' because they will now view the US as being anti-Islam.

Let me get this right.

The US bombs, drones and assassinates people in the Middle east at will for the last decade and more but that doesn't create terrorists.

Yet as soon as they stop a few nutjobs coming into the US that's the spark that's needed for 10,001 of them to strap on their suicide vests.

What a joke.

Liberals have zero credibility with the lame and pathetic arguments.
Road To Wisdom? To err and err and err again, but less and less and less...
Quoting Mingary
I choose neither and I reject both.
For the "true trump believer" such as yourself, to be against Trump is to be pro-islam.
In that respect, they are similar. The difference is only some order of magnitude.. but the mind of the "true believer of all creed" only needs to be pushed just a little to sink into total aberration.
A delusional response as usual. What element of what I said is not true? I challenge to identify one thing that is not true
Quoting Mingary
It's a disease ?
Aren't all religions a disease of the mind?

I will write in "Trumpish" so even you will understand. You can pretend you are being addressed by Your Glorious Leader.

"
(Cult of) Islamism, bad
Cult of Trump, bad
"

The Great Leader has spoken.
Now go out in the street and kick some liberals ass. (:
I'll mention it once more for you as you seem a little slow on the uptake.
I am Australian, he is not my leader.

I've never heard of "cult of Trump" before. Another one of your "inventions".

I call into question your published approach to dealing with the spread of Islam, and this is your response?

You're embarrassing yourself.
Come with me if you want to live....
Lets experiment with this logic..
Those who are Muslims (1.5 Billion people) are proud of their Faith and the ideals and laws on which the that Faith is based is based, whereas the other are a reactionary populist sect where large numbers of its followers believe in racial and religious intolerance, xenophobia, hate preaching, gay hatred, objectification/subjugation of women, extreme nationalism and sectarianism.

Quote: "What element of what I said is not true? I challenge to identify one thing that is not true."

Debate. ROFL.
Before you support Trump just remember that the stick that is used to throw away a snail is also thrown away.
100% KENYAN.
All radicals on this world using the same rhetoric. They all defend and protect "someone or something", but in fact behind these "big" words hide themselves most ordinary criminals.

Quoting UnBearybull
Plenty of hate for gays (curing ffs!), coercive marriage, rape, violence, abuse, hate preaching, female subjugation in CHRISTIAN families too, who'd have thunk it?
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting Mingary
I choose neither and I reject both.
For the "true trump believer" such as yourself, to be against Trump is to be pro-islam.
In that respect, they are similar. The difference is only some order of magnitude.. but the mind of the "true believer of all creed" only needs to be pushed just a little to sink into total aberration.
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Quoting cliffedwards
Lets experiment with this logic..
Those who are Muslims (1.5 Billion people) are proud of their Faith and the ideals and laws on which the that Faith is based is based, whereas the other are a reactionary populist sect where large numbers of its followers believe in racial and religious intolerance, xenophobia, hate preaching, gay hatred, objectification/subjugation of women, extreme nationalism and sectarianism.

Quote: "What element of what I said is not true? I challenge to identify one thing that is not true."

Debate. ROFL.

Are you seriously implying that Muslims aren't or can't be:

"racial and religious intolerance";
"xenophobia";
"hate preaching";
"gay hatred; objectification/subjugation of women";
"extreme nationalism and sectarianism".

WAT? LMAO


you are such a HYPOCRITE. This MUST be satire.

No way you can be serious with that comment.
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